Subhash Gatade May 6, 2007
#1 Posted by harimau on May 7, 2007 12:04:29 am
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#2 Posted by harimau on May 7, 2007 12:12:42 am
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#3 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2007 12:40:42 am
[[[Even a cursory glance at the action plan - which largely went unnoticed in the rest of the country - makes it clear that it has provided a free hand to the law and order people in the state to continuously harass minorities as part of their `mission` of countering terrorism. The next step then becomes catching hold of innocent people belonging to the minority community at regular intervals and bumping them offf supposedly to provide a post facto justification of the `success of the action plan`. ]]
Thank you dear writer...
This article has opened my eyes....so, there secular india....
India is a Hindu country. It was/is and never will be a secular country...
This is a false claim that Indians make.......this is called pseudo secular country with pseduo freedom of all religions......
It is saddened to see all those brutalities @ the hands of Hindu higher officials who slaughtered minorities just for their own fundo hinduism........
It is hurtful and tragic to feel the pain of those who were brutally murdered innecessantly ............all this blood shed of minorities exposed the real face of Hindu terrorism by hindu extremists................quite sad...sigh*
Thank you dear writer...
This article has opened my eyes....so, there secular india....
India is a Hindu country. It was/is and never will be a secular country...
This is a false claim that Indians make.......this is called pseudo secular country with pseduo freedom of all religions......
It is saddened to see all those brutalities @ the hands of Hindu higher officials who slaughtered minorities just for their own fundo hinduism........
It is hurtful and tragic to feel the pain of those who were brutally murdered innecessantly ............all this blood shed of minorities exposed the real face of Hindu terrorism by hindu extremists................quite sad...sigh*
#4 Posted by Prashant009 on May 7, 2007 12:42:15 am
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#5 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2007 1:07:44 am
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#6 Posted by muqaddam on May 7, 2007 2:01:30 am
It is infra-dig to comment on the trash that this MC (who is also a BC) keeps submitting here from time to time. Trust these types who literally thrive on reservations and then turn back on the hand that has fed them.
#7 Posted by harimau on May 7, 2007 2:57:26 am
Ref Zeena #5
[Razia, a Muslim woman, cries while praying near her destroyed home near Ahmedabad, on Saturday, March 2, 2002. Vengeful Hindu mobs torched Muslim homes, killing scores, and rioting spread through western Gujarat state Saturday as the death toll in India`s worst religious strife in a decade reached 408, officials said.]
You very conveniently forget the fact that a few days earlier a mob of Islamic Thugs set fire to a train carrying Hindu pilgrims in which 60+ men, women and children were burnt to death. That is what caused the Hindus to turn ``vengeful``.
[Poonam Ben weeps while searching for the body of her father-in-law at a morgue in a hospital in Ahmedabad on February 28, 2002.]
Poonam Ben would be a Hindu name.
Note the dates.
Poonam weeps for her father-in-law on Feb 28 and Razia cries next to her destroyed home on March 2.
Action. And Reaction.
We do not have Muslim sultans ruling in India anymore for Hindus to have to take things lying down.
You frikking minorities had better learn to walk with your tail tucked in between your legs. We won`t take so much as a `boo` from you.
[Razia, a Muslim woman, cries while praying near her destroyed home near Ahmedabad, on Saturday, March 2, 2002. Vengeful Hindu mobs torched Muslim homes, killing scores, and rioting spread through western Gujarat state Saturday as the death toll in India`s worst religious strife in a decade reached 408, officials said.]
You very conveniently forget the fact that a few days earlier a mob of Islamic Thugs set fire to a train carrying Hindu pilgrims in which 60+ men, women and children were burnt to death. That is what caused the Hindus to turn ``vengeful``.
[Poonam Ben weeps while searching for the body of her father-in-law at a morgue in a hospital in Ahmedabad on February 28, 2002.]
Poonam Ben would be a Hindu name.
Note the dates.
Poonam weeps for her father-in-law on Feb 28 and Razia cries next to her destroyed home on March 2.
Action. And Reaction.
We do not have Muslim sultans ruling in India anymore for Hindus to have to take things lying down.
You frikking minorities had better learn to walk with your tail tucked in between your legs. We won`t take so much as a `boo` from you.
#8 Posted by devkant on May 7, 2007 3:23:18 am
`#3 by Zeena on May 7, 2007 0:40am PT
This article has opened my eyes....so, there secular india....
India is a Hindu country. It was/is and never will be a secular country...
