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Media under siege in Pakistan

Mazhar Mazhar May 13, 2007

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#131 Posted by Zeena on May 23, 2007 11:34:34 pm
hasanmahmood sahib

Now, let me make it very very very clear here on an open forum.

I hate anyone , any party whether PPP, Muslim league or MQM who are involved in any kind of dirty politics. I am not with corrupt PPP, corrutp Muslim league or any other corrupt parties of Pakistan.

I am just a well wisher for the poor innocent people of this unfortuante country, called Pakistan in which MQM, dictators, PPP,
uslim league etc, etc, etc have all done their job very well to make Pakistan # 1 corrupt country in the world.

But, the recent killings of MQM and the open support of MQM for musharaf( the dictator) will always be remembered as the masacre of poor oppressed people.......

Why Musharaf`s govt. was unable to stop killings of those innocent ones? Where was the military when we need the military the most? Where was Pakistani Police?
In all these videos open shottings have had been going on for the whole day...And cruel thing is not even a single person from army or Police came to rescue Karachi`s poor people....Why?

And now you`re comparing MQM`s violent actions with other parties...
C`mon give me a break......

Why do you think Pakistanis are not able to handle democracy? Why?
Why do you look down upon your own fellow country men?
Why do you consider Pakistanis should be treated like slaves under the dictator`s tyranny?

Why do you consider Pakistanis as less of humans?

And since when Pakistanis have been given any chance to taste the real democracy?
Always, dictators have had been enslaving Pakistanis minds, they never let them flourish,b/c it they would then there won`t be any place for them in Pakistan, there won`t be any tyranny.........

Let`s start from 1947....Ayub,Yukhwah,Zia, musharaf.........all these cruel dictators didi their worst jobs to make Pakistan the way it is right now.

All of them came , invaded Pakistan and then looted and plundered and killed innocent people and their next generations are living like kings and queens.......

These are the tragedies of pakistan...
But, it doesn`t mean that pakistanis should give up......they should fight for their freedom from the claws of tyrants like Musharaf backed up by MQM....
They should continue the process of democracy without halting......and at the end by ultrafilteration fair democracy will come out.......

If, we don`t give people chance and strat bombarding them with bombs of martial law and it`s allied parties like MQM, then how come we predict that Pakistanis are unable to handle democracy....

Pakistanis are not mentally handicapped, for heaven`s sake.....

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#130 Posted by HasanMahmood on May 22, 2007 5:50:47 am
So let me understand this Zeena. Now that the proof is out that PPP was involved in the killing your answer is that Musharaf is evil and MQM supported Zia and Musharaf. First of all that is wrong. Let me tell you why. MQM was formed much after Zia came into power. MQM actually had a meeting with BB and supported her during her first regime. Then after the massacre of Hyderabad MQM decided to go against her. Of course because it was BB and not Musharaf, those Mohajirs probably deserved to die. Ask Abdul Sattar Edhi, how many bodies he had to pick up from thee streets during her regime. Musharaf got the support from MQM because your so called democratic leaders did nothing for Karachi. BB was involved in genocide. Nawaz was involved in looting Karachi`s wealth. Musharaf came and gave Karachi what it deserved. So just because you dont like Musharaf, and MQM please dont say that MQM is evil because it supported the least of the corrupt. Also, yes I know Musharaf is evil and Musharaf is a murderer and because of Musharaf and MQMl; MQM`s own people died, and I know that Pakistan`s poverty, lak of civic sense, and even the electricity problem is only because of Musharaf and MQM but what about the video tape of the killings by PPP cronies. Now what????
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#129 Posted by Chennai on May 22, 2007 4:28:39 am
Why am i seeing Zeena`s post wherever I go to in Chowk.............Is my computer malfunctioning.......................my eyes failing..............Hmmm..............Or has Zeena done a copy & paste job..........:)
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#128 Posted by Zeena on May 22, 2007 1:09:37 am
Pakistanis have all the rights to enjoy the very taste of democracy in it`s real sense with all it`s spirits. And why not? Each and every Pakistani is deprived of this taste for such a long time that they even forgot what is the actual taste of real and true democracy is? Majority of them even stopped thinking freely in terms of democracy. All these dictators (the vampires) sabotaged democracy for their tyranny.

