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Reflections on the Virginia Tech School Tragedy

Khalid Sohail April 25, 2007

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#79 Posted by stuka on April 26, 2007 6:11:34 pm
``actually told indians, sri lankans and arabs to wear t-shirts with paki flags if they wanted to stay safe in the US..the premise being that Americans would be falling over themselves to thank the next paki they saw on the street..for Pakiland joining the war on terrorism...
``

HAR HAR...I remember that post....
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#78 Posted by arjun2 on April 26, 2007 6:06:23 pm
#36 by okhla99 on April 25, 2007 8:47pm PT

hey okhla dude...how`s it going?

Did you see how masadi starting calling the paki college that fired him a ``peon creating factory``...so before they fired him, he was merrily working in the same ``peon creating factory``...so it follows that masadi is a peon creator....
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#77 Posted by arjun2 on April 26, 2007 5:59:50 pm
#51 by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 6:34am PT



I hope that you will not be so judgmental of those who might not share your views of how US has been bad to the non-Americans.


You registered in 2003 so you`re unaware of capt clueless` history..in the days after 9/11, he was telling us how he was itching to give up his IT job and join the US invasion of Afghanistan..he even tols us pakis had it great in the US..actually told indians, sri lankans and arabs to wear t-shirts with paki flags if they wanted to stay safe in the US..the premise being that Americans would be falling over themselves to thank the next paki they saw on the street..for Pakiland joining the war on terrorism...

then the US started singling out pakis..and capt clueless migrated ``voluntarily`` to canada..and then canada became the great land where the jooos didn`t control the media and pakis got a fair shake(of course, he said this before the pakis in canada got busted for planning to behead the PM, Harper)...
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#76 Posted by arjun2 on April 26, 2007 5:53:43 pm
#67 by Naqshbandi on April 26, 2007 12:03pm PT



an interesting discussion going on about canada vs usa system of living. i think that a society should be judged on how equitable it is, how it treats the weakest and poorest members


Who made that law? The practitioners of the religion of peace? How about how saudi arabia, the keepers of islam`s sacred shrines, treats it`s weakest and poorest members...the immigrants...

wonder why the ROPers are silent about the saudi princes who spend vast amounts of money on drugs, hookers and gamblers in europe while the average saudi has seen his per capita income drop...
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#75 Posted by arjun2 on April 26, 2007 5:46:14 pm
#71 by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 12:33pm PT

Norway has a oil money pool that belongs to it`s citizens...

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#74 Posted by arjun2 on April 26, 2007 5:42:35 pm
Capt clueless is only extolling the virtues of Canuckistan because he was forced to move there post-9/11...

Canada: Because the US has standards..
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#73 Posted by thinkingstorm on April 26, 2007 5:00:47 pm
Okay...well I have lived in both US And Canada. I am Canadian, and have been living in the US for the past few years. I am also Desi.

I am with Kulharee on this one. US is much better then Canada in a lot of ways.

However, I guess if you are not young and ambitious, and just want a ``routine`` then Canada suits you well.

re: the myth that Canada welcomes immigrants. This is hog wash. Canadians tend to act all reserved and of course more evolved then Americans :). I have met very ignorant people in Canada, as well as US as well as in Europe, definately in the middle east, etc. (incidentally, I would never want to live in Middle East).

I found Americans (That I interact with) to be more open, welcoming, and friendly. There are less formalities, and you are more easiy accepted. (Of course I am in Southern California, so that may be one of the reasons for that as well). But Canadians are so ``tolerant`` that they are usually not welcoming to the hassle of being open to immigrants :)

Health Care sucks in both US and Canada. Canadians routinely fly out to US to get operations done. It is free but non-existant. Harmful. The US system is bad as well. You are reliant on insurance companies to make health decisions that affect your life. Lose-lose situation in both cases.

