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Reflections on the Virginia Tech School Tragedy

Khalid Sohail April 25, 2007

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#63 Posted by ali_1 on April 26, 2007 10:17:16 am
Dr. Khalid, why do you remind us of dentists like Dr. M. Naveed Akhter back in Peshawar? Is your middle initial ``Q``? as in the sound produced by ducks.....??

There will always be sick individuals who will kill innocent people for no apparent reason. Lots of pseudo analysts and head doctors will try to make a buck off the unfortunate situation.

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#62 Posted by drsohail on April 26, 2007 8:59:33 am
Re: # 57

dear kulharee....as far as mental health is concerned it is gradually progressing in canada

to become more inclusive and as i mentioned in one of my previous responses we are

translating mental health guide in different languages for families from different

cultures....sincerely sohail
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#61 Posted by MantoLives on April 26, 2007 8:51:33 am
KS,

Thanks for the article.
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#60 Posted by okhla99 on April 26, 2007 8:32:55 am
Re: # 52

Welcome brother Tahmed.

Genius-and-no-longer-peon-of-the west Masadi appears to have disappeared with his tail between his legs. :-)
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#59 Posted by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 8:28:50 am
Re: # 58

Bulleya Sahib (I am assuming what??), I work with numbers for living. I appreciate your thinking Canada is havens. Canada will be last place on earth I would like to live. Any place that is so class Folderol as much as Canada (second only to England) is not really good for anyone’s health. I can tell you how many Canadians come to NYC ‘city hospitals’ to get healthcare. You know what pisses the hell out of me is the Canadian’s fascination with the US. You will rarely see a news about Canada in the major newspaper here (over 90% Americans couldn’t name the Canadian PM even if their lives depended on it – yes yes, I know what you gonna say to that) but most Canadians seem to know more about the US than their own backyard. I honestly do not understand that allure.
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#58 Posted by bulleya on April 26, 2007 8:14:18 am
kulharee #: have you ever lived in canada? or are you just assuming?
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#57 Posted by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 7:36:06 am
Re: # 54

Dear Doctor Sahib, NYC is one of the safest bigger cities in the developed industrial world. Even within the US, it comes to #15 or something, compared to #1 some 25 years ago. But yes, crime does need to be brought under control. In terms of driving in the City, unless you are willing to pay a premium for parking (some places 30 bucks an hour) it is really hard to find parking on the street. It is not advisable, as the public transport in the city is fantastic… ride the subway for 2 bucks, or hail a cab. Much better than spending 10 hours looking for a place to park.

Now back to the discussion. Canadian system is a complete failure, monetarily, they are still living in the 60s, following the socialist models of the olden days, which have shown to be a complete failure, extensive red tape, incompetence, waste, just to the name a few. US states fare much better in terms of DGP per capita. US left Canada in the dust when Canadian didn’t chose to adopt what is referred to as Reagonomics. The standard of living in the US, State to Province basis is much much higher. Much much higher economic freedom. Not counting Ontario and Alberta, even the ‘richest’ Canadian Provinces have less GDP than the poorest of the poorest US States. Public education in the US is also free (financed by our property taxes). Americans volunteer more than any other country in the world, including Canada. There are more American NGOs than the rest of the countries of the world combined.

But let’s talk about mental health that is the purpose of this discussion. On which you have done a lot of work and research.
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#56 Posted by tahmed32 on April 26, 2007 7:07:00 am
Dr. Sohail #54 the trick in ny is to drive as if you are driving in lahore. then you are perfectly safe, because new yorkers drive the same way as they drive in lahore. as my father used to say, every city has its own ``driving culture`` and as long as you act accordingly you are fine. Thus, e.g., if in New York (or Lahore) you give the lane change signal before changing lanes, this will confuse everyone around you and cause a multiple-car wreck.

similarly for other things - when in rome, do as the romans do and you are perfectly safe.
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#55 Posted by tahmed32 on April 26, 2007 7:00:37 am
greetings brother zeemax. i am sure the madrassa girls would agree with mr. masadi that the world is ruled by darth vader and his 20 elites. :-)
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#54 Posted by drsohail on April 26, 2007 6:59:16 am
Re: # 50

dear kulharee....i am just sharing my opinion based on my experiences. you might have

different experiences. when i came to canada

....i felt welcome as an immigrant

.....i feel safe in big cities

.....canadians love to do voluntary work and serve their communities

....education is free in schools and there are many opportunities to take loans in colleges

and universities.