This is a false claim that Indians make.......this is called pseudo secular country with pseduo freedom of all religions...... `
we don`t need a certificate of secularism from anyone...more so from a paki woman who herself believes in fundamentalist views of her own religion. indian secularism, though not perfect is allive and kicking. you pakis do not have the right to point fingers at indian secularism.
coming to the fake killings, i am really happy that the govt has finally taken note of this disturbing trend amongst security forces. hopefully the on going trial of 2 IPS officers will send a strong signal to others not to think of themselves being immune from law.
rgds,
devkant.
This article has opened my eyes....so, there secular india....
India is a Hindu country. It was/is and never will be a secular country...
This is a false claim that Indians make.......this is called pseudo secular country with pseduo freedom of all religions...... `
we don`t need a certificate of secularism from anyone...more so from a paki woman who herself believes in fundamentalist views of her own religion. indian secularism, though not perfect is allive and kicking. you pakis do not have the right to point fingers at indian secularism.
coming to the fake killings, i am really happy that the govt has finally taken note of this disturbing trend amongst security forces. hopefully the on going trial of 2 IPS officers will send a strong signal to others not to think of themselves being immune from law.
rgds,
devkant.
#9 Posted by devkant on May 7, 2007 3:26:40 am
and the hypocricy of you paki muslims is so evident.
no paki muslim shed a tear for the 57 hindus which included women and childern that were torched by muslims fundoos. but if muslims are killed in revenge, you hypocrites line up to shed crocodile tears and point fingers at hindus.
talks a lot about your sickening mentality.
devkant.
no paki muslim shed a tear for the 57 hindus which included women and childern that were torched by muslims fundoos. but if muslims are killed in revenge, you hypocrites line up to shed crocodile tears and point fingers at hindus.
talks a lot about your sickening mentality.
devkant.
#10 Posted by Chennai on May 7, 2007 4:56:40 am
The Supreme Court is doing the right thing by increasing its vigilantism against political big-wigs who always felt that they were beyond the law.
I recommend the death penalty for Modi,Shah, The IPs officers and all overtly or covertly connected with the murder of an innocent woman, once proven guilty.
I recommend the death penalty for Modi,Shah, The IPs officers and all overtly or covertly connected with the murder of an innocent woman, once proven guilty.
#11 Posted by essel207 on May 7, 2007 5:07:48 am
Fake killings is not new to India or disappearences in Pakistan. Fake killings ( encounters)have been happening in not just Modi`s Gujarat, but Congress run Maharashtra, Jammu & Kashmir , Delhi and so on.
So let us not get carried away and thrash the favourite whipping boy- Modi-, but try and see where the real malaise lies. It lies in the power that the politicians and the police/ army have usurped to themselves in India, and more so in Pakistan.
A random thought- at least in India our Chief Justice wont be trashed for looking into human right abuses, the TV stations wont be closed and government advetisements wont be banned from certain newspapers
So let us not get carried away and thrash the favourite whipping boy- Modi-, but try and see where the real malaise lies. It lies in the power that the politicians and the police/ army have usurped to themselves in India, and more so in Pakistan.
A random thought- at least in India our Chief Justice wont be trashed for looking into human right abuses, the TV stations wont be closed and government advetisements wont be banned from certain newspapers
#12 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2007 6:06:49 am
#10 chennai
[[I recommend the death penalty for Modi,Shah, The IPs officers and all overtly or covertly connected with the murder of an innocent woman, once proven guilty.]]
exactly.
That would be only fair.
[[I recommend the death penalty for Modi,Shah, The IPs officers and all overtly or covertly connected with the murder of an innocent woman, once proven guilty.]]
exactly.
That would be only fair.
