Façade of Pseudo Feminism

Re:#58
neembu begum( the famous pseudo feminist)

takes yet another fp board hostage to her pagalpun, bigotry, hateful propaganda and height of jealousy............

Re: # 57

and Zeena Begum takes yet another fp board hostage to her pagalpun. :)

mamoon sahib

Just wait and see, how neembu begum( the pseudo feminist) will come back with more hateful remarks for me and for this article................LOL

But, best bet is to laugh @ their moronish posts..........

#47 mamoon sahib
Re:-[[If women carry themselves with grace and confidence, I think they will only get respect from any one who is reasonable despite being educated or not. ]]

And this is what Miss Farzana Versey is all about. Miss Farzana Versey is very well known in all Indo Pak literary world.

In this sentence you just described Miss Versey`s personality.

Dear Mamoon sahib

Since, this article is about pseudo feminists and their pseudo propagandas.
Please, permit me to introduce you to a REAL LADY of chowk. May be you already know her.

But, to add to this article, I wish to dedicate this post for a real, genuine and brave and intellectual lady of chowk.com who was our ex-chief editor..............

neembu begum( pseudo feminist).

Read this and then compare your self with Miss Versey........You`re nothing and Miss Versey is everything when it comes to intellect and sensitivities.................

neembu begum

Miss Farzana versey is highly intellectual, respectable, dignified,talented, very famous Indian writer with lots and lots of self esteem.
Miss Versey is very polished person with finesse and well groomed personality.She is also very sensitive , sensible and kind hearted....she is a real woman with all her ideology.
She goes out of her way to help poor oppressed Indian women......she never claims to be this pseudo feminist S**T.........but, she is always there for the needs of the poor people regardless of gender/cast or religion.

God has given her beauty and brain , both.............I wish I could be like her just 25%, but, I am just an humbled soul............

God( almighty) bless our lady Miss Farzana Versey . Ameen.

neembu begum

You`re just another jealous body with NO soul left............you`re just full of hatred for real women.....

You lost my respect, when you showed your extreme hatred for our Lady Miss Farzana Versey when she became Chief Editor of chowk.com. You called me names and fight with her on each and every board of Front Page just our of your own hateful propaganda, b/c you could not tolerate Miss Farzana versey to be CE of chowk......While she was competent and you were incompetent............

Yes, I do admit on Front Page that , in the beginning I never used to read Miss Versey`s articles and I always misunderstood her........... later when she became CE, in the beginning I was not quite happy about it, b/c I thought she won`t be a good CE and chowk will go down the drain..........

But, to my pleasant surprise, our Miss Farzana Versey did EXCELLENT job as a CE, she proved herself the best writer and admin. She worked hard to up grade this chowk.com.

And that was the time when I became her #1 die hard fan...
I wish all Indian and Pakistani women to be like her............

#47 mamoon
Re:-[[Thanks for the encouragement and you are quite right the issues of women are more regarding their economic empowerment. If women carry themselves with grace and confidence, I think they will only get respect from any one who is reasonable despite being educated or not. ]]

Mamoon sahib

This is the essence of your article. And this is the CONCLUSION of our discussion....
Thank you very much for your kind and respectful words.
I will look forward for more of your articles with unique perspective.......

regards

#50 by neembu on April 20, 2007 5:55pm PT
Re: # 49

Zeena Begum is a plagiarist? Where is Versey to dispute yet this example....]]]

neembu begum

LEAVE MISS FARZANA VERSEY ALONE.



For your kind information read this......And also read post #50.......
[[[Lily Brooklyn
I wish to give you the same dose of your own venom in exactly your own words........for spreading hate among human progeny and for creating a riff between men and women........You`re pseudo feminist........And face it....you are extremist and fascist....

This is back fire to show you your own reflection in exactly in your own words.......to show you mirror...
To all the feminists of this world......

[[ Pseudo feminism is just plain wrong belief. I wish I could give these people the benefit of the doubt, but their arguments are counterfactual, unsubstantiated, paranoiac, hateful, and boring. They either reject the facts of normal society or, when they can no longer sustain their fantastic denials.

They behave as fascists as we know them now, saying, ``We want this exactly the way we wish to and that`s the right way only and natural way.``I hate the pseudo feminists who do not believe in existence of genetic differences among men and women and they are always threatened by the very facts of genetics................

