Ahmer Muzammil March 26, 2007
#33 Posted by rf786 on March 29, 2007 5:25:48 am
Re: # 32
Dear PM,
To deny the obvious wud be stupidity, Moyo has achieved record breaking performances post conversion ie finding peace with himself and his surroundings. But, Moyo the cricketer was part of the Pak cricket team when he was not a Muslim and was always regarded as a class above the rest and was selected on his merit. Then again, form can come and go but class remains the same and that is what Moyo has. He may change religions but his classy batting prowess was and remains the same. Now you can make the assumption that it has suddenly improved post conversion, I will contend that its a statistical misnomer cause his performance was adversly impacted by extraneous factors had they not intervened this performance was always going to be there, it was just a matter of time.
As u may have gathered from my username Iam Arif Sunni, which is totally irrelevant for this discussion. Thanks.
Dear PM,
To deny the obvious wud be stupidity, Moyo has achieved record breaking performances post conversion ie finding peace with himself and his surroundings. But, Moyo the cricketer was part of the Pak cricket team when he was not a Muslim and was always regarded as a class above the rest and was selected on his merit. Then again, form can come and go but class remains the same and that is what Moyo has. He may change religions but his classy batting prowess was and remains the same. Now you can make the assumption that it has suddenly improved post conversion, I will contend that its a statistical misnomer cause his performance was adversly impacted by extraneous factors had they not intervened this performance was always going to be there, it was just a matter of time.
As u may have gathered from my username Iam Arif Sunni, which is totally irrelevant for this discussion. Thanks.
#32 Posted by PM on March 29, 2007 5:09:07 am
Mohtaram rf786 or rf786, esq. :-)
Yaar, this is too much of a reach:
``Mohd Yusuf or Yuhana are the same person/player. Here again we have to blame the Tablighees for denying Pakistan two-three years of Yuhana brilliance. Moyo (Yuhana) must have suffered tremendous pain and personal anguish during his conversion period thus the poor patchy form in that period.``
It`s true that ``we are all making assumptions based on our interpertations of events.``, but surely, interpretations should also give import to plausibility?
I mean, sometimes the obvious or more simpler explanation IS the true one. My own interpretation of Yuhana`s bad form (I don`t quite recall this patch, but I`ll take you on your word here) is that, yes, troubled by the implications of his impending conversion, he could not focus properly on his cricket. Having taken the leap, he was at peace wtih himself (no longer conflicted) and was thus better able to focus. For good measure, his conversion (it could have been to Buddhism and `produced` the same result, IMO) also helped him go beyond his earlier capabilities, as batting is a skill that is helped by a certain self-centeredness (not in the egotisitcal sense, though)
By the way, PM stands for Patrick Masih, so you know where I`m coming from. My personal religious convictions are quite irrelevant. :-)
Yaar, this is too much of a reach:
``Mohd Yusuf or Yuhana are the same person/player. Here again we have to blame the Tablighees for denying Pakistan two-three years of Yuhana brilliance. Moyo (Yuhana) must have suffered tremendous pain and personal anguish during his conversion period thus the poor patchy form in that period.``
It`s true that ``we are all making assumptions based on our interpertations of events.``, but surely, interpretations should also give import to plausibility?
I mean, sometimes the obvious or more simpler explanation IS the true one. My own interpretation of Yuhana`s bad form (I don`t quite recall this patch, but I`ll take you on your word here) is that, yes, troubled by the implications of his impending conversion, he could not focus properly on his cricket. Having taken the leap, he was at peace wtih himself (no longer conflicted) and was thus better able to focus. For good measure, his conversion (it could have been to Buddhism and `produced` the same result, IMO) also helped him go beyond his earlier capabilities, as batting is a skill that is helped by a certain self-centeredness (not in the egotisitcal sense, though)
By the way, PM stands for Patrick Masih, so you know where I`m coming from. My personal religious convictions are quite irrelevant. :-)
#35 Posted by myt1967 on December 27, 2007 9:45:37 am
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