A Nation Reborn

#32 Urstruly {``I guess Zeemax has been Wasi-Zafared by Chowk staff already``}

Maulvi Sahib,
See what happens to people who spread malicious rumors about others and who relish death, destruction, and mutilation of the human body? :)

Let this be a lesson for your own noorani persona.

Re: # 36

Mr: tolkinin : ``..Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.....``

Justice Das went to an Ashram to meditate and take divine guidance from a Hindu god. Let us see if the directions from an infidel god makes any difference in the execution of his duties.! Let us wait and see!

Kamath
.. another infidel...

judge jets into Pakistan debate

Justice Rana Bhagwan Das at Karachi airport on Wednesday. (AP)
Islamabad, March 21 (PTI): The Pakistan government’s decision to resolve the judiciary crisis by making Rana Bhagwan Das the acting chief justice has sparked a heated debate on whether a non-Muslim can head the apex court.

Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.

The judge had earlier held the acting chief justice’s post but this will be the first time he will take over after chief justice Iftikar Chaudhry was suspended. Das will head the five-judge Supreme Judicial Council currently hearing charges against Chaudhry.

As Das went for a long walk amid tight security soon after his arrival, moderates and hardliners crossed swords.

A leader of a faction of the Jamaat Uleman Islami, Maulana Sami-ul-Haq, criticised the move to make Das the acting chief justice. A non-Muslim cannot head the supreme court in an Islamic country as a non-Muslim cannot head the government, Haq said.

The Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a new outfit floated by Hafeez Saeed — the founder leader of the banned Lashkar-e-Toiba — echoed Haq. “It is against the Shariat to appoint Justice Rana Bhagwan Das the acting chief justice,” the organisation said in a statement issued by its leader Hafiz Adb-ur-Rahman Makki.

Makki said he held Das in the “highest esteem”, but asked: “How can a non-Muslim person take the oath of upholding Pakistan’s constitution, when the constitution is expressly bound to espouse the Quran and the Sunnah?”

While Pakistan’s constitution does not explicitly bar a non-Muslim from holding the post of the chief justice, some feel that the top judge also becomes the head of the Shariat court. Das is the only one among the supreme court judges who has a masters degree in Islamic law.

However, noted scholar and moderate Javed Ahmad Ghamdi contradicted both Haq and Makki, saying there were no restrictions or impediments in Islam to make a non-Muslim the head of the supreme court.

Veteran lawyer S.M. Zafar supported Ghamidi’s stand, saying there was no such bar in the constitution and cited the example of Cornelius, a Christian who was acting chief justice.

#36 I always knew that Allah/Bhagwan/God was watching over Pakistan. But I never thought Bhagwan would Personally fly into Pakistan on a jet airline to bring back law and order.

To borrow from Zeena:



Pakistan Zindabad!! Bhagwan Paindabad!!

#37 Tauheed sahib

[Bhagwan Paindabad]

Hey Bhagwan, yeh kya ho gaya!!

No need to worry, Tauheed sahib. Happy days are here again!

Bhagwan sab bhala karengey!

Of course, no pain – no gain!

(After all, the “pain” is the first part of that “pain-da-bad”!) :)

Salim # 7

(The question to ask is what replaces Mushy in the future? Another two rounds of twiddle dee and twiddle dum will not do. )

No need to worry. Let the system (electoral process) throw up anyone - even a tree.

I liked Mush - he drank - cracked jokes - even enjoyed dirty jokes. He was human.

But he can not be all - the State can not live on one person`s whims - The system has to work.

