Nadeem F Paracha April 30, 2007
#9 Posted by PapuPanwari on April 30, 2007 11:57:50 pm
Re: # 7
sowie man you are sick!!!
again all that crap what Inzi did .... huh
sowie man you are sick!!!
again all that crap what Inzi did .... huh
#8 Posted by HasanMahmood on April 30, 2007 11:38:08 am
I dont care if Madam Shamim was a devil in disguise. Jamai-e-hafza hos had no right to do what they did. The only reason why they are even alive is because it is Pakistan where there are people like you supportng these terrorists. No wonder people look at Muslims and laugh their asses off. Because of people like you. Those hos had no right to do what they did. Simple to understand - right. But I bet you that you have a twisted theory about how it is ok (probably because Musharaf is there and there is no democracy - lol).
#7 Posted by HasanMahmood on April 30, 2007 11:35:35 am
Re # 1
Vanguard,
it is extremely ignorant for you to say that India and Pakistan lost because of the same reasons. Here is the difference. First, India lost to a team who also won against some other good teams like South Africa. Plus Bangladesh has been playing first class cricket since the last world cup. Indian players also had a bad coach and decided to give Ganguly a chance again even though he and some other players were unfit.
Pakistan on the other hand lost because the lovely Inzimam wanted only dari walas or tableeghees in the team. Prime example is Rana and Imran Nazir; and if you tell me about the last inning Imran played against Zimbawe then you are extremely misguided. With no pressure, playing against a third-rate team, and giving 5 chances even i would have scored 160 runs. Think about it, if Imran Nazir`s chances were not dropped, Pakistan would have been out for 160-180 again; and might have lost to Zimbawe also. Secondly, stop arguing for the dari-walas. It is a fact that people cared more about preaching. Nobody is saying ``Dont pray``. What people have a problem with is this tableeghi mind-set where other players have no choice in this matter. Inzi was more like a maulana than a captain. Everyone knows that all they were interested in was to finish their 5 prayers daily rather than winning a match. Also, no matter what you say about Yunis, at least he has the guts to know that this tableeghi culture has put down its roots so deeply in the cricket team that he refused to accept the captaincy. of course he will tell the world that it is too much pressure but when tableeghis give you ultimatums and death threats, it is an easy way out.
Also please provide a reason as to why Junaid Jamshed (another dari wala a-hole) was always with the team or why a dari wala ahole Mushi baby (who was disqualified for betting) was an assistant manager.
I dont know if you yourself are one of those tableeghi animals but if you are not then at lease open your eyes to the realities. However if you are one of those so-called preachers who have a convulated idea of islam in your head then keep believing what you believe in....
Oh by the wya,
the article is great so vanguard if you think that Mushi is doing such a bad job then you must not remember the 11 years of Benazir and nawaz. I guess you are still not satisfied with the Surrey palace or the Raiwind Estate. You want them to loot everything from Pakistan - at least there will be the sham democracy so you can sit in with your gora friends and tell them how enlightened you are....
Vanguard,
it is extremely ignorant for you to say that India and Pakistan lost because of the same reasons. Here is the difference. First, India lost to a team who also won against some other good teams like South Africa. Plus Bangladesh has been playing first class cricket since the last world cup. Indian players also had a bad coach and decided to give Ganguly a chance again even though he and some other players were unfit.
Pakistan on the other hand lost because the lovely Inzimam wanted only dari walas or tableeghees in the team. Prime example is Rana and Imran Nazir; and if you tell me about the last inning Imran played against Zimbawe then you are extremely misguided. With no pressure, playing against a third-rate team, and giving 5 chances even i would have scored 160 runs. Think about it, if Imran Nazir`s chances were not dropped, Pakistan would have been out for 160-180 again; and might have lost to Zimbawe also. Secondly, stop arguing for the dari-walas. It is a fact that people cared more about preaching. Nobody is saying ``Dont pray``. What people have a problem with is this tableeghi mind-set where other players have no choice in this matter. Inzi was more like a maulana than a captain. Everyone knows that all they were interested in was to finish their 5 prayers daily rather than winning a match. Also, no matter what you say about Yunis, at least he has the guts to know that this tableeghi culture has put down its roots so deeply in the cricket team that he refused to accept the captaincy. of course he will tell the world that it is too much pressure but when tableeghis give you ultimatums and death threats, it is an easy way out.
Also please provide a reason as to why Junaid Jamshed (another dari wala a-hole) was always with the team or why a dari wala ahole Mushi baby (who was disqualified for betting) was an assistant manager.
I dont know if you yourself are one of those tableeghi animals but if you are not then at lease open your eyes to the realities. However if you are one of those so-called preachers who have a convulated idea of islam in your head then keep believing what you believe in....
Oh by the wya,
the article is great so vanguard if you think that Mushi is doing such a bad job then you must not remember the 11 years of Benazir and nawaz. I guess you are still not satisfied with the Surrey palace or the Raiwind Estate. You want them to loot everything from Pakistan - at least there will be the sham democracy so you can sit in with your gora friends and tell them how enlightened you are....
