The Day We Killed Bob Woolmer

I don`t understand all this outrage regarding Masadi`s post # 63. He has stated an uncomfortable truth. And facts support his underlying thesis – that white life is deemed far more precious than colored. I am not saying it is good or bad (maybe its good for the world that whites are protected), but that’s the way it is.

How else would you explain the fact that Indonesians and other Asians are routinely put to death for smuggling drugs in Indonesia, yet white Australians, who are notorious for bringing drugs to vacation spots like Bali, have never been put to death? And when as a judicial procedure Australians do get a meek jail sentence, no less than Australian PM questions the very fairness of Indonesian judicial system, which results in quick release for Australian drug smugglers?

How else can you explain the fact that for the same crime in america, a black man is more likely to draw a harsher sentence than a white man?

Why is it that when black Zimbabweans evict white farmers, the whole world rises in uproar, yet no one seems to be questioning how these white farmers came about owning such vast land holdings in black Africa in first place?

How else can you explain the fact that when it comes to death counts of colored people in everyday killings resulting from white incursions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, we only know the round number, like ``20 dead``, ``50 dead``, ``200 dead``? Is it because colored people only die in round numbers? Or is it that we cant be bothered with counting exact number of their dead?

Re: # 113

Dear Mallik99 Sahib,

Your take on racial profiling,discrimination, prejudice is not incorrect but thats a global take on a modern day sporting tragedy:however I respectfully beg to differ to state the MAsadi`s take on Bob Woolmer`s death is in any way connected with the discourse of race...

And PM has posted the ``suspicious death `` message 4 times...Let the truth emerge.

And simply let a bereaved family cope with this loss.

Rajiv Sahib - Let me clarify - my post # 113 should not be taken as if I am trivializing the death of coach Woolmer. This death is tragic and shocking given the circumstances, regardless of whether the coach was white, black or brown.

I was just stating some facts that seem to back Masadi`s ``outrageous`` post about our mental conditioning which registers white death more profoundly than the colored death.

Re: # 115
Mallik Saab ,woh tho hai.The knee jerk colonial subservience.BTW, Am A Mariner, and in my profession have had Colleagues from PAkistan,Bangladesh,Sri LAnka...

The most fun I had was with A Captain and a Chief Engineer from Pakistan on a broken down ship under repair of all the places in Tunisia.I was the Superintendent in charge of that ship..

I dont want to sentimentalise this issue of common culture etc, but the Captain`s Earthy Punjabi jokes made a mockery of the MacMohan line..i`ve never laughed so much in my life

and like it or not...we are more similiar than we`ll ever be different.

And while we are at it...this painful over reaction to defeat in sport is also so damned similiar

Ok the boys in green had a bad day.

Didnt hear anybody cribbing when they beat India in Bangalore...and not so long ago

malik: you ask ``How else would you explain the fact that Indonesians and other Asians are routinely put to death for smuggling drugs in Indonesia, yet white Australians, who are notorious for bringing drugs to vacation spots like Bali, have never been put to death?``

Let me provide you with the obvious answer - because when an Australian is put on death row, the Australian government takes it up as a major issue. The Australian press makes it a major issue. When a Pakistani is put on death row, the Pakistan government is too busy to take notice. The Pakistani press may at best report the execution after the fact (as is done in in case of beheadings of Pakistanis in saudi arabia).

malik: as for Australians being ``notorious`` for bringing drugs to vacation spots like bali - where did you learn about this? I never heard about this ``notoriety`` and I have been to Indonesia many times - if anything, it is the Australians and other ``goras`` who are doing in Indonesia what the desi babus do in the sub-continent (serve as the white caller workers).

Also, having been to bali, as I recall the only thing that the Indonesian government official I went with was interested in was the Australian women on the bali beach who were minding their own business sunbathing. When I realized that this government official had chosen to take a walk on the beach not merely as a short break from the official work that had brought us there, but to oggle female tourists, it was sufficiently embarassing for me to literally drag him away from the beach and back to work.