Pakistanis should know that the real democracy is for the people, by the people with free judiciary. They should know that the only voice of poor and common people is the voice of democracy.

Army Generals hang democracy with their ruthless claws and suck the blood of poor Pakistanis to make them dead nation and they have partially succeeded in making them zombies with no voice, but, to act and dance at the tunes of army dictators.

MQM has played the major role in establishing Zia and then Musharaf....

So, the right way is to let democracy flourish in Pakistan with all it`s honesty...Army Generals don`t even give Pakistanis any chance to feel this beautiful thing, called democracy and they always are ready to rule Pakistan.....How much more Pakistanis could be stupid?

Pakistanis have become toys in the cruel hands of these dictators....Pakistanis need liberty, freedom from martial law and those ugly monsters, called President/Army chief.

Time has come for Pakistanis to learn tolerance and accept democracy as their savior, the only way they can be safe and free and only way they can progress...and the only way, they can practice their own faiths freely without fear of any kind.....


This is the current situation of martial law in Pakistan, it is just like a volcano...in which people`s emotion get blocked and suppressed and then at the end this volcano bursts and eats up everything in it`s way.....Just wait and see... Pakistanis will eat up this martial law.

Pakistanis run for your lives.......Musharaf will eat you all up.....break this false idol, called musharaf with your unity and discipline.....
Musharaf has already eaten up hundreds of innocent and poor Pakistanis..a wolf in the garb of army dictator.......a sucker....


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#127 Posted by HasanMahmood on May 21, 2007 10:39:26 am
By the way, it is a lways a pleasure to read posts from all of you. But truthfully, these posts are nothing but a desire to show each other who is a better gora and who can shout democracy the loudest without realizing the repercussions. Musharaff is a neccassry evil brought upon us by Nawaz and Bibi. Nobody disputes that, however the future of Pakistan will never be in those corrupt politician`s hands Inshallah. Hopefully either a Marshal-Law will comes or Musharaf will win the election by hook or by crook. I know that it is the worst thing to hope for but anything and I repeat anything is better than to keep people like BB and Nawaz another chance. I would rather deal with an Army dictator than these corrupt politicians who will take my beloved country back to stone ages. If people are worried about Karachi Massacre now remember the massacre by BB in Hyderabad. Remember the Supreme Court attack of Nawaz. The only difference is at that point we did not even have a voice which we do now. I will hope and pray for Nawaz abd Bibi and their families to die but until then the only thing I can hope for is Musharaf to stay.
By the way do you guys really want Ms. Sheeree Rehman now that the tape is out. Won`t you be brave enought o call her a terrorist now with her supporters and body guards firing on innocent people. And how many of you people actually believe that some other hooligan was actually on her car firing. Come one dont you guys think she will have enough protection. And if it was an MQM guy firing from her car, wouldn`t she be the first one to be fired upon. People people, wake up. Pakistan is your country. It is not just a place which you discuss about in front of your gora friends drinking whiskey and surrounded by prostitutes. Stop and think at least once for your own country rather than blaming everything on everybody else.....
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#126 Posted by HasanMahmood on May 21, 2007 10:27:03 am
Zeena, nobody is supporting these actions, no matter who is involved. However, will you now go after PPP for the same thing. After all the video tape has been released. of course there will be people who will say that the tapes are lying and the only culprit is MQM. Ubnfortunately we have lived in a country where it is a fashion to blame everything on Mhajirs but do these tapes lie also.
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#125 Posted by Zeena on May 19, 2007 11:42:28 pm
Here is another utube about Karachi on May 12th.......

Courtsey of geo tv...