NHk

#40 Nazarhayatkhan {`` Let the system (electoral process) throw up anyone - even a tree.
But he can not be all - the State can not live on one person`s whims - The system has to work. ``]

Khan Sahib,
I agree with you. It`s not the tree that worries me. It`s another bloodthirsty provincial racist like BeSharif or Benazir. As long as the electoral process and the ensuing results are peaceful, I am all for democracy. However, the brick throwing lawyers are not behaviing in too promising a manner. :(

#38, Samar1982 {``but wait, you will find women killing cricketers and film-stars and ahmadias burning sunni/shiya mosques, children killing their paedophile fathers, etc. etc. ``}

Biasey Sahib,
I see your point, but I don`t necessarily share your pessimism. If only those who are prone to supremacy through greed and violence can be rehabilitated, there is hope for both countries. :)

BaRRay Abba ka Hukmnama -- for betay Musharraf kay liye -- don`t wear the uniform over your sherwani, son -- give it back to the army -- you look ridiculous.

``US expects Musharraf to leave army chief job - underlines restraint, transparency in CJ case Our Correspondent

WASHINGTON: The Bush administration, underlining extreme restraint in dealing with the aftermath of expects of the chief justice’s suspension, has said it expects President Gen. Pervez Musharraf will quit as army chief in line with his pledges. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the Pakistani leader had held out some assurances in this regard.

“He has made certain commitments —- and we think it’s important that he follow through on those commitments.”

Addressing a press briefing here on Tuesday, McCormack urged extreme restraint in dealing with the aftermath of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry’s suspension and maximum transparency in a decision on the presidential reference. (FP)

`presidential reference` my foot.

I am not too happy with Pakistani media and martial law government`s propaganda machinery projecting Justice Bhagwan Das as some kind of paragon of virtue and uprightness. Let us not forget that he is one of the judges who ``legitimized` this dictators coup d`etat and desecration of the Constitution. So instead of developing a personality cult for Bhagwan Das or even Justice Iftekhar, we must see how the judicial council acts out instead. The criterion for our judgement is that Justice Iftekhar is right and dictator is wrong. Any other outcome of this so-called judicial inquiry is unacceptable and travesty of justice.

It should be a point of interest to the readers here that, two of the judges in the judicial council panel are also the signatories of the reference against Justice Chowdery which should render them disqualified to sit on the panel. A petitioner cannot be a judge; it is a simple rule.

Also it must be noted that Judicial council has postponed CJ`s trial until first week of March. Martial Law propaganda machinery is spreading this disinformation that it was done at the request of CJ and his lawyer. Well his lawyer, Itezaz Ehsan has categorically denied this propaganda yesterday on TV.

L) Lawyers disperse after police fired teargas shells during a demonstration against the suspension of Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry in Quetta on Wednesday. (R) PPPP activists chant anti-Musharraf slogans during a demonstration in Islamabad. AFP

#36 tolkinin {``A leader of a faction of the Jamaat Uleman Islami, Maulana Sami-ul-Haq, criticised the move to make Das the acting chief justice. A non-Muslim cannot head the supreme court in an Islamic country as a non-Muslim cannot head the government, Haq said.
...Das is the only one among the supreme court judges who has a masters degree in Islamic law. ``}

Tolkinin,
Shri Bag One Dash ki Jai! :)
In my opinion, he is well-qualified to be CJ or even President. The only thing I have against Shri Bag One Dash is his meaningless education in Islamic Law - the term itself is an oxymoron. :)

As to my response to Maulana Sammy Owl Hack, I can only say:
``I will agree with you about a non-Muslim not being able to hold the highest offices ONLY if you are prepared to declared all Paki Punju Paindoos as non-Muslims - not just the Ahmedi ones.``

#43 by kamath on March 22, 2007 7:49am PT
Re: # 36

Mr: tolkinin : ``..Das, who returned today to Karachi from a pilgrimage in India, is the only Hindu judge in the Pakistan supreme court.....``

Justice Das went to an Ashram to meditate and take divine guidance from a Hindu god. Let us see if the directions from an infidel god makes any difference in the execution of his duties.! Let us wait and see!

Kamath
.. another infidel...

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Bagwan .hindu, kafir are just names not every body calls them...its the hindutva politics not only recemtly but 60 yers ago which rsulted in dividing India ..Alas