#13 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2007 6:16:02 am
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#14 Posted by Zeena on May 7, 2007 6:20:09 am
Barbarism in 21st.century......gujaratriots.com
`` The Hindus called us outside to fight. When we came out, the police fired on us, twelve to thirteen people died.... They said come forward, then they started shouting, ``Kill the Muslims, cut the Muslims, loot the Muslims.`` The police were with them and picked out the Muslim homes and set them on fire. The police aimed and fired at the Muslim boys. They then joined with the Hindus to set fire to the homes and to loot the homes. The police were carrying kerosene bottles and shooting and setting the bottles on fire..``
State Participation and Complicity in Communal Violence in Gujarat: Human Rights Watch
``Alleging that police personnel in Gujarat were directly involved in the killings of hundreds of Muslims, the New York-based Human Rights Watch organisation has urged the international community to put pressure on the Indian government to end ``orchestrated violence against Indian minorities.``
`` The Hindus called us outside to fight. When we came out, the police fired on us, twelve to thirteen people died.... They said come forward, then they started shouting, ``Kill the Muslims, cut the Muslims, loot the Muslims.`` The police were with them and picked out the Muslim homes and set them on fire. The police aimed and fired at the Muslim boys. They then joined with the Hindus to set fire to the homes and to loot the homes. The police were carrying kerosene bottles and shooting and setting the bottles on fire..``
State Participation and Complicity in Communal Violence in Gujarat: Human Rights Watch
``Alleging that police personnel in Gujarat were directly involved in the killings of hundreds of Muslims, the New York-based Human Rights Watch organisation has urged the international community to put pressure on the Indian government to end ``orchestrated violence against Indian minorities.``
#15 Posted by nila on May 7, 2007 6:24:11 am
The truth seems to be out, but possibly not the whole truth.
While killing has been established, there has been no killer identified?
And the motive?
Would it not be possible that someone in power has used the may-hem as a cover to indulge in personal vendetta?
It would be prudent to wait till things are clearer before stones are pelted.
However it is very very unfortunate that people jump up to condemn the secular out-look of the vast majority of citizens of India just because of isolated incidents.
India is not just Gujarat or Rajastan.
Whenever secularism has been put to test Hindus have by and large stood up to defend and re-inforce it while many `others` choose to ridicule them, while they themselves have no clue what secularism is all about.
And it is these others who insist that India is a Hindu country, and it is upto the Hindus to go out of their way to prove that it is secular.
There should be some other way out, surely
While killing has been established, there has been no killer identified?
And the motive?
Would it not be possible that someone in power has used the may-hem as a cover to indulge in personal vendetta?
It would be prudent to wait till things are clearer before stones are pelted.
However it is very very unfortunate that people jump up to condemn the secular out-look of the vast majority of citizens of India just because of isolated incidents.
India is not just Gujarat or Rajastan.
Whenever secularism has been put to test Hindus have by and large stood up to defend and re-inforce it while many `others` choose to ridicule them, while they themselves have no clue what secularism is all about.
And it is these others who insist that India is a Hindu country, and it is upto the Hindus to go out of their way to prove that it is secular.
There should be some other way out, surely
#16 Posted by pmishra2 on May 7, 2007 7:53:54 am
Lets not get carried away responding to silly islamist propaganda. These morons believe that only muslims have human rights and the rest of us are sub-humans. So its like having a conversation about vegetarianism with a tiger. NO POINT !
The real issue is the maturing of indian govt, law and police systems. These actions are a small step towards fixing that, maybe start of a long process or more openness and accountability.
We have a very weak system of governance in india, as soon as there is a ``problem`` the police is allowed to kill anyone they like. I saw this with my own eyes with SS Ray (congress-wallah) 60`s and 70s Bengal where 100s of young men were killed in ``encounters``, there was a similar situation with KPS Gill in Punjab with 100s dead and unaccounted for. Not surprising, given Modi`s and Gujarat BJPs disinterest in muslim welfare their officials are also implicated in muslim killings.
This doesn`t mean that there isn`t a terrorist/violence problem. That all the people killed were wonderful non-violent humans. The naxalite people SS Ray had killed were often themselves violent and plain crazy. But without openness and accountability many innocent people are also killed, police officers receiving bonus for ``encounters`` is going to lead to real bad stuff.
The real issue is the maturing of indian govt, law and police systems. These actions are a small step towards fixing that, maybe start of a long process or more openness and accountability.
We have a very weak system of governance in india, as soon as there is a ``problem`` the police is allowed to kill anyone they like. I saw this with my own eyes with SS Ray (congress-wallah) 60`s and 70s Bengal where 100s of young men were killed in ``encounters``, there was a similar situation with KPS Gill in Punjab with 100s dead and unaccounted for. Not surprising, given Modi`s and Gujarat BJPs disinterest in muslim welfare their officials are also implicated in muslim killings.
This doesn`t mean that there isn`t a terrorist/violence problem. That all the people killed were wonderful non-violent humans. The naxalite people SS Ray had killed were often themselves violent and plain crazy. But without openness and accountability many innocent people are also killed, police officers receiving bonus for ``encounters`` is going to lead to real bad stuff.
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