Shaheryar Akbar March 20, 2007
#37 Posted by tahmed32 on March 21, 2007 9:28:10 pm
#36 I always knew that Allah/Bhagwan/God was watching over Pakistan. But I never thought Bhagwan would Personally fly into Pakistan on a jet airline to bring back law and order.
To borrow from Zeena:

Pakistan Zindabad!! Bhagwan Paindabad!!
To borrow from Zeena:

Pakistan Zindabad!! Bhagwan Paindabad!!
#36 Posted by TOLKININ on March 21, 2007 6:56:58 pm
judge jets into Pakistan debate
Justice Rana Bhagwan Das at Karachi airport on Wednesday. (AP)
Islamabad, March 21 (PTI): The Pakistan government’s decision to resolve the judiciary crisis by making Rana Bhagwan Das the acting chief justice has sparked a heated debate on whether a non-Muslim can head the apex court.
Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.
The judge had earlier held the acting chief justice’s post but this will be the first time he will take over after chief justice Iftikar Chaudhry was suspended. Das will head the five-judge Supreme Judicial Council currently hearing charges against Chaudhry.
As Das went for a long walk amid tight security soon after his arrival, moderates and hardliners crossed swords.
A leader of a faction of the Jamaat Uleman Islami, Maulana Sami-ul-Haq, criticised the move to make Das the acting chief justice. A non-Muslim cannot head the supreme court in an Islamic country as a non-Muslim cannot head the government, Haq said.
The Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a new outfit floated by Hafeez Saeed — the founder leader of the banned Lashkar-e-Toiba — echoed Haq. “It is against the Shariat to appoint Justice Rana Bhagwan Das the acting chief justice,” the organisation said in a statement issued by its leader Hafiz Adb-ur-Rahman Makki.
Makki said he held Das in the “highest esteem”, but asked: “How can a non-Muslim person take the oath of upholding Pakistan’s constitution, when the constitution is expressly bound to espouse the Quran and the Sunnah?”
While Pakistan’s constitution does not explicitly bar a non-Muslim from holding the post of the chief justice, some feel that the top judge also becomes the head of the Shariat court. Das is the only one among the supreme court judges who has a masters degree in Islamic law.
However, noted scholar and moderate Javed Ahmad Ghamdi contradicted both Haq and Makki, saying there were no restrictions or impediments in Islam to make a non-Muslim the head of the supreme court.
Veteran lawyer S.M. Zafar supported Ghamidi’s stand, saying there was no such bar in the constitution and cited the example of Cornelius, a Christian who was acting chief justice.
Justice Rana Bhagwan Das at Karachi airport on Wednesday. (AP)
Islamabad, March 21 (PTI): The Pakistan government’s decision to resolve the judiciary crisis by making Rana Bhagwan Das the acting chief justice has sparked a heated debate on whether a non-Muslim can head the apex court.
Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.
The judge had earlier held the acting chief justice’s post but this will be the first time he will take over after chief justice Iftikar Chaudhry was suspended. Das will head the five-judge Supreme Judicial Council currently hearing charges against Chaudhry.
As Das went for a long walk amid tight security soon after his arrival, moderates and hardliners crossed swords.
A leader of a faction of the Jamaat Uleman Islami, Maulana Sami-ul-Haq, criticised the move to make Das the acting chief justice. A non-Muslim cannot head the supreme court in an Islamic country as a non-Muslim cannot head the government, Haq said.
The Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a new outfit floated by Hafeez Saeed — the founder leader of the banned Lashkar-e-Toiba — echoed Haq. “It is against the Shariat to appoint Justice Rana Bhagwan Das the acting chief justice,” the organisation said in a statement issued by its leader Hafiz Adb-ur-Rahman Makki.
Makki said he held Das in the “highest esteem”, but asked: “How can a non-Muslim person take the oath of upholding Pakistan’s constitution, when the constitution is expressly bound to espouse the Quran and the Sunnah?”
