Jaane kahan gaye voh din!

Re: # 120
Zahra

Here it is
SzlaDzieweczka(Slow)

and the more modern version

Szla(Modern faster version)

and of course the Madhumati one.

Dil tadap

Re: # 119
C`mon, you can rip it into an mp3 and email it to me.-) I have it somewhere on tape in India. Don`t have it on a CD though, will probably try to get it somehow.

Re: # 118

The latter.

The documentary movie``SUAS`` you are planning to watch is indeed worth watching. I guess I watched the 1st show last year in NYC. I was very pleased to see that all their efforts got well acknowledged and rewarded in the end. I prefer D.C of the past 8-10 years.

#116 by swarrier

I have that song in my Rafi collection. If you really really want it, I can perhaps rip it for you and place it on some web archive .... but I`m too lazy .. :)

Re: # 117
Which one, the Dixie Chicks or the Polish folk dance one?

Re: # 110

Swarrier - Can you post the link for the song you were referring to? Thanks for an interesting post.

Thanks.

Re: # 115
Arthritic fingers cause ELP`s and CCR`s. Never so in speech. -)

I wonder if somebody can locate this Rafi/Khayyam melody from Shola or Shabnam on the net.
Jaane kya dhoondti rehti hain yeh aankhen mujhme
Raakh ke dher mein shola hai na chingaari hain

It ends with
aarazu jurm-e- vafaa jurm-e- tamannaa hai gunaaha
ye vo duniyaa hai jahaan pyaar nahin ho sakataa
kaise baazaar kaa dastoor tumhein samajhaaoon
bik gayaa jo vo kharidaar nahin ho sakataa ...

It is one of my favourite songs and I`ve only been able to locate an instrumental version played by Brian Silas on the piano.

Swarrier,

Just a mild criticism. Emerson Lake & Palmer shouldn`t be referred to as ELP, just as Creedence Clearwater Revival should never be referred to as CCR. It detracts from their status by turning them into mere pieces of scattered alphabets :)

Re: Pseudo Begum Nek-Perveen,

How many jahilae` mutliq -- ``ignorant`` jehadis listen to Emerson Lake & Palmer (head scratching icon).

Re: # 106 Good comments.
I wonder do American people get news of things going back at home ? What they think of evolutionary change demanded by lawyers and their suppression and sacrafices ? Americans stand by Lawyers or they hate lawyers and prefer khaki overlord ? ( bush is lawyer by training ?)

Re: # 111
DM , no offhand I cannot think of any direct Yiddish folk influences. There are some from the Lebanese composers (Rahbani brothers) and these are more North African but close enough to resemble Havaa Nagila.
The interesting thing is that Yiddish folk tunes may have also had some Roma influences and if you listen to Roma music it is very close to Indian folk. That isn`t very surprising of course.

# 110

I was wrong in this post. The Polish folk dance inspired tune is ``Dil tadap tadap ke keh raha hai`` not ``Julmi sang aankh ladi``. My mistake.

``Julmi sang aankh ladi`` is all Salil-da. What an incredible composer!!!

swarrier:

Are you aware of any uses of yiddish folk music by Indian music directors? BTW I was amazed at the similarity between Ghar Aaya and the Arabian song you had posted earlier.

Re: # 109
I like the Dixie chicks, actually I liked them prior to 1993 when they were more bluegrass oriented and before Natalie Maines joined them and they went mainstream. I don`t know if the video you are talking about is about the song ``Not ready to play nice``. I like a more raw sound than they do now, and I have Shut up and Sing on my Netflix queue.

As for the Latin scene most of my experience is with folk bands like the mariachis of Mexico, not mainstream pop. And of course Brazilian stuff by Caetano Veloso, Gil, Djavan is etc is great. I particularly like the Tango , Milonga (Astor Piazzolla) from Argentina. More classically Hector Villa-Lobos.

Actually I used to be amazed at how Indian music directors seamlessly mixed music from South America, Spain, Portugal(Fado) with Indian folk tunes and produced lovely music. Salil Chowdhury for example picked up an old Polish folk dance to produce ``Julmi sang aankh ladi``, in Madhumati.
I think the advantage then was that pop music had not yet been ruled by the record companies that sell music to kids with disposable incomes, and more real music was available to experiment with. Real folk music is the life breath of all musical forms even of the classical variety.

I don`t think music directors today are less creative. However there is less variety and more uniformity because of pressures from record companies and less experimenting and therefore less inspiration. Or perhaps they are just too lazy to go out and search for the real folk music. But personally I think things are looking up, I am hearing good music in India today. Recently somebody had posted a pretty neat song from Pakistan on UP(unplugged).

Anyway winter is gone now and hopefully Harvard square will throw up some nice artistes again to while an afternoon away.

Re: # 107

Swarrier - Most of the Latin groups have great music and songs but I do not care much for their recent music videos. The videos I really liked were from 80s and 90s. I am not sure if you have every listened to Dixie Chicks and the video of their latest album, that is a classic. I love it. I love it as much as I detest Nur Jehan and many of her ilks. I find some of the Indians extremely naive when they expect the other side of the border to like each and every singer or poetical verse on this side. Sorry not all of us have the nationalists` bent of mind. Many of us nurture a global perspective than the disgusting traditional nationalistic approach. In any case, the jahilae` mutliq -- ``ignorant`` does not need to be clarified on anything. He seems to come from a background where people have no regard and understanding of a different point of view. What`s new? That`s the typical mindset of a jehadi -- from other side of the border though :) Chowk has enough of that cursed mindset from the Pakistani side. I am glad the other side is also showing its True Colors (great song by C.Lauper).

#98 by ranjit,

It is not a matter of India/Pakistan. Neither is it a matter of taste. It is the difference between connoisseurs and philistines. Only a few people won`t settle for anything less than a gourmet meal, while most will stand in queue quite happily for a McDonalds.

Re: # 104
Even if there were recordings of Ustad Alladiya Khan and Pandit Bhaskarbuva Bhakale I am not very sure I would want to listen to them. One died in 1936 and the other in 1923. Recording techniques of that era could never do justice to their talents.
Even today most microphones and amplifiers thereby cannot pick up the variations of some musical instruments. Palghat Mani Iyer used to refuse to play in front of a microphone precisely because of that.
I`ve often listened to a mridangam whisper notes that somehow were never reproduced in a recording.

Ranjit
Why should a dislike of Nur Jahan etc be associated with a lack of culture? It`s personal. If somebody can appreciate Longfellow that`s a cultured outlook too.