Wear your Poriot hat and help us out here, Zarrar. PCB has announced Mushtaq Ahmed as stand-in coach. Are you accusing Mushy of poisoning Woolmer??

#113 by malik99 on March 21, 2007 4:11am PT


How else would you explain the fact that Indonesians and other Asians are routinely put to death for smuggling drugs in Indonesia, yet white Australians


goatbrain...people get judged not by the color of their skin but by the contents of their wallets...

#104 by masadi on March 21, 2007 3:09am PT

you pakis need to get your delusions in order....either you`re all fair skinned(cough cough) or you are dark skinned and persecuted by the white man....

So, the waziris finally get see the true colors of the middle east/central asian thugs they were giving shelter too. It is said that a fool will do what the wise man will do - but only at a much later date.

Urstruly (who has been forever ranting against the pakistan army for going after these thugs): Any comments?

100 Dead in Militant Clashes in Pakistan - nyt

excerpts:

PESHAWAR, Pakistan, March 21 — More than 100 people have been killed in fierce fighting in the past three days between foreign militants and local tribesmen in northern Pakistan, security officials said today.

As of early this morning, the death toll had risen to 78 militants from Uzbekistan and 28 tribes people. About 67 Uzbek militants were captured by tribes people and local militants in the tribal region, the officials said.

The fighting, in the restive South Waziristan region, could signal a breakdown in relations between local tribal leaders and the Central Asian and Arab militants who had sought shelter in the tribal region near the Afghanistan border after United States forces routed the Taliban from Afghanistan in 2001...

Interestingly enough a Pakistani acquaintance mentioned the following points

Some Pakistani cricketers were past their prime and the world cup was to be the last game for them. They were eager to make a monetary killing and they had links with bookies. Despite ICC`s protest Mushtaq was brought as assistant coach apparently on Inzamam`s urging.
It seems that previously Yousaf, Inzamam, Mushtaq and have been involved in match fixing There is some form of syndicate in Lahore that has very close links with most cricketers.
There are suspicions that they conspired to lose a match to Bangladesh in 1999.

This is not too far from Indian cricket where people have been accused and banned for taking bribes. Even Marlon Samuels was accused by the Indian Police of having illegal contacts with a bookmaker.

Is this world cup also being rigged?

malik99:
You really don`t have to be a genius to see that what annoyed most interactors in #63 wasn`t the general statement about race, which may or may not be true; but the imbecilic attempt to induce the `truth` about a particular individual`s motives from that general statement. Some retards see humans first and last by their skin colour (and then accuse others of committing the same sin!)
And, by the way, there was no reference there to our (coloured) folks` attitudes towards the white man, so that couldn`t really be the point, as you suggest it is, that RetardedMasadi was trying to make.

#122 arjun {``you pakis need to get your delusions in order....either you`re all fair skinned(cough cough) or you are dark skinned and persecuted by the white man....``}

Arjun Bhai,
I don`t blame you for being so confused. After all, the PPPs on Chowk try to impress the Injuns (but not themselves) about their lack of melanin. But, just look at the mostly PPP Paki cricket team and ``voila, tout les Paki sont noirs! ``

CricInfo`s caption says it all: And he gets a big standing ovation; each Zimbabwe player jogs over to shake his hand. And as he raises his bat, his Pakistan side all come down to greet their captain who, by now, is in tears. He takes his helmet off, acknowledges the crowd while wiping the tears dry. And 15 years ago today, Inzamam scored 60 off 37 balls to help Pakistan win the World Cup semi-final against New Zealand

-Farewell Inzi bhai! We`ll always love you! Allah aap ko salaamat rakhe aur apne Habib ki ziyarat naseeb farmaaye! ameen!

Tahmed sahib,

(So, the waziris finally get see the true colors of the middle east/central asian thugs they were giving shelter too. )

But what exactly did the Uzbeks do which raised the hackles of the waziris. Flirt with the local boys?

Regards