While Pakistan’s constitution does not explicitly bar a non-Muslim from holding the post of the chief justice, some feel that the top judge also becomes the head of the Shariat court. Das is the only one among the supreme court judges who has a masters degree in Islamic law.
However, noted scholar and moderate Javed Ahmad Ghamdi contradicted both Haq and Makki, saying there were no restrictions or impediments in Islam to make a non-Muslim the head of the supreme court.
Veteran lawyer S.M. Zafar supported Ghamidi’s stand, saying there was no such bar in the constitution and cited the example of Cornelius, a Christian who was acting chief justice.
#43 Posted by Kamath on March 22, 2007 7:49:23 am
Re: # 36
Mr: tolkinin : ``..Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.....``
Justice Das went to an Ashram to meditate and take divine guidance from a Hindu god. Let us see if the directions from an infidel god makes any difference in the execution of his duties.! Let us wait and see!
Kamath
.. another infidel...
Mr: tolkinin : ``..Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.....``
Justice Das went to an Ashram to meditate and take divine guidance from a Hindu god. Let us see if the directions from an infidel god makes any difference in the execution of his duties.! Let us wait and see!
Kamath
.. another infidel...
#35 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 21, 2007 3:26:50 pm
#32 Urstruly {``I guess Zeemax has been Wasi-Zafared by Chowk staff already``}
Maulvi Sahib,
See what happens to people who spread malicious rumors about others and who relish death, destruction, and mutilation of the human body? :)
Let this be a lesson for your own noorani persona.
Maulvi Sahib,
See what happens to people who spread malicious rumors about others and who relish death, destruction, and mutilation of the human body? :)
Let this be a lesson for your own noorani persona.
#32 Posted by Urstruly on March 21, 2007 1:50:47 pm
I guess Zeemax has been Wasi-Zafared by Chowk staff already
#33 Posted by hamidm2 on March 21, 2007 2:06:40 pm
Re: # 32
urstruly,
.............i guess chowk-staff has finally decided to defend my daughters` honor .........or maybe uncle tahmed finally got through to him, or maybe he simply choked on his own bile ............
urstruly,
.............i guess chowk-staff has finally decided to defend my daughters` honor .........or maybe uncle tahmed finally got through to him, or maybe he simply choked on his own bile ............
#34 Posted by GT on March 21, 2007 2:46:08 pm
Re: # 33
hamidm:
Why do you make things so difficult? Come on now, is urstruly frick or frack or both?
hamidm:
Why do you make things so difficult? Come on now, is urstruly frick or frack or both?
#31 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 21, 2007 1:38:18 pm
#23, samar1982 {``In Pak the avatars of Allah are there on the streets killing each other, shiya killing sunnis, army killing separatists, militants killing civilians, mohajirs killing punjabis, ...``}
Samar Biasi Sahib,
Are you always this careless in your choice of subjects and objects? You could have also said ``Jews killing Nazis, Tutsis killing Hutus, Chinese killing Japs, Dalits killing upper-caste Hindus, ...``
Samar Biasi Sahib,
Are you always this careless in your choice of subjects and objects? You could have also said ``Jews killing Nazis, Tutsis killing Hutus, Chinese killing Japs, Dalits killing upper-caste Hindus, ...``
#38 Posted by samar1982 on March 22, 2007 12:38:51 am
Re: # 31, Salim Chouhan saheb,
Read between the lines, sir. What I meant was everyone in Pak killing the other. May be Mohajirs are not killing Panjus or shiyas not killing sunnis today, but wait, you will find women killing cricketers and film-stars and ahmadias burning sunni/shiya mosques, children killing their paedophile fathers, etc. etc.
And I am not much hopeful for India even. Here I am worried, someday, yes as you say, dalits and women would be killing rajputs and brahmins.
Samar
Read between the lines, sir. What I meant was everyone in Pak killing the other. May be Mohajirs are not killing Panjus or shiyas not killing sunnis today, but wait, you will find women killing cricketers and film-stars and ahmadias burning sunni/shiya mosques, children killing their paedophile fathers, etc. etc.
And I am not much hopeful for India even. Here I am worried, someday, yes as you say, dalits and women would be killing rajputs and brahmins.