Their slogans are, MY WAY or NO WAY..........]]

Enjoy the taste of your own hatred....

neembu begum

If you will call me liar and hypocrite...I will call you liar and hypocrite.........
If you will call me beyaatch, I will call you beyaatch..........
You along with your abusive gang have had been harrassing me a lot on un plugged and on front page.......................

It looks like you have NO life............get a life.....You are abusive towards me and you have had been abusive towards Miss Farzana Versey.........you are pseudo feminist sociopath, just here on chowk for your own paranoia......

Again, you are counterfactual, unsubstantiated, paranoiac, hateful, and boring pseudo feminist like Lily Brooklyn......

Now, harrass me more, abuse me , call me names...........as you always do...and do not forget to call your abusive gang...

Well, JG aka teja_seth is here.....call others as well......NO life...

#49 teja_seth aka JG

Well, JG sahib

How many times I have requested you NOT to act as neembu`s puppet. Use your own mind if you can?

And also, on Un plugged, when you called me names and tried your best to insult me and abuse me for no reason recently just b/c neembu begum e-mailed you to insult me and as a hired puppet and dummy for neembu, you made it your life time mission to insult me.....

I also requested you to ignore me and be a gentleman.....b/c I have had been extremely gentle and nice with you........

Anyway, today you proved that you`re also shameless like your boss neembu and I guess that it is useless to ask you ignore me...........

Anyway, JG sahib
For your kind information read this......And also read post #50.......
[[[Lily Brooklyn
I wish to give you the same dose of your own venom in exactly your own words........for spreading hate among human progeny and for creating a riff between men and women........You`re pseudo feminist........And face it....you are extremist and fascist....

This is back fire to show you your own reflection in exactly in your own words.......to show you mirror...
To all the feminists of this world......

[[ Pseudo feminism is just plain wrong belief. I wish I could give these people the benefit of the doubt, but their arguments are counterfactual, unsubstantiated, paranoiac, hateful, and boring. They either reject the facts of normal society or, when they can no longer sustain their fantastic denials.

They behave as fascists as we know them now, saying, ``We want this exactly the way we wish to and that`s the right way only and natural way.``I hate the pseudo feminists who do not believe in existence of genetic differences among men and women and they are always threatened by the very facts of genetics................

Their slogans are, MY WAY or NO WAY..........]]

Enjoy the taste of your own hatred....

Bye.

Now, keep on spreading this hateful propaganda.....I don`t care.]]

Why you are always ready to attack me?

I know where you live? If, you wish I can come and visit you with my brother and husband and will have a meeting @ dinner......You can bring your boss neembu, too.

And then face to face, you can tell me , why are you itching for fight? Do not take my politeness as my weakness..........

Besides
Get a lilttle life...........LOL

Yes, I counter attacked Lily Brooklyn in her own words...I always kill the snake by giving them their own poison...............

If, you will call me a Beyaatch.....I will call you SOB

Just to make you feel, how others feel when you call them names and when you attack them with your bigot remarks......

If, you`ll call me Jihadi/fundo/Mullah...I will call you Indian Jihadi/fundo/mullah......

So, does that make me plagiarist? absolutely not.


Also I am not a writer or journalist.......so, SUE ME........LOL

NOw, this JG will come up with more name calling , insults, he will e-mail madam neembu and will come up with more bright ideas( in fact retarded) ideas to down play my stand against pseudo feminists..................But, at the end JG will get the same dose ............LOL


Get a life, JG....There are plenty of good hobbies in Brooklyn other than attacking me, other than insulting me.............Or you`re being paid by neembu begum to call me names?

#50 neembu begum sahiba

You are extremely retarded and highly moronish.........You have never ever made any sense in the past, doesn`t make sense currently and will never ever make sense in the future.

I have told you million times NOT to interact or respond to my posts. But, it lookss like you have NO self respect left what so ever.

You are obsessed with fighting with strangers on internet 24/7. You are pathetically shameless woman who has NO life other than accusing others for No reason at all.........

You have your own inferior complexes..........and you always come back with your pseudo feminist disgusting agenda..............well, the fact is, you are just good for nothing.

You are blaming me for being plagiarist here and jumped to the conculsion along with your HIRED # 1 CHAMCHA JG aka Tesha_seth who is also shameless like you.

