Dawood Mamoon April 15, 2007
#9 Posted by ZahraJ on April 16, 2007 2:23:49 pm
Dawood -
I am interested in reading your perspective. I guess long time back, I did read a few amusing perspectives by you. Could you please summarize your findings in a paragraph? Some of us do not have the luxury of time to read all interesting titles on Chowk? See, for some of us time is money. Once you do that, I will be willing to take a look. Till then, I am glad you dedicated another article to women.
I am sure they seem to shake your very identity and existence ;)
Take Care.
I am interested in reading your perspective. I guess long time back, I did read a few amusing perspectives by you. Could you please summarize your findings in a paragraph? Some of us do not have the luxury of time to read all interesting titles on Chowk? See, for some of us time is money. Once you do that, I will be willing to take a look. Till then, I am glad you dedicated another article to women.
I am sure they seem to shake your very identity and existence ;)
Take Care.
#7 Posted by Shah2 on April 16, 2007 9:07:21 am
More than 50% of women in the west are single houshold head and not by chioce but by divorce
not willing to live with there men due to system
that supports them with services lke AFDC ,vocational rehabilitation. food stamps and all taxpayers funded social programes
and if not by themselves
they are alone and empty with no men in there rising of children without male role model
not willing to live with there men due to system
that supports them with services lke AFDC ,vocational rehabilitation. food stamps and all taxpayers funded social programes
and if not by themselves
they are alone and empty with no men in there rising of children without male role model
#6 Posted by mamoon on April 16, 2007 4:24:05 am
Dear fellows
May be you have not touched upon some hard core femisist literature, though not academic in nature, feminist propaganda and interacted with feminists.
Anyway from your comments I have deducted your intellectual IQs so any effort to explain myself would be quite futile even if i write pages over pages.
But thanks for the feed back and your judgements.
Pseudo feminism (socalled practiced feminism) suffers from exactly the same twisted and superior complexed stuck mind sets which many of you have exposed here. Here I am assuming all of you have lived and stayed long periods of times in the West and not only that u have a rich gender mix company on daily basis out side your household or neighbor hood. As far as Pak or India is concerned, they have always remained copy cats esspecially recently and feminsit activism suffers from total lack of creativity unless some real women issues are not involved.
May be you have not touched upon some hard core femisist literature, though not academic in nature, feminist propaganda and interacted with feminists.
Anyway from your comments I have deducted your intellectual IQs so any effort to explain myself would be quite futile even if i write pages over pages.
But thanks for the feed back and your judgements.
Pseudo feminism (socalled practiced feminism) suffers from exactly the same twisted and superior complexed stuck mind sets which many of you have exposed here. Here I am assuming all of you have lived and stayed long periods of times in the West and not only that u have a rich gender mix company on daily basis out side your household or neighbor hood. As far as Pak or India is concerned, they have always remained copy cats esspecially recently and feminsit activism suffers from total lack of creativity unless some real women issues are not involved.
#32 Posted by Teja_Seth on April 18, 2007 6:16:30 pm
Re: # 6
Anyway from your comments I have deducted your intellectual IQs so any effort to explain myself would be quite futile even if i write pages over pages.
HUH?
If deducting intellectual IQ doesn`t help, have you tried adding emotional IQs?
Goddammit.. I should have submitted my essays for chowk`s consideration a long time back.
Anyway from your comments I have deducted your intellectual IQs so any effort to explain myself would be quite futile even if i write pages over pages.
HUH?
If deducting intellectual IQ doesn`t help, have you tried adding emotional IQs?
Goddammit.. I should have submitted my essays for chowk`s consideration a long time back.
#3 Posted by nb on April 15, 2007 5:01:55 pm
What is your point? what in your opinion is true feminism, and how do you know?
For all the faults of the West, they have done a better job of making women`s lives less inequal than much of India or Pakistan.
For all the faults of the West, they have done a better job of making women`s lives less inequal than much of India or Pakistan.
#4 Posted by neembu on April 15, 2007 5:13:15 pm
Re: # 3
NB,
Here were the claims I deduced from the convoluted prose of this piece:
1. Democracy that holds all citizens equal regardless of gender and race is ideal.
2. ``Pseudo Feminism`` is based on concepts of female superiority.
3. ``Pseudo Feminism`` exists in scholarship that questions notions of androcentricity in science.
4. ``Pseudo Feminism`` is responsible for the fallacious field of gender, queer and lesbian studies.
5. Equal earning power among men and women make paying dinner bills a stress situation for the author. (Apparently one cannot ask their companion what they would prefer)
6. ``Pseudo Feminism`` now performs as a dominant structural framework in the West-and I don`t know how this claim could be possibly supported-it wasn`t here.