Those who are supporting mQM`s brutal actions are equally brutal and murderers.....
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#124 Posted by ahmedmadani on May 19, 2007 7:38:23 pm
Re: # 122 Respectfully why you gave this article.
The writer must be foreign writer but he does not know nothing about situation.
The biggest joke by writer

``In the private poll, Pakistanis rated India a more trusted ally than America, though America has given Pakistan an estimated $10 billion in aid, much of it military, since 2001.``

Is this joke oe of Century or what.

If writer is so uninformed why one should give importance what he wrote.

Can anybody answer. Auther is typical ``liberal`` in standard useless form.


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#123 Posted by rf786 on May 18, 2007 2:26:17 am
Re: # 120

HE

{You Mohajir murderers can`t even tolerate a peaceful political rally in Karachi by lawyers and opposition leaders. And you expect the country`s army to shake hands with those sardars and Bengali terrorists who killed innocent civilians in Baluchistan, Dhaka and Chittagong??}

You Mohajir murderers? If that is not a misprint then it basically shows your desperate, feeble and warped state of mind. If u dont like what u see in the mirror then try changing the way u look instead of blaming others and calling then names.

Those Sardars and Bengali nationalists were first Pakistani citizens but were never treated fairly or given the chance to represent their country simpy because the Punjab dominated Pak army cud not allow nationalist forces gaining momentum. It was always about state security and for the Punjoo small minded leadership it was difficult to comprehend diversity strenghtens state security, same state of mind reflected in your bigoted posts.
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#122 Posted by ZahraJ on May 17, 2007 9:54:52 pm
A general state of disarray

May 17th 2007 | ISLAMABAD, KARACHI AND LAHORE
From The Economist print edition

A slaughter in Karachi, and a vengeful judge, are signs that Pervez Musharraf is struggling to remain in power

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ON MAY 12th the port mega-city of Karachi, a great and seething Asian bazaar, returned to the violence that has scarred its modern history. Around 40 people were killed and scores injured in two days of gun battles. Corpses were dragged from shot-up cars and displayed on the tarmac. Along Shahrah-e-Faisal, the main thoroughfare, shop-fronts were smashed and set ablaze. As the carnage spread, 15,000 police and paramilitary troops stood by, unwilling or unable to intervene.

Many reports suggest the violence was perpetrated by Karachi`s ruling party, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), an ethnically-based mafia allied with Pakistan`s president and army chief, General Pervez Musharraf. Its target was an anti-government rally planned for Karachi on May 12th, at which thousands of lawyers and opposition supporters were to protest against General Musharraf`s efforts to remove the head of Pakistan`s Supreme Court, Iftikhar Chaudhry. Mr Chaudhry was due to address the rally.

If the MQM meant to deter General Musharraf`s opponents with violence, it failed. On May 14th opposition parties called a national strike to condemn the slaughter. They included the parties of two exiled former prime ministers, Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif, and a coalition of Islamists, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA). The MMA once backed the general, as Islamists in Pakistan usually have; but not any more. With an election due this year, Pakistani democracy is stirring from the coma it slipped into eight years ago, when General Musharraf seized power.

Its awakening, if that is what it is, may be traced to March 9th and a previously unimaginable event. In the presence of six other uniformed generals, at his army headquarters in Rawalpindi, General Musharraf ordered Mr Chaudhry to resign. The judge—eccentric, vain, some say incompetent—had upset his colleagues on the bench, and had given populist rulings against the government. More audaciously, he had demanded investigations into several of an alleged 400 cases where people have disappeared, mostly from his native Baluchistan, where an insurgency is flickering. These were probably the work of the powerful military intelligence agency, whose boss was one of the generals present.

Indeed, wherever Mr Chaudhry heard so much as a rumour of injustice—for example, in the reports of kidnapping and rape that fill the margins of Pakistani newspapers—he summoned officials and demanded investigations. Yet few seem to have loved Mr Chaudhry, until he refused General Musharraf`s order to resign.

