Men in Khaki

Hamidm Sahib:

Please go easy on Salim sahib, and continue to support him. He and Yasser stand out at Chowk. Salim was only correcting the fundoo Urstruly`s attempt to misinform chowkies. He, like Yasser, has tendency to let emotions take control.

#55 Zeemax {``Punjab alone is 2/3rd of the population. All the 3 other provinces plus the Northern Areas, FATA and AJK combined are 1/3.
Therefore, Punjab will always set the direction, and it is fair. Punjab is 2/3rd Pakistan, and no one should crib about it.``}

Mr. Zeemax,
Surely you exaggerate with that 2/3 ratio. Regardless, in 1971, Punjab was much less than 1/2 the population, now you say it is 2/3. At the rate you PPPs have been behaving, you will soon be 100% of the population. Good luck, sir.

#47 by hamidm2 on March 17, 2007 6:29am PT
{``Re: # 44
salim mian,
...... either way, you have lost it ! ........ i can`t believe that you are now siding with the mohajir military dictator because you think the ppps are against him ......... ``}

Hamidum Sahib,
I am siding with the ``Mohajir military dictator`` ONLY because he put an end to the massacre of Mohajirs in Karachi at the hands of the PPP Rangers. He also rid Pakistan of the corrupt and power-hungry yet ``democratically-elected`` ex-PM PPP Nawaz Sharif who has Mohajir blood on his hands. I am glad to learn about your lip-service to the so-called Biharis - the loyal Pakis ``stranded`` in BD. May Allah put some caffeine in your intoxicating refreshments.

Re: # 67

Mohajirs had it coming. Being a mohajir myself, I remember the slogans MQM used to have spray painted all over Karachi ``Crush the corrupt Pakistan Army``. They were the warlords before the operation started.

With their slogan of SOS (security ourSelves) they have provided Klashinkovs to every kid. With their unit incharges, sector incharge they were involved in target killing. If Altaf Hussain comes back, he will be killed by a mohajir (most probably some father, mother, brother or sister of some MQM worker who was sacrificed by Altaf Hussain).

On being power hungry, nobody is more power hungry than Altaf Hussain. Of all the ethnic communities in Pakistan, only Altaf Hussain is capable of killing his own party men i.e., Azeem Ahmed Tariq or Khalid Bin Waleed. They were behind the murder of Hakeem Saeed and would have even killed Edhi to achieve some political mileage.

#68, Dear Mr. Vanguad,
The sins of Altaf Hussain or Amir Khan should not be used to justify the killing, torture, and looting of Mohajirs in their own homes in Karachi and Hyderabad. If a terrorist group kills people for political leverage, it is still not right for the security forces of a nation to kill innocent citizens who may belong to the same ethnic/linguistic group as the miscreants. The good thing about Mushy is that he put an end to the massacres and the occupation of Karachi. If he goes, I am worried about more bloodshed by the PPP Rangers.

#68, vanguard {``Mohajirs had it coming``}

Mr. Vanguard,
Using your logic, my friend, maybe the Muslims of the world had it coming. 100% of the 9/11 WTC and Pentagon mass murderers and terrorists were Muslim. 100% of the Madrid train station killers were Muslim. 100% of the London subway bombings were Muslim. 100% of the attackers of the Indian parliament and various Kashmiri terrorists were Muslim. The plot against the US, resulting in almost 3,000 innocent deaths, was hatched, planned, and executed by Al Kayda leaders, who were in Afghanistan/Pakistan and are still being sheltered in the remote caves of Pakistan.

#65 by anil on March 17, 2007 12:28pm PT
{``Hamidm Sahib:

Please go easy on Salim sahib, and continue to support him. He and Yasser stand out at Chowk. Salim was only correcting the fundoo Urstruly`s attempt to misinform chowkies.``}

Anil Bhai,
Thank you for noticing and explaining my sense of outrage at Maulana Urstruly`s defamation of a public figure. Our steamed Hamidum Sahib will buy Urstruly a drink but will not spank him for lying in public - it`s a PPP thing.

Honestly, as an insignificant Mohajir and a hated traitor, I don`t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with the honorable future PM of Pakistani Punjab. :)

Ally Sahib #51 {``in my family at least my cousins dont speak Urdu i.. i feel there seems to be bit of a Punjabi renaissance, ...slowly Urdu will lose its prominence in Punjab as English takes over... ``}

Ally Sahib,
Very few of us Mohajirs are Urdu missionaries. We don`t care if you switch to Serbo-Croat or Swahili as your mother tongue. :)

Judging from the standard of PPP usage of English on Chowk, we can safely assume that Lahore will not be confused for London anytime soon. :)

Re: # 71

salim mian,

``Maulana Urstruly`s defamation of a public figure`` ........ i am sorry, now who did he defame ?.......... i must have missed it ........ but you really shouldn`t pay too much attention to urstruly - he is a wretched soul who hates everyone ......

Salim

That reply was meant for Hamid Sahib anywayus, I`m not really bothered what you think, Urdu is no longer just your language it is the national language and therefore everyone in the country will know some of it at least to get by... but as English is being used more people will know Urdu but not give it as much importance... this is happening all over Pakistan and India in those areas where Urdu/Hindi isn`t the native language for ppl... i dont associate Urdu with mohajirs for us its simply a link language that links the various ppl together... what you think or dont think is of no concern to me or most other ppl...

Ally #74 {``what you think or dont think is of no concern to me or most other ppl...``}

Ally,
Likewise - now we are getting somewhere. :) Most of us Mohajirs just want to be free from oppression. You go your way, we`ll go ours. Peace be unto you. :) You pull your Army out of Karachi and we will ask Mushy to come home. :)

#73 by hamidm2 on March 17, 2007 1:33pm PT
{``Re: # 71
salim mian,
``Maulana Urstruly`s defamation of a public figure`` ........ i am sorry, now who did he defame ?.......... i must have missed it ........ but you really shouldn`t pay too much attention to urstruly - he is a wretched soul who hates everyone ......``}

Hamidum Sahib,
Maulana Urstruly swore that Mrs. Sehba Musharraf is a ``Mirzaee.`` This is an utter lie and deliberate defamation against the First Lady of Pakistan. Had it been true, I would have defended her right to practice the faith of her choice.

I pay a lot of attention to Maulana Urstruly - for very good reason. While I am not at all frightened of the so-called `liberal`` PPPs such as Zeemax, Manto Bhai, and Chacha Buttees, Maulana Urstruly and his type are of significant concern - they have even managed to entice some stupid Mohajirs to their side. The ``liberal`` elite among the PPPs are a known group of Mohajir-haters that all of us recognize and none of us trusts.

Re: # 74

...... have you heard the one about sir arthur, his ahle-zaban knight and the chastity belt ?

Regarding #77 itself regarding #74,
...and Sir Lancelot (an ALLY of King Arthur) was speechless. :)

Dear Interactors,

Does anyone think that this thing with the judiciary is actually going to make a real difference to the way power is shared in Pakistan or is it just another mini-replay of what we have seen countless times before?

It is a genuine question, serious answers only, please!

My own guess is ``no`` - but my knowledge is less expansive than every other chowkie here!

Revolt is brewing in the ranks of Pak army, 6 corps commanders have expressed discontent with the Pervez Musharraf. It is also reported that Tariq Aziz orchestrated the attack on Geo news:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/mar/17pakcj.htm