Talibanization of Pakistan

#110 by zeemax

I know where you are coming from. You are right these stakeholders are the ones who make our life worth living. Where as the picture of those baton-wielding Jamia Hafsa undergraduates makes you desirous of heaven. Bibi aaj maaf kur do.

P.S. my abilities to post pictures or highlight stuff on chowk is woefully lacking.

#131 by hamidm2

“hope the world has seen the last of the neville chamberlains and this time it will not wait till it is too late”

Ditto! We shall not yield, we will fight them on land, on the high seas (not to worry they are scared of water and don’t know how to swim) in the air (despite their army of green angels and jinns). We shall not surrender, not give them a penny of dhimmi tax, not allow these self professed purdhans of God’s will to infringe on any of our freedoms. We wont even give them an inch of our pak sir zameen to maintain their napak cult.

I think Pakistan needs to turn some province into a mullahistan and deport all those who want sharia to that place.





`Those interested in dance should go to India`
[21 Apr, 2007 l 1551 hrs ISTlPTI]



ISLAMABAD: Notwithstanding the nationwide rallies which are being held against attempts to enforce strict Islamic law here, a radical cleric has said that dance and music would not be permitted in Pakistan and those interested in these should go to India.

``We will not wait more. It will now be Sharia (law) or shahadat (martyrdom),`` said Maulana Abdul Aziz, one of the clerics of Lal Masjid who have threatened to impose the strict Islamic law in a month`s time in the capital.

In his Friday prayer sermon, he said those interested in dance and music should go to India, the media here reported.

Aziz vowed to enforce Sharia in the country even if the government did not itself do so, saying the Sharia would be enforced at any cost for which the whole nation should support the mosque`s management.

``We don`t need the government`s help for the enforcement of an Islamic system because we are capable enough to do it without its assistance,`` he said

His comments came as moderate political parties like Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM), Pakistan People`s Party (PPP) and human rights and women rights groups held massive rallies all over Pakistan, opposing threats by the Lal Masjid clerics and their supporters to resort to moral policing and impose Sharia law

To Kaalchakra:

Zindagi

Bar tar az andesha-e-sood-O-ziyaaN hai Zindagi
Hai kabhi JaaN aur kabhi tasleem-e-jaaN hai Zindagi

Tu issay Paimaana-e-Imroz-O-fardaa say naa naap
JavedaaN, Peha`m dawaaN, Har damm jawaaN hai Zindagi

Apni duniya aap peda kar agar zindoN maiN hai
Si`r-e-Adam hai, zameer-e-kun fikaaN hai Zindagi

Zindagaani ki haqeeqat Koh-kunn kay dil say pooch
Joo-e-sheer-O-teesha-O-sang-e-giraaN hai Zindagi

Bandagi main gha`T kay reh jaati hai ik joo-e-kamm aab
aur aazaadi maiN behr-e-bay karaaN hai Zindagi

Aashkaaraa hai yeh apni quwwat-e-taskheer say
garchaY ik miTTi kay paikar maiN nihaaN hai Zindagi

Qulzum-e-Hasti say Ubhraa hai tu maaniNd-e-Hubaab
Iss ziyaaN khaanay maiN teraa imtehaaN hai Zindagi

Emphasis is mine.

Regards

Manto mian,

(Pakistan can be an Islamic state based on Islamic principles ... but it cannot discriminate between its citizens on the basis of any religious beliefs... )

Exactly......this is what we wish Pakistan to be........

I appreciate your genuine thoughts and bold stand for Pakistan. Yes, Pakistan do need fine leaders like you........

Re: # 141

Posted directly from Lal Masjid.

#95 zeemax
RE:- zeemax ji
Good idea......

#91 rf786 madam
Yes, I lost it...........b/c my views don`t fit to your mind............LOL

#132 by hamidm2,

.....as Maulana Ghazi was frank enough to admit, democracy is irrelevant.``

This remark represents a typically ignorant and condescending attitude. Maulana Ghazi did not frankly ``admit`` to anything. What he was doing was `frankly` stating a fact.

He is right. This kind of democracy is irrelevant in Islam. Islamists don`t even waste their breath discussing it.

#130 by GT Re: # 122 by zeemax:

The world is concerned, but not scared ....... not yet. Let us hope, for the welfare of all of us, that the world does not get scared.

Amen.

I hope this does not end up being included in the list of ``Famous Last Words``

This is a thought-provoking article.

one of the highways in the bay area has a sign an Adopt-a-highway sign by the ``Ahmediyya muslim community``...I can imagine what people like urstruly and welfare queen go through when driving over that stretch....

yal`all,

from irfan ahmed`s column in dawn :

`` Democracy is about elections. Islam is about selection.” He went on to elaborate that ignorant people did not know what was good for them, and therefore the educated elite had to show the way.This was in response to the reporter when he remarked that Islamic parties in Pakistan had never won over 13 per cent of the popular vote. And this is the paradox: fundamentalists benefit from democratic freedoms wherever they are available to them, and use them to impose their reactionary agenda on society. And wherever they do not get their way, they complain that they are being denied their democratic rights. If and when they achieve power, they deny their opponents these very rights at the first opportunity. For them, as Maulana Ghazi was frank enough to admit, democracy is irrelevant.``

Re: # 132

The late Maulana Maududi had also expressed similar ideas pre-partition and post creation of Pakistan JI was split into half on this contentious issue of election vs selection based on Islamic seniority.

Re: # 132

hamidm2:

Wait till the ghazis get hit by popular democracy ..... the first thing that they will get to realize is that `it` is indeed a pee-pee ..... and they should have taken their maid seriously a long time ago.

Re: # 132

so what is an errant `l` between friends .............

Re: # 130

GT,

.... i hope the world has seen the last of the neville chamberlains and this time it will not wait till it is too late - we don`t need another holocaust .............