With or Without Musharraf – A Mohajir’s Perspective

Chowk Staff:

Please read interact # 705 by zeemax. He says `` you shit `` .
Kindly remove him from this website as soon as possible to guarantee the integrity of this
website.

Respectfully submitted

number

Re: # 716

You turd,

Zeemax is right. A fool like you accepts posts like #248 without a whimper.
And runs crying & wailing to mommy at the earliest...

Re: # 720

You are mistaken. #248 belongs to sanatani.

#713 Number

(add-on)

However, if you read #706 again, no response has been sought from you. :)

Thank you and enjoy your walk down the garden path! :)

#713 Number

BJ Kumar

#704

Dear Dr. Asadulla,

(Kindly forgive my lack of competence in Urdu)

Iss anjuman mein aap-ko
Aana hai baar-baar
Deewarey-dar ko gaur se
Pehchan lijiye...!

Re: # 706

Dear Mr. bjkumar:

I will respond to your interact after you tell me who you are. It is only fair since you know who
I am. If you do not want the world to know who you are, you may e-mail me:
asadulla@vsnl.com

Respectfully submitted

Syed Asadulla, Ph.D

#704 by number,

I know who you are. You`re a mehdiite for someone you call mehdi buried near Kabul or thereabouts ... you shit ..

Re: # 705

I will respond to your interact after you tell me who you are. It is only fair since you know
who I am. If you do not want to tell the world who you are, you can tell me via e-mail:
asadulla@vsnl.com

#702, Dear Dr. Asadulla Sahib,
I think that more and more people are associating the word ``ISLAMIST`` with those who want to redefine everything in terms of their perception of ``ISLAM.`` Especially, it refers to people who want ``ISLAM,`` as defined by them, to govern everything including government, laws, economics, entertainment, dress, customs, marriage, behavior, education, and even sports. These people tend to be very vocal and consider force, including violence, as legitimate means to attain their goals. I consider it to be a negative word, because it uses a positive term such as ISLAM to mutilate it into a justification for evil. :(

Re: # 703

Dear Mr. Chauhan:

Thanks for telling me what ISLAMIST is. I am a muslim and not an ISLAMIST.

Regards,

Syed Asadulla, Ph.D

Salim Mian


For your big SUCCESS on front page.

Will look forward for another article by you on front page.

Take care

As we conclude this forum, I want to thank ALL the participants for their excellent feedback, interesting viewpoints, and useful suggestions. Also, I enjoyed hosting this dialogue and want to express my gratitude and surprise at the mostly polite, civil, and thoughtful exchange. Khuda Hafiz, Namastay, and Till we Meet Again. :)

Here is what I find so amazing. Many Pakistani Punjabis want to stress that Mohajirs have never had it so good. Mohajirs dominate Pakistan. Urdu has been ``forced`` upon the rest of the country. Mohajirs should stop complaining, and in fact, return most of what they have ``unfairly`` amassed in Pakistan - including their underserved education and literacy. :)

Mohajirs, OTOH, complain about the unfair quotas that pit rural Sindh against urban Sindh. They stress that no such urban/rural divide exists in Punjab, NWFP, and Baluchistan. Mohajirs make a big deal out of the fact that the Pakistani Army Rangers, mostly Punjabis, were cruel, bloody, insensitive, and very biased in the way they occupied Karachi and Hyderabad. The Punjabis punished the local Pakistanis, mostly Mohajirs, with collective punishments and cruelty reminiscent of the acts of another generation of Punjabi soldiers in East Pakistan.

Maybe the truth lies in the fact that partition was the evil that split up a cohesive Punjab and brought together two distinctly separate people who had no business coming together. :(

#697 by chaudhary on April 20, 2007 1:49pm PT
Re: # 674
{``Mr Chauhan, be thankful to Allah for He gave you the opportunity to prosper in Pakistan. “TAHZEEB” you and your ancestors cherished so much was not even yours. Hindus persecuted Muslims of Bihar and UP for centuries. Muslims were humiliated throughout the history of that area, with the exception of 5 years of Sher Shah Suri’s rule in your part of the country. ``}

Mr. Chaudhary,
I don`t know which history books you have been reading, but I have not read of the humiliation of Muslims at the hands of Hindus in UP and Bihar. From the conquest of Awadh all the way to 1857, Muslims ruled this area and, with some exceptions, had excellent relations with their Hindu neighbors - Wajid Ali Shah and others come to mind. In the 1700s and early 1800s there were some struggles against Mahrattas who invaded from central India. I don`t know what you mean by TEHZEEB not being ours, but then you seem to be bent upon some specific preconceived agenda.

{`Please compare the situation your ancestors lived in India with the position you are holding in Pakistan. You have been dominant part of the Pakistani establishment for the last 60 years. You enjoyed special privileges whether civil or military rule.
Think about how you grab the resources of Pakistan.``}

Once again those who persecute us are adamant on telling us how fortunate we are and how good we should feel. :) Your attitude, along with some other Pakistani Punjabis, is so similar to the Serbs who ran concentration camps in Bosnia, and told western reporters how ``fortunate`` the Muslim inmates were for their superior treatment by the Serbs.

{``Most recent example is 4 New Engineering Universities, three in Karachi and one at Jamshoro. The cost will be about $2.33 billion. Take note of 2.33US$. Pakistan`s Sindh provincial government will provide the land and the Higher Education Commission will bear the cost of the infrastructure. Could you ever dream of having this special treatment in Bihar or UP. Just check Muslim literacy rate in your parent states and think about the misuse of the power entrusted to you by Liaqat Ali Khan. Would you allow interior Sindhis access to these universities? ``}

I am sure that the unfair quotas that pit urban against rural Sindhis will hold sway once again, regardless of how many universities are opened up. We don`t have to dream about education - we believe in it. Don`t forget that the Muslims of UP started the first and most noteworthy private Muslim institution of learning at AlighaRh and yes they allowed many Punjabis to study there. :)

{``Mind it, ``Higher Education Commission`` is a federally funded institution. So much investment for one ethnic group, at the cost of the rest of the people of Pakistan, and you still whine about your rights. ``}

So, we have no problems in Pakistan. Those ``stranded`` in Bangladesh are actually ALL ``Biharis`` from India and they just want to come to Pakistan because Pakistan is the greatest country in the world. ``) Once you vehemently deny Pakistanis, whose only fault is that they are like the Mohajirs of Karachi, you alienate ALL of us and we recognize you for the racist, bigoted, and unfair people that you are. While YOUR cowardly army came back in shame but still alive, thousands of Mohajir ``razakaars`` faced Bengali justice and punishment for the sins of the surrendering Punjabi soldiers. Shame!

##688 ranjit {``A secular system would have a legal sytem derived from that common value system, but would not give any one sect or sub-sect supremacy, so that other sects do not feel like they have a second class status. I think Salim is referring to such a secular system. ``}

Ranjit Bhai,
Thank you for your excellent response and saving me from charges of blashpemy and atheism. :) I could not have defended myself any better.