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Re: Pseudo Begum Nek-Perveen,

How many jahilae` mutliq -- ``ignorant`` jehadis listen to Emerson Lake & Palmer (head scratching icon).

Re: # 110

Swarrier - Can you post the link for the song you were referring to? Thanks for an interesting post.

Thanks.

Re: # 117
Which one, the Dixie Chicks or the Polish folk dance one?

Re: # 118

The latter.

The documentary movie``SUAS`` you are planning to watch is indeed worth watching. I guess I watched the 1st show last year in NYC. I was very pleased to see that all their efforts got well acknowledged and rewarded in the end. I prefer D.C of the past 8-10 years.

Re: # 120
Zahra

Here it is
SzlaDzieweczka(Slow)

and the more modern version

Szla(Modern faster version)

and of course the Madhumati one.

Dil tadap

Re: # 122

Swarrier: I suggest listening to the following:

1. Yulduz Usmanova - The Best of Yulduz
Song - Hur Kiz
An intro: Yulduz Usmanova is from Uzbekistan, along the fabled Silk Road trade route in Central Asia. Her singing is a fusion of intricately coded styles, which includes borrowings from Turkish and Persian rhythms and scales. She is accompanied by the tanbur (a long-necked lute) and the doira (a hand drum) but often wields a wicked backbeat and sees no reason why she should not use the latest electronic percussion and synthesizers. She is a folk singer and a club diva, a Moslem woman who wears miniskirts and was elected to her country`s parliament, and an international figure who resides in a rural area outside of Tashkent. Her elders admire her espousal of endangered folkways while young girls, emerging from the dual oppressions of Soviet life and religious fundamentalism, cherish her as a role model. Yulduz is a bundle of contradictions but knows exactly who she is. --Christina Roden
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Yulduz-Usmanova

2. The Pamet River Band - Celtic Vision
Planxty Irwin

I will post a few other later.

Re: # 126

Thanks for the tip. I went on the web to look for her and listened to some of her song samples. I liked the more traditional versions rather than the lush arrangements, perhaps because the traditional stuff sounds newer to me than the other ones. Too many electric instruments tend to make it less unique I think.

When I was a kid in school I used to listen to a program on the BBC ``A taste of honey Irish style``. It was run by somebody called Gloria Honeyford (or Hunnyford, not sure about the spelling) and I was very interested in traditional arrangements of celtic and english folk tunes.

Since you put Planxty Irwin you might like this. Simple and pleasant.

Re: # 127

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

Re: # 122

Swarrier - Thank you.

swarrier:

Are you aware of any uses of yiddish folk music by Indian music directors? BTW I was amazed at the similarity between Ghar Aaya and the Arabian song you had posted earlier.

Re: # 111
DM , no offhand I cannot think of any direct Yiddish folk influences. There are some from the Lebanese composers (Rahbani brothers) and these are more North African but close enough to resemble Havaa Nagila.
The interesting thing is that Yiddish folk tunes may have also had some Roma influences and if you listen to Roma music it is very close to Indian folk. That isn`t very surprising of course.

# 110

I was wrong in this post. The Polish folk dance inspired tune is ``Dil tadap tadap ke keh raha hai`` not ``Julmi sang aankh ladi``. My mistake.

``Julmi sang aankh ladi`` is all Salil-da. What an incredible composer!!!

Re: # 107

Swarrier - Most of the Latin groups have great music and songs but I do not care much for their recent music videos. The videos I really liked were from 80s and 90s. I am not sure if you have every listened to Dixie Chicks and the video of their latest album, that is a classic. I love it. I love it as much as I detest Nur Jehan and many of her ilks. I find some of the Indians extremely naive when they expect the other side of the border to like each and every singer or poetical verse on this side. Sorry not all of us have the nationalists` bent of mind. Many of us nurture a global perspective than the disgusting traditional nationalistic approach. In any case, the jahilae` mutliq -- ``ignorant`` does not need to be clarified on anything. He seems to come from a background where people have no regard and understanding of a different point of view. What`s new? That`s the typical mindset of a jehadi -- from other side of the border though :) Chowk has enough of that cursed mindset from the Pakistani side. I am glad the other side is also showing its True Colors (great song by C.Lauper).

Re: # 109
I like the Dixie chicks, actually I liked them prior to 1993 when they were more bluegrass oriented and before Natalie Maines joined them and they went mainstream. I don`t know if the video you are talking about is about the song ``Not ready to play nice``. I like a more raw sound than they do now, and I have Shut up and Sing on my Netflix queue.

As for the Latin scene most of my experience is with folk bands like the mariachis of Mexico, not mainstream pop. And of course Brazilian stuff by Caetano Veloso, Gil, Djavan is etc is great. I particularly like the Tango , Milonga (Astor Piazzolla) from Argentina. More classically Hector Villa-Lobos.

Actually I used to be amazed at how Indian music directors seamlessly mixed music from South America, Spain, Portugal(Fado) with Indian folk tunes and produced lovely music. Salil Chowdhury for example picked up an old Polish folk dance to produce ``Julmi sang aankh ladi``, in Madhumati.
I think the advantage then was that pop music had not yet been ruled by the record companies that sell music to kids with disposable incomes, and more real music was available to experiment with. Real folk music is the life breath of all musical forms even of the classical variety.

I don`t think music directors today are less creative. However there is less variety and more uniformity because of pressures from record companies and less experimenting and therefore less inspiration. Or perhaps they are just too lazy to go out and search for the real folk music. But personally I think things are looking up, I am hearing good music in India today. Recently somebody had posted a pretty neat song from Pakistan on UP(unplugged).

Anyway winter is gone now and hopefully Harvard square will throw up some nice artistes again to while an afternoon away.

#98 by ranjit,

It is not a matter of India/Pakistan. Neither is it a matter of taste. It is the difference between connoisseurs and philistines. Only a few people won`t settle for anything less than a gourmet meal, while most will stand in queue quite happily for a McDonalds.

Re:ahmedmadani#105

Madaniji, sorry for that interact, but if you look at a few interacts back, Zahra was saying that she never liked the voice of Madam Nur Jehan. In fact she said she could not stand a single song by her. Think of that!! Pakistan has hardly produced a handful of artistes such as Nur Jehan, Malika Pukhraj, Roshanara Begum, Bade Ghulam Ali Khan etc. I had to jump in and as an Indian, defend Madam Nur Jehan`s rich legacy such as ``Mujh se Pehli si Mohabbat, Mere Mehboob na Maang``. Please tell me if I am wrong in calling her uncultured after that.

As far as Ustad Alladiya Khan is concerned, he was the doyen of Jaipur gharana and I believe he got the title of gaan samraat. If I am not mistaken, Kesarbai Kerkar and Mogubai Kurdikar trained under him. Unfortunately I dont believe Ustadji made any recordings that survive to this date.

Re: # 106 Good comments.
I wonder do American people get news of things going back at home ? What they think of evolutionary change demanded by lawyers and their suppression and sacrafices ? Americans stand by Lawyers or they hate lawyers and prefer khaki overlord ? ( bush is lawyer by training ?)