That`s all I could bring myself to suss out.
NB,
Here were the claims I deduced from the convoluted prose of this piece:
1. Democracy that holds all citizens equal regardless of gender and race is ideal.
2. ``Pseudo Feminism`` is based on concepts of female superiority.
3. ``Pseudo Feminism`` exists in scholarship that questions notions of androcentricity in science.
4. ``Pseudo Feminism`` is responsible for the fallacious field of gender, queer and lesbian studies.
5. Equal earning power among men and women make paying dinner bills a stress situation for the author. (Apparently one cannot ask their companion what they would prefer)
6. ``Pseudo Feminism`` now performs as a dominant structural framework in the West-and I don`t know how this claim could be possibly supported-it wasn`t here.
That`s all I could bring myself to suss out.
#5 Posted by nb on April 15, 2007 5:36:03 pm
Re: # 4
Do you know a single person who claims she is better than men by virtue of her gender?I don`t. I honestly think some people imagine these things or attribute them from their own insecurities.
This article reminds me of a really regressive magazine called Women`s Era which used to be popular in India and probably still is. Articles like this show how far we really have to go.
Do you know a single person who claims she is better than men by virtue of her gender?I don`t. I honestly think some people imagine these things or attribute them from their own insecurities.
This article reminds me of a really regressive magazine called Women`s Era which used to be popular in India and probably still is. Articles like this show how far we really have to go.
#2 Posted by neembu on April 15, 2007 4:00:57 pm
``...underdeveloped parts of the East, where most of the times basic human rights are violated in the guise of acute poverty or sheer social exploitation, women are the prime causality for such social and economic injustices``
Are women the ``causality`` or ``casualty``? Examples like this are unintentionally amusing.
Seriously, this language of this piece is convoluted-author seems to have taken a real beating from the Leila Ahmed chapter ``The Discourse of the Veil`` from her seminal book Women and Gender in Islam. The writer is no Ahmed. I hope he doesnt give up his day job.
http://www.chowk.com/show_interactor_page.cgi?membername=neembu&start=10&end=14&page=3&chapter=1#journal
Are women the ``causality`` or ``casualty``? Examples like this are unintentionally amusing.
Seriously, this language of this piece is convoluted-author seems to have taken a real beating from the Leila Ahmed chapter ``The Discourse of the Veil`` from her seminal book Women and Gender in Islam. The writer is no Ahmed. I hope he doesnt give up his day job.
http://www.chowk.com/show_interactor_page.cgi?membername=neembu&start=10&end=14&page=3&chapter=1#journal
#25 Posted by Dash_Dot on April 18, 2007 5:23:24 am
``women are the prime causality for such social and economic injustices``
cool! so woman are to be blamed for their troubles.
What a bleeding dickhead the author is.....
or as they lady sayeth
Are women the ``causality`` or ``casualty``
I doubt if the authors knows the difference, let alone the answer
(a finger wagging icon here) its not amusing,
its hilarious. For once we have an unintentional MCP here....
cool! so woman are to be blamed for their troubles.
What a bleeding dickhead the author is.....
or as they lady sayeth
Are women the ``causality`` or ``casualty``
I doubt if the authors knows the difference, let alone the answer
(a finger wagging icon here) its not amusing,
its hilarious. For once we have an unintentional MCP here....
#1 Posted by Zeena on April 15, 2007 2:06:54 pm
Dear writer
Excellent article so far.
[[[Thus it is no surprise that half cooked theories of pseudo feminism have failed to bring equality to the economical life of women in the Western societies which they deserve the most. There, women still earn less than men for the same amount of work. Neither, feminism has strengthened family orientation of an average Western household. Rather, a misinformed feminist cult has been formed which is exporting its twisted ideas of women independence and using the plight of women in developing countries as a good excuse. ]]
Each and every word of this article reflects the very much truth.
Thanks for exposing these pseudo feminist cults..........
PS:- remember, we do have one or two such pseudos here on chowk.
Good luck
Excellent article so far.
[[[Thus it is no surprise that half cooked theories of pseudo feminism have failed to bring equality to the economical life of women in the Western societies which they deserve the most. There, women still earn less than men for the same amount of work. Neither, feminism has strengthened family orientation of an average Western household. Rather, a misinformed feminist cult has been formed which is exporting its twisted ideas of women independence and using the plight of women in developing countries as a good excuse. ]]
Each and every word of this article reflects the very much truth.
Thanks for exposing these pseudo feminist cults..........
PS:- remember, we do have one or two such pseudos here on chowk.
Good luck
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