This was an unprecedented event in Pakistan: a civilian telling a bullying general where to get off. General Musharraf, who has no power to sack judges, has filed a complaint against Mr Chaudhry to the Supreme Court. He alleges that the judge has abused his office, for example by currying favours for his policeman son. Meanwhile, Mr Chaudhry has been reborn as a hero of Pakistan`s long-dejected democracy. Egged on by black-jacketed lawyers, who were never so glamorous, he has criss-crossed the country, giving speeches on the sanctity of judicial independence. In a quadrangle of Lahore`s elegant British-built high courts, beside a soothing fountain and surrounded by red-brick colonnades, some of these lawyers are on hunger-strike—or, more accurately, skipping lunch.

Ordinary Pakistanis, too, have been flocking to Mr Chaudhry. On May 5th tens of thousands mobbed his car as it crawled 300km (190 miles) from Islamabad to a rally in Lahore. In the middle of Punjab, the army`s heartland, this was the first significant popular protest against General Musharraf. It was also the first by secular citizens, as opposed to Pakistan`s ever-livid Muslim zealots A week later, the repercussions were felt in Karachi.



A chronology of violence
Mr Chaudhry`s plane landed at noon on May 12th, and the violence began. Club-wielding hooligans charged a crowd of lawyers gathered at Karachi`s high courts. One suffered a broken leg, another a broken jaw, a third had his teeth smashed in. As crowds of opposition supporters, mostly from Ms Bhutto`s Pakistan People`s Party (PPP), marched towards the courthouse, they were fired on with automatic weapons from rooftops and road-blocks.

Supporters of the Awami National Party, which represents Pushtuns, the people of north-western Pakistan, were also attacked. This sparked gun battles across Karachi between Pushtuns and Mohajirs—the MQM`s community, comprising those, like General Musharraf, who relocated to Pakistan from other parts of British India. Most of the dead were Pushtun. Despite a curfew, this ethnic conflict continued into the next day, raising fears of a return to the tribal war that raged in Karachi in the late 1980s.

As bloodied corpses arrived at the city`s main hospital, the MQM held a rally of its own. Ten thousand supporters gathered in Muhammad Ali Jinnah Street, named after Pakistan`s refined founding father, to hear Altaf Hussain, the party`s leader. Not that Mr Hussain was there. He has lived in London for 15 years, evading allegations of multiple murders. But his telephoned harangue was broadcast live. In the words of Farooq Sattar, Mr Hussain`s top representative in the city, “The opposition wants to show that Karachi does not belong to the MQM. We have accepted the challenge.”

At the airport, Mr Chaudhry was manhandled by the police and his retinue of lawyers was ordered to leave Karachi. He returned to Islamabad, where General Musharraf was also addressing a rally. Around 10,000 alleged supporters of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) party gathered in front of Parliament House; some told journalists that they had been made to attend against their will by local officials. After praising his ally, the MQM, General Musharraf said his “heart was bleeding” for Karachi. His hometown`s troubles, he said from behind a bullet-proof screen, were caused by Mr Chaudhry and his supporters. “Do not challenge us,” the former commando warned them, to general applause. “We are not cowards like you, we have the power of the people.”

General Musharraf, who has survived at least two assassination attempts, is certainly no coward. But his hold on power is increasingly open to question. Pakistan`s media, united in horror at the killings in Karachi, mostly blame him, and even before the recent events his popularity was slipping. According to a poll in February for the International Republican Institute, 54.2% of respondents said they approved of how General Musharraf was doing his job; 26% disapproved. When asked which leader they thought could handle their problems best, 32% picked General Musharraf and 25% Ms Bhutto.


Loud opposition is not advised

In another poll, taken around the same time and circulated privately, the general fared worse. Asked which politician they most agreed with, 29% of respondents picked Ms Bhutto and 21.6% General Musharraf. Some analysts say both polls overstate the general`s popularity, since Pakistanis are afraid to speak ill of their uniformed ruler to an unknown questioner. And he is certainly less popular now than when the polls were taken.

But polls are of limited use in predicting his future. General Musharraf does not rule by the will of the people, but dictatorially within a hobbled democratic system. He ostensibly restored democracy in 2002, but meanwhile claimed huge powers for his office. As president, he can dissolve parliament on a whim. As army chief, he controls security policy—from a nasty war against Islamist militants in the northern tribal areas, to the orientation of Pakistan`s nuclear arsenal.

