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A Nation Reborn

Shaheryar Akbar March 20, 2007

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#54 Posted by tahmed32 on March 22, 2007 7:00:17 pm
#53 ab Musharraf ko Bhagwan hee sahih raah dekhaay ga!! Amen. :-)
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#60 Posted by subhashjoshi on March 23, 2007 7:44:48 pm
Re: # 54 tahmed

You think he is going to stick his neck out? He must realize how much is his chance of becoming a proper CJ (not acting one), even with his ``special`` qualifications, he surely must realize his place under the sun.
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#53 Posted by nasah on March 22, 2007 4:52:28 pm
Maulana Samiulloo can go and jump in the nearest madarassa`s septic tank -- my prayer to Bhagwan is that defend YOUR independence.

Bhagwan -- you are MIGHTIER than a tin horn Dictator – don’t be afraid -- reinstate the CJ -- reference the DJ -- that Dictator Joker -- on two counts:

One) for illegal confinement of the Highest Judge of the country for 5 hours against his will -- in the Army House of ill Repute – Two) for hijacking the Highest Court of the country in broad day light at lathi point.

Ban him from ever stepping within the 200 feet of the Presidential Palace.
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#52 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 10:18:27 am
Shri Bag One Dash is from Sind (T)

Early life
Rana Bhagwandas was born on December 20, 1942 into a Hindu family in Sindh. He studied law and received a Masters degree in Islamic studies. He joined the bar in 1965 and after two years of practising law, joined the Pakistani Judicial System in 1967. Later, he became a sessions judge, and subsequently, a judge of the Sindh High Court. He is not a fan of cricket, but remains a supporter of the Pakistan cricket team.


Judicial career
Rana Bhagwandas was promoted to the Sindh High Court in 1994. In 1999, his appointment to the superior judiciary was challenged by a constitutional petition (no. 1069/1999) against the Government of Pakistan and Judge Bhagwandas. The petition demanded that the judicial bench consisting of Judge Bhagwandas should be declared unconstitutional because of Bhagwandas` religion, claiming that only Muslims can be appointed to the superior judiciary. The petition was rejected, and the petitioner was condemned by other judges of the high court and by a significant number of lawyers.

In 2000, he joined the Supreme Court of Pakistan after taking an oath of allegiance to Musharraf`s administration. Justice Bhagwandas took strong note of a kidnapping case involving a girl in NWFP forced to be a prostitute for four years. A believer in the sanctity of the Constitution of Pakistan and its legal system, Bhagwandas maintains that the law is equal for all religious communities in Pakistan. While staunchly defending Pakistan`s society and legal system against charges of bias and suppression of minorities, Bhagwandas is also a vocal opponent of the infamous practice of honour killings of women in the provincial rural areas.

For the 2006-2007 judicial year, Justice Bhagwandas is a member of the second bench of justices which also is home to Justice Nasir ul-Mulk and Justice Syed Jamshed Ali.

Chief justice
Justice Bhagwandas has served as acting Chief Justice twice - first in 2005 while Chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry was on a ten day trip to the People`s Republic of China and then again in December 2006, when the latter was on a Haj pilgrimage. He was the first Hindu and the second non-Muslim (after A. R. Cornelius) to serve in this post. On February 8, 2005 Chief Justice Rana Bhagwandas was honoured with ``Siropa`` (robe of honour) during his maiden visit to Harimandir Sahib in Amritsar, India. He was on a private visit to Amritsar, Ropar and Chandigarh with Justice Khalil-ur Rehman Ramdev, another judge of the Pakistan Supreme Court and his wife. It is not clear if Bhagwandas will actually succeed Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry though; Bhagwandas is slated to retire in December 2007, after attaining the age of 65, while Chaudhry`s retirement is slated for 2013.

On December 28, 2006 Bhagwandas became acting judge again while the Chief Justice Chaudhury was on hajj.

