With or Without Musharraf – A Mohajir’s Perspective

#396 Salim Mian

Thanks for your kind words.

#403 Salim Mian

Trust me, I have supported Mirzaais in the past with all the honesty of my heart.
If, you go through some old articles written by Ahmedis, you`ll see my staunch stand for them.
My best firend right from my childhood was Ahmedi, she never ever uttered any sort of disrespect for our Prophet(PBUH).

She strongly believed in Prophet(PBUH) as a last prophet. She never stated that Mirza Ahmed was a Prophet. She told me that Mirza Ahmed was their religious leader only.

I never have had any problem with her or with her family.

I strongly believed that this is the foundation of being Muslim.........[[ You have to believe Prophet Mohd.(PBUH) as the LAST Prophet]].

If, you do not believe that Prophet Mohd(PBUH) was the last Prophet and if, you disrespect prophet Mohd(PBUH), like almost all mirzaais have had been doing on this web site in the most derogatory way possible.

I stood up for my Prophet Mohd(PBUH)..................and got the vilest abuse possible from all chowk mirzaais and their female close friends.

These chowk mirzaais openly posted that they do not believe Prophet Mohd( PBUH) is the last prophet and that Mohd(PBUH) was a false prophet and they called HIM(PBUH) the worst names possible.

How can I call these mirzaais , Muslims? No, my dear friend, I can not.

Yes, I will ALWAYS stand up for their rights as a minority just like anyother minority(including Christians,etc, etc, etc)...................

Sorry, I can not compromise on this issue. I hope you understand my stand. And, I hope we both agree to disagree on this specific issue with clear understanding and with respect and admiration for eachother.

Thanks again for your kind posts for me.

#414 HP {``The Indus civilization provided the first Planned cities to India. While people in UP still cannot figure out how to drain water from ``Dagra``, and take bath in Talaabs- Moenjo dero already had separate baths and sewerage system in place. ``}

HP,
And isn`t it ironic that latter-day Greeks and Arabs like you, Atif2, and Ali_1 ridicule the Dravidians of South India, the likely descendants of the advanced people of Moenjo Daro.

#422 by hamidm2 on April 14, 2007 10:56am PT
Re: # 411
salim mian,
....... in spite of your current attempt at creating a tempest in a lota, jousting with windmills and unnecessarily inflicting bjkumar on the rest of us, you are a good man``}

Hamidum Sahib,
Forget BJ Bhayya and his drug-induced situation, but why are you playing the role of Sancho? :) Miguel de Cervantes would have been proud of you.

#414 HP {``When pigs used to roll in dust in UP``}

HP,
What do you mean by ``used to?`` Just visit Unplugged at anytime and you can observe the pigs, including you, rolling in all kinds of filth. :)

Re: # 411

salim mian,

....... in spite of your current attempt at creating a tempest in a lota, jousting with windmills and unnecessarily inflicting bjkumar on the rest of us, you are a good man and i can see why zeena beti is smitten by your charms :)

HP,

The posters u posted are very impressive.

Does anyone have any input on the refugees from Pakistan to India. How many moved to India and where they are moved to? Why are we not seeing any issues from the migrants to India? Is it because they are spread all over the country?

One of my colleagues grand parents moved from West Punjab to Delhi. He told me they came to India with empty hands and built their lives all over again. I don`t see any bitterness in my colleague about partition and the hardships his grand parents had to go through.

Since we are talking about ethnicities, i have another question.

Once i asked my Pathan room mate about not seeing many Sindhi Pakistani`s in US univ`s. He replied back saying that Sindhi`s do not like to leave their villages and are only good at agriculture. He told me whenever a Sindhi leaves his village on a trip to the city, entire village comes to his house to say bye. His answer was totally different from what i know about Sindhi`s in India. They are very good at business and have business interests all over India. I am interested to know little more about Sindhi`s in Pakistan. Anyone care to share some inputs?

Add on:

A story abt Sindhis.

Q: What wud u do if u encounter a krait (deadly snake) and a Sindhi.

A: One must kill the Sindhi first and then deal with krait later.

#416 by Folio on April 14, 2007 10:20am PT
HP,

I am not talking abt Uttar Pradesh.

Btw, if u dont know, I dont have good opinion of Uttar Pradesh. Period. I dont have good opinion of Sindhis as well. Most of the SIndhis are frausters. Abt the neatness in Karachi, I have a good collection of photos on Karachi`s `fragrant` streets and roads.

In Bombay these Sindhis make goods marked as `made in USA` and sell them in Bombay markets at a premium. Any gullible buyer wud take these articles blindly but the USA means Ulhasnagar Sindhi Association.

HP,

I am not talking abt Uttar Pradesh.

Btw, if u dont know, I dont have good opinion of Uttar Pradesh. Period. I dont have good opinion of Sindhis as well. Most of the SIndhis are frausters*. Abt the neatness in Karachi, I have a good collection of Karachi`s `fragrant` streets and roads.

In Bombay these Sindhis make goods marked as `made in USA` and sell them in Bombay markets 4 a premium. Any gullible buyers wud take these articles blindly but the USA means Ulhasnagar Sindhi Association.

412,

I am just reminded of how Ajmer clergy asked Indian PM asking him to `solve` Kashmir issue. What do they mean by `solve` Kashmir issue?

i/o

I am just reminded of how Ajmer clergy asked Indian PM asking his `solve` Kashmir. What do they mean by `solve` it?

When pigs used to roll in dust in UP, CP and Bihar- sindhi and Punjabi were putting the pieces together for the so called Indian civilization.

The Indus civilization provided the first Planned cities to India. While people in UP still cannot figure out how to drain water from ``Dagra``, and take bath in Talaabs- Moenjo dero already had separate baths and sewerage system in place.

Now the Bombay railroad tracks were made popular by Behram but no one talks about
`` Jungle phirna`` a morning ritual in UP, CP and Bihar....

Here is some UP poetry for the enlightened:

Kothay kothay phir Aiy kaheen na paya main nay Lota
Sayean tera Raj main maeen na kabhi na pahna Gota!

KC, What u dont know abt UP? It`s where u find the underworld of Chowk. Names are irrelevant. U know all those underworld people on UP.

KC,

I saw a pix where Lahoris are celebrating the birth centenary of Ambedkar. It`s a shock when I saw it coz they dont celebrate Ahmed Shah Abdali`s birthday. When it comes to the establishment, it`s exactly the opposite. All their misslies are named after the invaders of India.

I am just reminded of how Ajmer clergy asked Indian PM asking his `solve` Kashmir. What do they mean by `solve` it?

The hoi polloi in Kashmir still carry their Brahmin surnames but these Pak lovers tell us `solve` Kashmir! Sorry KC, we have everything in common except religion. Many a time we ignore this but lest we ignore the raison d`etre of Pakistan. We shud not be fooled by the shine of the apple......remember the deadly pin hidden in it. That cud kill us.

I am honest abt Kashmir and the issues linked to it.

#388 hamidum2 {``are you suggesting that the impecunious class of people who cannot afford the good seats are somehow lesser human beings ?``}

Hamidum Sahib,
You misunderstood me, kind sir. I was merely stating that people of limited resources tend to be the majority in a stadium and do display the most emotion, the most excitement, the most noise and some players like to cater to them for applause and adulation. Of course, one could attribute the behavior of this audience as an attempt to get the most bang for their buck. More importantly, your excessive indulgence will lead you to impecuniousness. :)