Lily Brooklyn is another pathetic pseudo feminist................yes, I did read her senseless pathetic comments full of hatred for men.............And, yes I counter attacked pseudo feminists like Lily Brooklyn and her ilks like you and back fired in her own language...........

I gave her the taste of her own poison...........

This is my style............When these Indians call all Pakistanis Jihadis/Talibans/fundos and full of hatred comments..................I always back fire and always give them the taste of their own poison in exactly the same hateful words that they use for us......................

Yes, I call them extremists/fascists/Jihadis/Talibanis and fundos...........just to show them the mirror.....................

This is tit for tat. What goes around that comes around................every action has the similar reaction................to hit you back............

Yes, neembu begum.............

I counter attacked all the pseudo feminists with the same hate full words, which you used for others..................and I wanted to re attack Lily Brooklyn and I did also with the same words.............

Yes, I am repeating the saem thing here again....{{{It`s just plain wrong belief. I wish I could give these people the benefit of the doubt, but their arguments are counterfactual, unsubstantiated, paranoiac, hateful, and boring. They either reject the facts of normal society or, when they can no longer sustain their fantastic denials.

They behave as fascists as we know them now, saying, ``We want this exactly the way we wish to and that`s the right way only and natural way.``I hate the pseudo feminists who do not believe in existence of genetic differences among men and women and they are always threatened by the very facts of genetics................

Their slogans are, MY WAY or NO WAY..........]]]

And, I do not regret even for a moment to use these same words for pseudo feminists like you and like Lily Brooklyn..............if and whenever you and anyone will attack others with your unreasonable harte full venom.................

Now come up with more hatefull venom....................LOL...

Do you think I care? I don`t.....SUE ME......

Re: # 49

Zeena Begum is a plagiarist? Where is Versey to dispute yet this example....

Re: # 46

I wish I could give these people the benefit of the doubt, but their arguments are counterfactual, unsubstantiated, paranoiac, hateful, and boring. They either reject the facts of our hegemonic society or, when they can no longer sustain their fantastic denials, they reveal themselves for the fetishizing fascists we knew them to be all along, saying, ``That`s the way it`s supposed to be; that`s the natural order.``

Hahahahaha Zeena, why must you steal from feminist bloggers while trashing feminists on chowk?