This arrangement is cumbersome to manage. It requires a supplicant ruling party to vote through his diktats as handed down by a loyal prime minister, Shaukat Aziz (or “Short Cut”, as Pakistanis know him). And it requires sympathetic Supreme Court judges to head off any constitutional challenges that may arise. Before inviting the Supreme Court to legitimise his coup, General Musharraf felt compelled to sack half its members. Mr Chaudhry was elevated, in 2000, to fill one of the gaps.

In the coming months the judges will have other weighty business to decide. General Musharraf means to get re-elected as president by the current parliament. If he succeeds, he may then ask the next parliament to let him remain army chief, an office he is constitutionally obliged to quit at the end of this year. Long-winded challenges in the Supreme Court are assured. This is why the general`s failure to rid himself of a troublesome judge is so serious.

If Mr Chaudhry is dismissed, the clamour against General Musharraf will grow. (On May 14th a Supreme Court judge withdrew from the case against his colleague, and a senior court official who was close to Mr Chaudhry was murdered.) Then again, if Mr Chaudhry keeps his job, the general can hope for no love from the Supreme Court in any constitutional battle ahead. Either way, he will have been weakened.

How to tip an election
Even with a sympathetic judiciary, the forthcoming election represents a challenge for General Musharraf. On the last occasion he was hard-pressed to ensure that a supportive government emerged. The election was manipulated in the PML-Q`s favour, yet the PPP won the most votes. General Musharraf`s supporters persuaded ten PPP MPs to cross the floor; but the general was still short of the two-thirds majority he needed to change the constitution, until the MMA provided its support.

General Musharraf would struggle to repeat this performance. The popularity of the PML-Q—a rabble of renegades and opportunists recruited from Mr Sharif`s party—is falling with the general`s own numbers. Meanwhile, the PPP is growing stronger. According to the private poll conducted in February, 22.8% of respondents said they would vote for the “king`s party”, as the PML-Q is known; 31.7% chose the PPP. On May 5th, the day Mr Chaudhry`s caravan came to Lahore, the PML-Q had to cancel a rival rally for lack of support.

Neither can General Musharraf count on the mullahs. His campaign in the tribal areas, which border the MMA`s heartland of North-West Frontier Province, is bloody and hugely unpopular. More broadly, so is the general`s pro-America stance. In the private poll, Pakistanis rated India a more trusted ally than America, though America has given Pakistan an estimated $10 billion in aid, much of it military, since 2001. This puts the mullahs in a bind. The MMA`s bearded leader, Fazlur Rehman, is a lifelong accomplice of the army, a man whose alleged corrupt enjoyment of government contracts has earned him the name “Maulana Diesel”. Yet he is now turning up at rallies for Mr Chaudhry to defy dictatorship and defend democracy with the best of them.

After Karachi, the political situation is unstable and hard to predict. Some pundits predict General Musharraf will be forced to step aside, perhaps by the army itself. Failing this, he faces some distasteful choices. He can rig the election, as he did a 2002 referendum on his rule, though this would be more difficult against a pepped-up opposition. It might also annoy America, where support for him is flagging. According to Gary Ackerman, a Democrat who heads a congressional panel on South Asia, “The truth is, for our goals to be achieved in Pakistan, there should be more than one phone number there to dial.”

Alternatively, the general can amend his political system in one of two ways. He can make it more dictatorial. On May 5th Mr Aziz reminded journalists that the government could declare a state of emergency. (The Karachi stockmarket reacted by dropping 3%.) Or the general can expand his coalition, and so become a trifle more democratic.

He has been negotiating with Ms Bhutto about this for some time. She wants General Musharraf to rid her of the corruption charges, brought by Mr Sharif, that have kept her in exile. She would also like him to scrap the two-term limit that he has imposed on the office of prime minister; Ms Bhutto and Mr Sharif have each held the office twice. For his part, General Musharraf wants the PPP to support his policies as a loyal opposition.

