The Hypocrisy of the Indian Leftists

U missed Pushyamitra Sunga, Parasurama.......

Tell me why the north Indian saadhus prefer to add Maharaj to their names, Jangy?

krishna yar, there is documented shyte that brahmins wrote paens to everyone from khiljis, lodhis, bahamanis and anyone who would grant income from 5 villages towards upkeep of the ``temple``. why duck from that..satyameva jayate no? regarding sulabha shastra i know my brahmins..nooone knows it...again pls..remember satyameva jayate, ask the dude who does oooom keshavay namah, madhavaya namah govindaya namah, he wont know the difference between sulabha sutra and the nada of his langot.

otherwise i think we are in agreement, that brahmins although educated in shastras and puranas were ignorant about simple things like plumbing .. they knew the injuctions against cooking during menses in details but knew nothing about delivering calves and therefore ``oursourced`` it. in short, they were idiot-savants, had little knowledge of the world they lived in.. eseentially they lived in cuckooland dominated by panchagavya.

its it absurd for you to state that brahmins were not warriors....birbal (who died in battle), peshvas, rani laxmibai and last but not the least mangal pande were all brahmins.

#97 by bbabu

[There are a few groups like Askenazi Jews who do have a higher genetic component for intellectual and business success. ]

So since are you saying that Askenazi Jews are genetically superior to others, you believe in the theory that some races are genetically superior to others.

Hmmm.... How about Brahmins then? Could they also be genetically superior to others?

#89 by jang

[ none of them knew anything about the famed sulabha sutra of apastambha....]

How did this piece of information reach your so-called brain? Considering the fact that the first time you heard of sulabha sutras was a couple of days ago?

[or method of delivering a baby based on susrutas writing..heck none of them could deliver a calve of our revered dear gau-mata, they needed to call the kurmi to do that job]

Yes. That kind of job was to be outsourced to the likes of your forefathers.


[ they needed the western education and light to set them free and suddenly they talk of merit. ]

Set them free from what, bonehead?

#87 by Folio

[Jang,

That`s too cruel on ur part. ]


Jang being ``cruel`` to brahmins is like the Islamists on welfare in UK being ``cruel`` to Blair.

I`m sure Blair is begging them not to be ``cruel`` to him. :-)

#86 by stuka

[Actually merit is over-rated. If it was a merit-based workd, I would not have the luxury of browsing the web during work hours and getting paid for it. ]


If it was a merit-based world, you would not have a job to begin with.

#83 by jang

[#82 its only among madrassis you have brahmin and non-brahmin names...]

Wrong again, dickhead. There are Brahmin and non-Brahmin names in every part of India.


[anyhoo..for all the fluffing of the sacred thread, if you look at the history of last several centuries, brahmins have utterly failed the nation of bharat, considering they were at the top of the social-hierachy and therefore had the bully-pulpit.
- they capitulated to the invading hordes readily.... ]

Brahmins were in the teaching profession, shithead. It is your grandfathers who were the indentured laborers in the armies that failed against the pedophile-philic hordes.



[- they added nothing in the ``hard sciences`` and infact even lost important things like old mathematical works....]

It is true that Hindu religion and learning were suppressed by the pedophile-worshippers, but that it only because your grandfathers and grandmothers aided and abetted them.


[until the westerners came around and started exploring. all they did was regurgitate the shastras and the puranas ad-nauseum. ]

And what did the westerners do after they were done exploring, numbnuts? Tell the Brahmins what they were already ``regurgitating`` ``ad-nauseum``?


[- they contributed nothing to engineering of canals, architecture, masonary, agriculture, animal husbandary and other important human endevours which improve life-style instead talked about world being maya, so give me some alms. ]

We Brahmins usually leave things like cutting canals, animal husbandry, masonry etc. to your types, so that it improves our, the Brahmins`, life styles. :)


[- they expressly retarded naval and other explorations by figuring out injuctions from shastras about crosing of the oceans. nooone dared cross the ocean (and come back) to face a cleansing gau-mutra shower. ]

So are you saying your forefathers were cowards on top of being brain-dead? That`s a good excuse for not doing anything, and not having any achievements. :)


[so i think they should shut-up about achievements..sorry, if aryabhatta wrote some postulates, that does not count..its like jeemax harping about some old kaliph. what matters is brahmins DID NOT propagate that knowledge to do anything useful..]

There is a difference between pure mathematics and applied mathematics, shithead. 90% of the material in the doctoral and post-doctoral research in pure mathematics going on in universities around the world today will not be applied to anything useful anytime soon.


[in short, large percentage of brahmins were obsessed by this kinda shyte, leaving the society to dogs.]