Recent Controversy
On March 9, 2007, Pakistan President General Pervez Musharraf declared Chief Justice Chaudhary ``non-functional`` and forwarded a reference against him to the Supreme Judicial Council (SJC) of Pakistan. While Justice Bhagwandas should have taken his place as Acting Chief Justice, his whereabouts remain untraceable at the moment. On March 15, 2007 a petition was filed in the Supreme Court urging the Pakistan Government to declare his whereabouts. There have been unconfirmed reports that he is being held incommunicado by the Government or is in the ``protective`` custody of Pakistan`s intelligence agencies. His brother, Sri Chand, in Pakistan says that Bhagwandas went on a visit to India and since then the family has not heard from him. It has since been learnt (March 20) that he is meditating in the Indian city of Lucknow, and is due to return to Pakistan on March 23. He is aware of events transpiring in Pakistan.


Quotes
``The law is equal for everyone. It provides for equal treatment and equal protection.``

Courtesy Wikipedia
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#51 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 9:53:44 am
#46 {``PPPP activists chant anti-Musharraf slogans during a demonstration in Islamabad. AFP``}

Too many pee pees in #46. I thought that Paki Punju Paindoo needed only 3 Pees. Is the additional one for Perverted? Persecutors? Putrid? Pusillanimous?
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#50 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 9:41:41 am
Ali Jihadi complained on Unplugged about how Ghauris look.

Ali Jihadi,
Most Ghauris look like the picture you posted because of this guy:

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#49 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 9:31:33 am
#364 Imperio from the ``Pakistan - rude, screwed, and tattooed`` thread {``Punjab is eating Pakistan and propagating to be the saviour of Pakistan. I m afraid you will not be succeeded this time.

I also request my fellow young Muhajirs to fight for our rights and reject this terrorist MQM party. Our forefathers have done great mistakes by creating Pakistan and we have already suffered a lot. Now its time to only think for ourselves.``}

Imperio Sahib,
Thank you for your frank and resolute remarks. I agree with you - even about not following MQM, Altaf Payee, Mushy, or anyone else blindly. We need to think for ourselves, help our people out of poverty and discrimination. Mohajirs have plenty of resources - especially overseas. Many Mohajirs are working actively and donating generously for the ``unofficial`` repatriation of ``stranded`` Pakis in BD - commonly referred to as ``Biharis`` by the Punjaibis as a form of collective insult. We will succeed Inshallah. To hell with Paki Punjab. All other people in Pakistan (Pathans, Baluchis, Sindhis, Kashmiris, Gilgit Baltistanis, Mohajirs, and even Saraikis) want an end to Paki Punju Paindoo domination.
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#48 Posted by TOLKININ on March 22, 2007 9:00:33 am

#43 by kamath on March 22, 2007 7:49am PT
Re: # 36

Mr: tolkinin : ``..Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.....``

Justice Das went to an Ashram to meditate and take divine guidance from a Hindu god. Let us see if the directions from an infidel god makes any difference in the execution of his duties.! Let us wait and see!

Kamath
.. another infidel...


Bagwan .hindu, kafir are just names not every body calls them...its the hindutva politics not only recemtly but 60 yers ago which rsulted in dividing India ..Alas
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#47 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 8:55:39 am
#36 tolkinin {``A leader of a faction of the Jamaat Uleman Islami, Maulana Sami-ul-Haq, criticised the move to make Das the acting chief justice. A non-Muslim cannot head the supreme court in an Islamic country as a non-Muslim cannot head the government, Haq said.
...Das is the only one among the supreme court judges who has a masters degree in Islamic law. ``}

Tolkinin,
Shri Bag One Dash ki Jai! :)
In my opinion, he is well-qualified to be CJ or even President. The only thing I have against Shri Bag One Dash is his meaningless education in Islamic Law - the term itself is an oxymoron. :)

As to my response to Maulana Sammy Owl Hack, I can only say:
``I will agree with you about a non-Muslim not being able to hold the highest offices ONLY if you are prepared to declared all Paki Punju Paindoos as non-Muslims - not just the Ahmedi ones.``