I found the above paragraph in your post in this blog dated January 24, 2007. :D

Re: # 45

Zeena Begum, channeling Phyllis Schafly, Anita Bryant and Johnny Walker at the same time can`t be good for your mental health. :)

````Let me give you my example..........I always wear jeans in Pakistan( even in rural areas)...I never ever felt any kind of harassment).......all they do is respect me and love me.....

Most of the times, rural poor men take me to their families and introduce me to their wives and advice them to listen to me and do exactly what I tell them.....they do not get offended....Men I have experienced are more supportive and like to change their women folks.................. ````

Thanks for the encouragement and you are quite right the issues of women are more regarding their economic empowerment. If women carry themselves with grace and confidence, I think they will only get respect from any one who is reasonable despite being educated or not.

mamoon sahib
Besides,

It`s just plain wrong belief. I wish I could give these people the benefit of the doubt, but their arguments are counterfactual, unsubstantiated, paranoiac, hateful, and boring. They either reject the facts of normal society or, when they can no longer sustain their fantastic denials.

They behave as fascists as we know them now, saying, ``We want this exactly the way we wish to and that`s the right way only and natural way.``I hate the pseudo feminists who do not believe in existence of genetic differences among men and women and they are always threatened by the very facts of genetics................

Their slogans are, MY WAY or NO WAY..........

Re#42 mamoon sahib
Thanks for your intelligent response.

[[No idea why so many of these men or women are frustrated and giving such negative reactions. ARe they all New york times journalists asked by Chowk to edit articles?]]

Exactly....LOL
Don`t worry, they will always coem up with their pseudo propagandas and will try to harrass you , if, you will not agree with them. This is the way they are. They will always be negative , if, your ideology won`t suit their minds. They are self righteous. And don`t forget, they are pseudo feminists means full of hatred and negativity, they act like champions for women rights...................

But, remember as I stated earlier, they will never ever go out of their ways to help really poor and oppressed women who are really in need.................and yes all of them have a delusion that they are some sort of NY times journalists hired by chowk staff to edit articles.....LOL...well said!!!

[[I said pseudo feminism in the garb of feminism or they think feminism is the most pure activist and academic initiative ever started and why because it is started by `Women``so I am all the more SINFUL who questioned it.

Every thing in this world can be questioned and ridiculed but not FEMINISM. Well that is the problem. Have not we notice same inflexibility in the point of Fundmentalists who are not ready to listen to anything other than their point of view.]]

Yes, they have this delusion and illusion that feminism is some sort of pure activity which , if, questioned will be SINFUL...........quite right.

Yes, they think they are LIBERALS and OPEN MINDED..........as a matter of fact they are a walking talking examples of FUNDAMENTALISTS , exactly the same mind sets.........they are intolerant , prejudiced, inforgiving and inflexable and full of hate, lies and double standards.................just like pseudo Mullahs. I call them fascists and fanatics.
Yes, they never listened to anyone, but, their own pseudo agendas...............they are exactly like dictators ready to choke your throat, if, you disagree with them..........

[[In the start of my article I say femisism and women empowerment is all the more important but I question pseudo feminism in the garb of feminism and women rights.

. Now the frustrations show that most associated themselves with pseudo femisism and thus all frustrated . Well not only I write articles, in my personal life also I am very vocal about it and quite right some times it is a cause of my social exclusion and gets frustrating but I am not gonna give it up. ]]

I understand your views right from the start and that was the main reason I admired your intellectual views and this article...........very valid and so true....You rock.

Indeed you showed your uniqueness and intelligence................Bravo.

I do not believe in this word feminism, I believe in standing for the rights of all the humans regardless of gender/cast/religion/nationality without spreading hate ful pseudo agendas......Please, never stop raising your true and intellectual voice just b/c they dislike your views............remember, never get frustrated, if, you`ll be frustrated then there won`t be any difference between you and them.......they are frustrated and let them be....

Never giveup your ideology.........your ideology is much more brighter than most of interactors....

Let me confess here something here infront of you......there was a certain time period in my life time, when I got carried away by the slogans of pseudo feminists and started acting exactly like them, but, I guess that was just the exploration time......later when I realized that their ideology is screwed up and twisted....I came in to my senses and now, I laugh @ myself for that......
Please, write more articles like this .....I will wait for them to be published. thanks

[[Regarding Pakistani women they are indeed so repressed that anything they say and do is justified. Though not applicable for Pakistani women who have spent significant time in the West as then they should be smart enough to realise what is a fad and what is not. So I guess this article may look a bit of out of place me sitting here in the West interacting and going about doing things in an environment which is entirely different then Pakistani environment where even if a woman comes out on a street in jeans there is some possibility of harassment. ]]

Yes, Pakistani women are suppressed and oppressed. I admit, but, you know why? b/c of lack of education,basic health needs and lack of opportunities.........
I have had been to so many remote villages in Pakistan( both Punjab and NWFP) and Azad Kashmir...........for different projects. But, it is not only Pakistani women, it is about 80% of Pakistanis ( living in rural areas) regardless of gender who are suffering b/c of lack of their basic life needs................

Let me give you my example..........I always wear jeans in Pakistan( even in rural areas)...I never ever felt any kind of harassment).......all they do is respect me and love me.....

Most of the times, rural poor men take me to their families and introduce me to their wives and advice them to listen to me and do exactly what I tell them.....they do not get offended....Men I have experienced are more supportive and like to change their women folks..................

At the end.....do not change your ideology , if, you will do, you`ll lose yourself in the spin.....

regards

#41 by nb on April 19, 2007 0:09am PT
Re: # 40
[[Zeena, how do you blame the Virginia Tech killings on feminism???]]

nb sahiba
First of all you asked me a totally twisted question..........that doesn`t fit right here...
Please, re read my posts below and come up to something more valid.

If, you don`t mind, may I correct your question.......
You could have asked......
[[Zeena, why do you think Virginia Tech Sociopath had just the same mind set as pseudo feminists have???]]

My dear
Sociopaths are full of hate for others, they always believe their rights have had been denied based on their gender,cast , religion or socioeconomic status. That`s exactly what happened with virginia Tech sociopath and that`s exactly what pseudo feminists ha ve had been spreading hateful speeches...........they never really helped poor oppressed women , especially from third world countries....their only mean motive is to create a riff between social setup and disruption , creating more chaos which can lead to killings.....just think about it.....................

Regards