Violation of Civilians by the Army in Pakistan

Mohammad Shouka, I sympathize with you about the trauma that you and your family have suffered. Regarding how you will represent Pakistan, and concerning your feelings about the country, I must say to you that you have to distinguish between the country of Pakistan and the state of Pakistan. The state of Pakistan, presently captured by the army, is brutalizing the nation for the past 7 years. Treatment that has been meted out to you is what has been given to many people. The army has captured the assets of our country, bullied its institutions, harassed its people, silenced them, and terrorized them. Army rule does not belong to a positive future of Pakistan. We have to work together to end the ruel of the army and bring about self-rule. We will not get this handed to us on a plate.

I can`t believe a boy is pouring his heart out and everyone here instead of supporting him are further beating him down.

Mohammad shoukat go to http://www.lahorerealestate.com/ads/index.php post num: 31144 a guy called The real ali has posted what you have written on a forum which defense investors use to get information. The response to your misshape is huge. Your misshape has gotten voiced.

Fax your concerns to the following;
General Pervez Musharraf, President of Pakistan ++9251-9221388
Mr Shaukat Aziz, Prime Minister of Pakistan ++9251-9212866
Justice Rana Bhagwandas, Acting Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan++9251-9213452
Mr Mohammed Ali Durrani, Federal Minister for Information Development, Government of Pakistan ++9251- 9203740

When partition happened, every Muslim who migrated to Pakistan thought he would be a king there. So Price, its time for some humility

OK, in all honesty, I have no respect for Pakistan Army, especially at the Brigadier and above level. I think they are kanjars for the most part who make poor young folks go fight a jehad while their own chilluns are escoported to school be the batman.

Having said that, how different is your story from that of any other kid who got lightly tapped around by the police? Its just that in your country, Army is involved in domestic affairs hence it was involved in slapping you around. In case Pak Army had never taken over, the police would have come and done the needful.

So, what are you unhappy about?

That it was the Army and not the police that beat you up? If so, does it matter?

Or are you unhappy that you were beaten up? If so, how do you feel entitled to not getting beaten up by authority while living in Pakistan? Isn`t that a common enuff occurence?

I put my money where my mouth is..I have been beaten by police in india two different occasions. No problems. My expectation from police is that I will be beaten up. Such is life. Hence, because I want to live in dignity, I moved to America.

Lesson: Either get outraged whenever someone is beaten up in Pakistan. Or, if you think that is futile, accept that you will be beaten up. Or, move to America. U can live your life in dignity here.

Re: # 20
it is fair to be outraged about being beaten up. you can either move, and make your life, and make a contribution from abroad if you wish, or you can stay and try and change things.

[..Are we worse then Afghanistan and India?....]

Yes Sir. As a matter of fact your country is pig sty and a shit hole. If you were a woman I would have advised you to get yourself raped and may be Canadians will give you a visa.
(In other words, You mothafukk don`t get India involved in this .....No comparison assole..)

[is there any way to voice this?]

brother:
wrong forum!
join army!

take care of mom and bro.

RE: akbar, gm_007, colonel and dr_h


fauji chamchaaz....fauji kuttay hai hai

Re: # 17

wasif go lick your own tail.

Re: # 17

wasif go lick your own tail.

I completely agree with gmh on this, he/she nailed the problem. You think you got it bad kid, try wearing the shoes of people who are more intelligent than you and I but can`t afford to go to school. You really think that if you`d been born in a very poor family you`d be going to the same school?

The issue here isnt about them being right to abuse you and your family. The real issue is on ignorance on either side. Don`t get carried away by the status of your family, where you go to school, or where you live. Because quite frankly all this can change overnight.

Re: #11

That`s a new one, really. Got any scoop... or are you just regurgitating conspiracy theories, eh??

Do you know the name of this Colonel? I can get this information to Lt.Gen. Hamid Javed, the president`s chief of staff.

Re: # 10

Then who is gonna scout for the plots in DHA for General Sahib? Lahol wila Quwat. You are asking a cat to guard the milk.

reading stuff like this makes me want to move to India...oh wait a minute I live in England!
But sometimes in my moments of madness when i think i should go to pakistan and help the country with my technical skills I am brought down to earth by articles such as this.