It is true that we Brahmins were into the teaching and priestly professions, and therefore left the running of the society to people like your great-great-grandparents, but I did not want to characterize them as ``dogs``. But hey, it`s a free country. If you want to call your grandparents ``dogs``, who am I to prevent you from speaking the truth out loud? :)

[so, while brahminical character is (scholarship, cleanliness, dispassionate apporach etc) is honorable, brahmins as a group deserve no special respect IMO... for them to DEMAND it is really amusing. ]

Exactly WHERE did Brahmins DEMAND special respect, eh, dalit-nutcase? And if they indeed did DEMAND it, why were your ancestors cowardly enough to bow to it? I`ll tell you why. It`s because you guys have always been gutless, spineless, brainless achievement-less cowards.

From LONG BEFORE any Brahmin ever came into your land.

#80 by okhla99

[Extremely intellgent Harimau & the other Brahmins,

This refers to post #69 where you have tried to poke fun at other people (presumably SC/ST/OBC) who got names of primary colours wrong.

HOWEVER, dear intelligent Harimau,
the primary colours are Red, BLUE & Yellow as any SC/ST/OBC child will tell you. You appear to have your facts all mixed up. May be the OBC theory of colours is right and maybe your gang does happen to be wrong.Or may be you need to refer to your sacred texts. Wearing your sacred thread, of course.

Regards.]


I think before trying to refute something that an ``Extremely intelligent`` Brahmin has written, you should do a bit more research.

#78 by masanamuthu

[Also that list was not given my me. It is from your other Brahmin buddy ``abcd``. He told that we need to look at that list and then read ``guns, germs and steel`` to know about the technological breakthroughs of Brahmins.. Unfortunately, we could not find much in either.. ]


The minimum prerequisite is to be able to understand what you read.

Here`s what I wrote:

There is no reason (that we know so far) that any group of human beings cannot achieve just as much as any other group, except for cultural differences arising out of myriads of reasons. There`s an interesting book on this topic - Guns, Germs and Steel - that won the Pulitzer prize - that attempts to answer questions about why some societies have succeeded better than others.



Where in there did I mention that that book would enlighten you about ``technological breakthroughs of Brahmins``?

Eh?

#76 by masanamuthu

[ROFL.. our (BC/MBC/SC/ST) records have been lost too.. we invented the whole concept of mathematics and our records are lost in oral translation.. Go figure. :-) ]

Yes. This is why BC/MBC/SC/STs have traditionally done so well in the sciences. Just like the Brahmins. :)


[Atleast the Ku-Klu-Klan (white supremacists) have a point. All the innovations / inventions that have benefitted the human society were developed by White predominantly Christian men.. But these ``caste supremacists`` have just ``tall claims`` to back them up.. ]

Wrong. That`s your inferiority complex talking. In the pre-industrial age the majority of the scientific achievements were by non-Europeans.


[we have just got the opportunity, ask me back in 4000 A.D ( :-) ) we just started, our list will at least bigger than yours.. ]

That is very convenient. But of course, it is a lie.

Nobody was stopping your ancestors from developing their own theories of mathematics, arts and sciences. Brahmins, and later on caste, came into your ancestors` societies, especially in South India, only relatively recently.

What were your ancestors doing for the thousands of years BEFORE that?

Any answers?

Babu,

How does it matter if Hari writes for a particular pov? He has his life experiences and may be finding the new Indian realities quite unpalatable.

He has his own welfare in mind not the whole India`s. That way we cant find fault with him.

Best.

Re: # 101

Reservations or no reservations - I see an incentive to study and work hard throughout my life.

I would not get upset over harimau. he has a narrow point of view. you won`t hear from harimau about a lot of issues.

Re: # 80
Okhla
Actually Red Green and Blue violet are the additive primary colours from the point of view of physics and colour perception. The human eye contains only three types of colour receptors. It is possible to independently stimulate them using these wavelengths and thus provide many variations.

Red Blue and Yellow were coined as primary colours prior to this because it was believed that mixing them could produce all the other colours. They are still the primary colours when used by artists and painters.

This is what I know.

Sacred threads are normally white. It encompasses all colours I am told. -)

Bbabu,

I am not saying that u are a supporter of DMK.

The way some guyz say here is very amazing....knowledge is not the preserve of some groups.....there`s a saying......whoever worships Saraswati gets her mercy/bounty.....i.e whoever sudies hard get rewarded.

.....some people here never learn the basics of life.

Re: # 98

I am not a big supporter of DMK or AIADMK. But I think MGR, Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi are a cut above their counterparts in the North. Their caste based reservation policies are misguided.

Life is about priorities. You need to prioritize problems correctly to get ahead in life. If you look at the lives of people in Tamilnadu or lives of Tamilnadu Brahmins caste based reservations are somewhere in the middle of the list.

Harimau may whine about all those Brahmins who missed admissions to government funded engineering and medical colleges. At the end of the day most smart Brahmins figure out a way to survive.

Re: # 91

You are stereotyping people out of spite. Most of the OBC/SC/ST I know have names with a Sanskrit base.