#5 Posted by Love2love on April 30, 2007 9:44:31 am
Ha, ha. Nice take on Mr. Imran Khan`s concieted attitude, NFP.
Btw, venguard, how does Aunty Shamim`s ``exposure`` vindicate Inzi`s religious zeal?
Btw, venguard, how does Aunty Shamim`s ``exposure`` vindicate Inzi`s religious zeal?
#4 Posted by vanguard on April 30, 2007 9:19:00 am
Well it turns out that Aunty Shamim was really running a brothel. From news item
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/137135.php/Brothel-owners-book-may-ruin-marital-lives-of-many-a-Pak-parliamentarian!
The book, to be published by the Oxford University Press, is written by Aunty Shamim, the brothel owner who claims to possess the richest clientele list of this sort in Pakistan. Her clientele includes majority of MNAs, besides senior Army officers and judges.
The news of Shamim publishing such a book has given driven down the spine of many such MNAs who fear that their names would be surely included in the book. The gravity of the situation could be gauged from the fact that the MNAs who sit on Treasury benches recently discussed the issue with none other Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz.
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/137135.php/Brothel-owners-book-may-ruin-marital-lives-of-many-a-Pak-parliamentarian!
The book, to be published by the Oxford University Press, is written by Aunty Shamim, the brothel owner who claims to possess the richest clientele list of this sort in Pakistan. Her clientele includes majority of MNAs, besides senior Army officers and judges.
The news of Shamim publishing such a book has given driven down the spine of many such MNAs who fear that their names would be surely included in the book. The gravity of the situation could be gauged from the fact that the MNAs who sit on Treasury benches recently discussed the issue with none other Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz.
#3 Posted by Ally on April 30, 2007 6:29:32 am
haha... quite funny, also very true... there are so many of these talk shows on pak tv... seems like pakis only good for one thing - talking!!!
#2 Posted by rf786 on April 30, 2007 3:04:48 am
Dear Vanguard,
Bbc (amreeka) will be running a documentary called Panorama this evening dont miss it, enclosed is a snippet from the same:
BBC claims tests show Woolmer was drugged
Cricinfo staff
April 30, 2007
A BBC television investigation into the death of Bob Woolmer, to be shown on Monday night, will claim that toxicology tests support earlier reports that he was poisoned before being strangled.
The Panorama programme will say that there is evidence of a drug being present in his system that would have incapacitated him.
``It now seems certain that as he was being strangled, he`d already been rendered helpless, leaving him unable to fight back,`` said Adam Parsons, the show`s producer. ``The specific details of that poison are now very likely to offer a significant lead to finding his murderer.``
Parsons` programme will also claim that while Woolmer had a good relationship with his players, there were deep religious divides inside the Pakistan team and that Woolmer was growing increasingly frustrated with the effect this was having on the side. An example given was that players left the field to be replaced by substitutes to enable them to pray during matches.
Pervez Mir, Pakistan`s media manager, said that there were players who preferred to ``pray not play``, and he revealed that his comments had led to him receiving death threats on his return home.
Panorama: Murder at the World Cup will be broadcast on BBC One at 2030 BST, Monday
#1 Posted by vanguard on April 30, 2007 2:25:40 am
There was a time when I used to look forward to NFP`s articles. Though he was a staunch critic at that time, yet his criticism was constructive in the sense that he pointed out the weaknesses.
It seems now that he has allied himself with Musharraf and is on a jihad against the Mullahs which may result in some good had it not been a rant.
It was obvious from day one that Pakistan team was not going to perform well in World Cup with wagers on whether they will exit in super 8 or semi finals. The only shock was that they exited earlier in the first round. What about India? They were supposed to bring the world cup if we follow the media frenzy. they met the same fate. Was it because they were praying to their Gods all the time. Or is it that we perform poorly in hockey because our hockey players are praying or wear knee length shorts because anything less would be unislamic. Why could not we rule squash after Jahangir and Jansher. Its because, the present lot prays five times a day and keeps a beard which sometimes hold the rebounding wall resulting in point awarded to the opponent.
Frankly speaking, your rant is no different than Jimran Khan
It seems now that he has allied himself with Musharraf and is on a jihad against the Mullahs which may result in some good had it not been a rant.
It was obvious from day one that Pakistan team was not going to perform well in World Cup with wagers on whether they will exit in super 8 or semi finals. The only shock was that they exited earlier in the first round. What about India? They were supposed to bring the world cup if we follow the media frenzy. they met the same fate. Was it because they were praying to their Gods all the time. Or is it that we perform poorly in hockey because our hockey players are praying or wear knee length shorts because anything less would be unislamic. Why could not we rule squash after Jahangir and Jansher. Its because, the present lot prays five times a day and keeps a beard which sometimes hold the rebounding wall resulting in point awarded to the opponent.
Frankly speaking, your rant is no different than Jimran Khan
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