....most canadians are against war and only want to send army as peace keepers under the

guidance of united nations

....most canadians are humble people

when i visited new york to see my cousin he told me not to take my car to manhattan as it

might not be safe....

maybe small towns and cities in america are like canada....my experience is just in big

cities ....and my impression was that toronto and montreal and calgary are safer than

washington and florida and los angeles.....maybe i am wrong....sincerely sohail
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#53 Posted by zeemax on April 26, 2007 6:48:44 am
#52 by tahmed32,

Have the boys at the government college started tossing chalk...

Welcome tahmed saheb. I don`t know about the government college boys, but certainly the girls of some little madrassa do seem to agree with masadi saheb and his `elites` thesis :)
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#52 Posted by tahmed32 on April 26, 2007 6:43:20 am
The genius-and-not-peon-of-the-west Masadi is here I see. :-)


Masadi: Has the government college discovered your er...um....talents yet? Have the boys at the governmnet college started tossing chalk at your noggin when you turn your back to them to scribble on the board?

just curious....
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#51 Posted by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 6:34:03 am
Re: # 45

Bulleya Sahib… hats off to you for moving back (jitho di Khoti, Uthay aa Khaloti). I hope that you will not be so judgmental of those who might not share your views of how US has been bad to the non-Americans. While there might be a little truth to what you say, go and talk to some religious minorities in the land of Pak and see how they feel living there. You found your haven in a place that is full of contradictions, good for you. While they mill-grind their own minorities, the cabbies they export to other countries have much higher (or lower) tolerance of the US foreign policy. If you want to help your people and ‘give back’, may I suggest that you tell them that ‘their’ problem is not the US foreign policy, but illiteracy, healthcare, education, gender and religious equality for all, justice and law and order. Perhaps, unlike you who lived 15 years to figure out what place is good for him, they might not have to move out to begin with. In other words, do exactly the opposite of what Masadi Sahib is doing, who is spreading his hatred to whomever he comes into contact with.
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#50 Posted by Kulharee on April 26, 2007 6:18:40 am
Re: # 49

Dear Dr Sohail Sahib, most crime in the US is drug related. Stats can be really misleading. There are fewer ‘hate crimes’ in the US than in England for example. I am sure Canada is peaceful and all. Are there ghettos like in the Netherlands or England where migrants tend to form their own little societies, or have the first generation been fully assimilated in the Canadian society?

What exactly should the US learn from Canada? Can you name a few things? Canadian healthcare system is excellent as long as one is not sick. And by the way those 36 million people without any ‘health insurance’ are covered by either Medicaid (if they make less than certain in wages – it varies from State to State) and by Madicare, if they are over 65 and are lawful residents of the US. The debate about healthcare system is very complex in the US and no one outside seem to have a tiniest clue about it other than what they see in their little community newspapers found free on the bus stops.

But leaving that aside, what do you think the US can learn from Canada (other than Healthcare).
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#49 Posted by drsohail on April 26, 2007 5:32:11 am
Re: # 45

dear bulleya...thank you for sharing profound thoughts. making a difference even small

one and serving one`s community in particular and humanity at large is a noble gesture.

Canada is wonderful. I like their system of free health care. Every Canadian has a Health

Card as compared to America where 35 million have no Health Insurance. Canadians are

generally caring and compassionate. Although they are neighbours with America but there

is a big difference. One year there were nearly 15oo murders in Florida, New York and,

Washington out of which 80% were never arrested while in Toronto there were only 47

murders out of which most of them were found and tried. Unfortunately American influence

on Canada is increasing. I wished Americans learnt more from Canadians. I never lived in

America but I find Canada a peaceful country.

wish you all the best in your dreams...sincerely sohail
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#48 Posted by drsohail on April 26, 2007 5:15:40 am
Re: # 35

dear malikjahanzeb....thank you for your insightful comments. i will not compare cho with a

suicide bomber because one of the fundamental characteristics of serial killers and mass

murderers is a lack of political and religious motivation. they are not part of any political

party or religious organization.

i agree with you that if such people felt connected with a small group of people who were

kind and gentle and offered them a sense of belonging, it might decrease their sense of

alienation and might reduce their need to get negative social and media attention by

violence...sincerely sohail
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