US sucks on the international area, as it is definately a bully. But Canada is just mentally challenged. It cannot makeup its mind about whether it is Socialist or Capitalist. It ends up being the worst of both.
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#72 Posted by jang on April 26, 2007 3:25:40 pm
i dont get this..why do pakis always come back to the square 1..good-ol amrica bashing? naqsh here is trying one report after another and keeps finding us in top few. NYC is like the bestest city in the world .. just the other day i said hi to tony bennett on central park west..he was walking without anyone harassing him..the rich and the poor (tony and the tangeywala taking tourist sowaris for 40 bucks) were happily co-exising together. why are the pakis getting azzburn?
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#71 Posted by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 12:33:53 pm
Re: # 69

Naqshbandi,,, the countries above the US in the HDI -- ummm… countries as homogenous as Japan…. Norway… Sweden….. how about we send all the unhappy troopers to Norway? You cant compare something like Norway to the US. Norway will move to the last place if 18% of it’s population was immigrants. Total immigrant population in Norway is less than a medium size ethnic neighborhood of NYC. Please show some respect to the US. Thanks.

There is no other place like the US. Why is the UK so far down the list?
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#70 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 26, 2007 12:32:48 pm
this is a fairer measure for the OECD nations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Poverty_Index#The_human_poverty_index_for_developing_countries_.28HPI-1.29

The US now ranks bottom of the 16 countries.

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#69 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 26, 2007 12:17:00 pm
``Each year since 1990 the Human Development Report has publishedthe human development index (HDI) that looks beyond GDP to a broaderdefinition of well-being. The HDI provides a composite measureof three dimensions of human development: living a long and healthylife (measured by life expectancy), being educated (measured byadult literacy and enrolment at the primary, secondary and tertiarylevel) and having a decent standard of living (measured by purchasingpower parity, PPP, income). The index is not in any sense a comprehensive measure of human development. It does not, for example, include important indicators such as inequality and difficult to measure indicators like respect for human rights and political freedoms.`` -HDI report 2006
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#68 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 26, 2007 12:13:01 pm
Human Development Report 2006 (latest available)

I stand corrected, the US ranks 8th overall but still lags behind most EU countries in many areas.
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#67 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 26, 2007 12:03:18 pm
an interesting discussion going on about canada vs usa system of living. i think that a society should be judged on how equitable it is, how it treats the weakest and poorest members and on those counts the USA is far far behind the countries of western Europe which offer a great social security blanket, free healthcare and free education and are much fairer as a result.

i work with many teachers from the US and they say they have a much higher standard of life here than in the USA where they tell me all the trillions of dollars of wealth is only for the top 10% or so and where the rest have to struggle, often doing 2 jobs, just to survive.

With my professional background i could go to the USA and probably earn more than i do in Europe but i wouldn`t want to be part of such a purely capitalist, dog-eat-dog society.

i havent been to the USA or to Scandinavia but I`d say that Scandinavian countries are the fairest of them all. Most UN Quality of Life/HIDI Indices are dominated by the EU in the top 10 positions along with the Canadians and Aussies.
America ranks quite down the table despite its immense wealth.
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#66 Posted by jang on April 26, 2007 11:19:09 am
kulharee yar, my workplace and many towns in new england are full of economic refugees from canada that they have become french-canadian ghettos. i am very sure that they dont come here for the climate. they come for the 4 bedroom 2 car garage house with a yard.
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#65 Posted by drsohail on April 26, 2007 11:14:18 am
Re: # 63
dear ali...1....we all make some choices in our life, personally and professionally. i chose to

understand and help people with emotional problems....do you see any problem with that?

..i wonder what choices you have made in your life....

by the way i liked the pictures you presented...quite nostalgic from qissa khani bazar

peshawar. i wonder how it has changed in 20 years that i did not see it. when were you

there last?...smiles...sohail
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#64 Posted by drsohail on April 26, 2007 10:20:25 am
Re: # 61
thank you for appreciation...i went to your website and saw kamal ataturk as your hero....

how were you inspired by him...? sohail
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