Samar
#26 Posted by jang on March 21, 2007 11:33:35 am
anyone seen any effigies of the chief burnt so far? do you guys think i can sell black ribbons in pakistan similar to the support-our troops ribbons in dicating protest?
#24 Posted by Ally on March 21, 2007 11:09:05 am
I am glad to hear and see these things... thank God people are finally coming to the streets and showing their unhappiness in a more civil way as opposed to bombing and stuff... Like PMishra said people have an interest in society and want the civil institutions to become stronger, because now we realise the need of these strong institutions... all we have to do is look across the border and see the advantages of democracy and strongish institutions...
I`m happy that we can look across the border and compare our lot and that so many ppl in Pakistan are doing that... Mushy took the p*ss with what he did, and it was all too much... he should step down from one of his positions now... i hope Rana Bhagwandas can do something here... i hope the steam doesnt come out of the sails for this one, and the press keeps this issue alive and burning as well as the lawyers... Ameen!
A
I`m happy that we can look across the border and compare our lot and that so many ppl in Pakistan are doing that... Mushy took the p*ss with what he did, and it was all too much... he should step down from one of his positions now... i hope Rana Bhagwandas can do something here... i hope the steam doesnt come out of the sails for this one, and the press keeps this issue alive and burning as well as the lawyers... Ameen!
A
#21 Posted by zeemax on March 21, 2007 9:56:49 am
#20 by Urstruly,
... and the stupidest thing that this uniformed kanjar said in his interview with Geo is that they all became suicide bombers ... and expects people to believe that!
... and the stupidest thing that this uniformed kanjar said in his interview with Geo is that they all became suicide bombers ... and expects people to believe that!
#22 Posted by Urstruly on March 21, 2007 10:11:10 am
Re: # 21
Yes, this dheet kanjar supasses all dicatators of the world combined+US in its arrogance, and lies. I cannot think of anything worst than that.
The interesting thing in the picture is the placard at the front that appeals to Justice Bhagwandas to look into the matter of ``missing`` citizens of Pakistan. The poor chap gets a tall order just in the begining. I hope he shows half of the testicular fortitude that Justice Iftekhar has shown.
Yes, this dheet kanjar supasses all dicatators of the world combined+US in its arrogance, and lies. I cannot think of anything worst than that.
The interesting thing in the picture is the placard at the front that appeals to Justice Bhagwandas to look into the matter of ``missing`` citizens of Pakistan. The poor chap gets a tall order just in the begining. I hope he shows half of the testicular fortitude that Justice Iftekhar has shown.
#25 Posted by hamidm2 on March 21, 2007 11:09:55 am
zeemax and urstruly - the frick and frack show brought to you from somewhere in china and detroit usa .............. here is the routine:
frick: musharraf is a kanjar
frack: and bush is his dalal
frick: musharraf is a ahmedi
frack: bush is worse than ahmedis
frick: nothing is worse than ahmedis
frack: jews?
frick: okay, then bush is worse than jews
frack: hindoos are even worse
frick: okay, then musharraf is worse than hindoos
frack: but bush is even worse
frick: is he worse than a pig ?
frack : worser..... much much worser- even worser than worst
frick: stop freaking out !
frack: i miss masadi
frick: me too - he is a brave man
frack: i hate the white man
frick: i hate him and the jews and the hindoos and bahais and ismailis and shias and ....
frack: what about me
frick: i love you
frack: let`s blow ourselves up
frick: tu chal mein aya .......................
#30 Posted by Netizen on March 21, 2007 12:35:11 pm
Re: # 25
``frack: let`s blow ourselves up
frick: tu chal mein aya .......................``
hahaha..................
so appropriate.
``frack: let`s blow ourselves up
frick: tu chal mein aya .......................``
hahaha..................
so appropriate.
#29 Posted by Urstruly on March 21, 2007 12:00:48 pm
Re: # 25
Shut up oye already; or I will Wasi-Zafar you.
Shut up oye already; or I will Wasi-Zafar you.
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