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#46 Posted by tahmed32 on March 22, 2007 8:54:52 am


L) Lawyers disperse after police fired teargas shells during a demonstration against the suspension of Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry in Quetta on Wednesday. (R) PPPP activists chant anti-Musharraf slogans during a demonstration in Islamabad. AFP
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#45 Posted by Urstruly on March 22, 2007 8:17:46 am


I am not too happy with Pakistani media and martial law government`s propaganda machinery projecting Justice Bhagwan Das as some kind of paragon of virtue and uprightness. Let us not forget that he is one of the judges who ``legitimized` this dictators coup d`etat and desecration of the Constitution. So instead of developing a personality cult for Bhagwan Das or even Justice Iftekhar, we must see how the judicial council acts out instead. The criterion for our judgement is that Justice Iftekhar is right and dictator is wrong. Any other outcome of this so-called judicial inquiry is unacceptable and travesty of justice.

It should be a point of interest to the readers here that, two of the judges in the judicial council panel are also the signatories of the reference against Justice Chowdery which should render them disqualified to sit on the panel. A petitioner cannot be a judge; it is a simple rule.

Also it must be noted that Judicial council has postponed CJ`s trial until first week of March. Martial Law propaganda machinery is spreading this disinformation that it was done at the request of CJ and his lawyer. Well his lawyer, Itezaz Ehsan has categorically denied this propaganda yesterday on TV.
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#44 Posted by nasah on March 22, 2007 8:11:43 am
BaRRay Abba ka Hukmnama -- for betay Musharraf kay liye -- don`t wear the uniform over your sherwani, son -- give it back to the army -- you look ridiculous.

``US expects Musharraf to leave army chief job - underlines restraint, transparency in CJ case Our Correspondent

WASHINGTON: The Bush administration, underlining extreme restraint in dealing with the aftermath of expects of the chief justice’s suspension, has said it expects President Gen. Pervez Musharraf will quit as army chief in line with his pledges. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the Pakistani leader had held out some assurances in this regard.

“He has made certain commitments —- and we think it’s important that he follow through on those commitments.”

Addressing a press briefing here on Tuesday, McCormack urged extreme restraint in dealing with the aftermath of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry’s suspension and maximum transparency in a decision on the presidential reference. (FP)

`presidential reference` my foot.


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#42 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 7:29:47 am
#38, Samar1982 {``but wait, you will find women killing cricketers and film-stars and ahmadias burning sunni/shiya mosques, children killing their paedophile fathers, etc. etc. ``}

Biasey Sahib,
I see your point, but I don`t necessarily share your pessimism. If only those who are prone to supremacy through greed and violence can be rehabilitated, there is hope for both countries. :)
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#41 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 22, 2007 7:27:29 am
#40 Nazarhayatkhan {`` Let the system (electoral process) throw up anyone - even a tree.
But he can not be all - the State can not live on one person`s whims - The system has to work. ``]

Khan Sahib,
I agree with you. It`s not the tree that worries me. It`s another bloodthirsty provincial racist like BeSharif or Benazir. As long as the electoral process and the ensuing results are peaceful, I am all for democracy. However, the brick throwing lawyers are not behaviing in too promising a manner. :(
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#40 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on March 22, 2007 6:04:55 am
Salim # 7

(The question to ask is what replaces Mushy in the future? Another two rounds of twiddle dee and twiddle dum will not do. )

No need to worry. Let the system (electoral process) throw up anyone - even a tree.

I liked Mush - he drank - cracked jokes - even enjoyed dirty jokes. He was human.

But he can not be all - the State can not live on one person`s whims - The system has to work.

NHk
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#39 Posted by bjkumar on March 22, 2007 4:20:13 am

#37 Tauheed sahib

[Bhagwan Paindabad]

Hey Bhagwan, yeh kya ho gaya!!

No need to worry, Tauheed sahib. Happy days are here again!

Bhagwan sab bhala karengey!

Of course, no pain – no gain!

(After all, the “pain” is the first part of that “pain-da-bad”!) :)

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