The potential benefits of their co-operation are clear. Pakistan`s military ruler and its most liberal party have a shared vision of a more tolerant society. The king`s party, whose leaders are as conservative as many mullahs, does not. PML-Q has refused to back General Musharraf`s more liberal initiatives, including at first his effort last year to overturn sexist laws of evidence that have ensured that over 80% of women prisoners in Pakistan are convicted of fornication, though many of them have been raped. With the PPP`s support, this law was partially repealed.

Ms Bhutto, despite much noisy bluster about the sanctity of democracy, would have no principled objection to forming a partnership with General Musharraf. Another irony of Pakistani politics is that, under her leadership, the country`s most anti-establishment party has been compliant towards the military establishment. On Ms Bhutto`s watch, Pakistan backed the Taliban in Afghanistan and sold nuclear secrets to Iran and North Korea. Mr Sharif, by contrast, the favourite politician of a former army dictator, Zia ul-Haq, proved stickier for the generals. He drove one army chief to resign and tried to sack another, General Musharraf—at which point, the general launched his coup.

Chaudhry, lionised but nervous

In short, if the tide has not turned against General Musharraf, a marriage between the lady and the general looks convenient. But there is a tiny snag. They loathe each other. And they would have ample opportunities for a quick divorce. If, for example, Ms Bhutto unexpectedly swept the election, she might dump the general. And he could press the charges against her at any time. A deal between the pair would perhaps be more of a dalliance, conditional and undeclared.

But how would Pakistan fare under such an arrangement? It would at least be better than if General Musharraf grabbed power, as he might. According to one of his confidants, the general has developed the usual dictator`s tic of thinking himself indispensable. An alliance of convenience between him and Ms Bhutto might also be preferable to restoring the democracy Pakistanis enjoyed in the 1990s, when Ms Bhutto and Mr Sharif conspired against each other and the army conspired against them both. After a decade of the instability and misrule that resulted, many Pakistanis welcomed General Musharraf`s coup.



The turn of the wheel
Such has been the political cycle in Pakistan: bad democratic government, yielding to unpopular military government and then to democratic messiness again. It is unclear whether the wheel is about to turn on General Musharraf`s rule. But it is a good moment to judge it.

Many of the general`s prescriptions have been excellent. In the management of the economy he has trusted sensible technocrats, including Mr Aziz. They have been blessed with an inheritance of liberal reforms and, above all, by booming capital inflows, not only from America. Yet they can take credit for strong economic growth, predicted to be 7% this year.

In foreign relations, too, right-minded policies have borne fruit. In the past three years Pakistan`s relations with India have been transformed from semi-war to almost-peace. A final settlement of the two countries` problems, and above all the divided region of Kashmir, remains elusive; the rivals` demands are simply incompatible. Yet General Musharraf has perhaps done more than any leader in either country to nudge them into line.

In both cases he made progress because those most directly affected by his policies, investors and the army, supported him. Where, more often, he has had little support for his policies, they have usually failed. In Baluchistan, Pakistan`s biggest and poorest province, where legitimate and longstanding local grievances are stoking an insurgency, General Musharraf`s solution has been to bomb the place. In the tribal areas, where chronic banditry and Islamist militancy are now complicated by drug money from Afghanistan and global jihad, his heavy-handed intervention has fuelled terrorism across Pakistan. On April 28th the interior minister, Aftab Khan Sherpao, was lucky to survive a suicide bomb in North-West Frontier Province that killed 29 people.

Even with more enlightened policies, solving such problems will take time—almost certainly, more time than the general has. Politics cannot be banished indefinitely, as those corpses in Karachi suggest. And neither, perhaps, can Ms Bhutto.
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#121 Posted by HisExcellency on May 17, 2007 4:52:20 pm
re: #119 by Salim_Chauhan

What makes you think you deserve any respect after shamelessly defending MQM`s massacres in Karachi?? If you act like an ass, people will ride you. At least I have cohorts. MQM Mohajirs like yourself stand exposed and isolated as fascist thugs who shower bullets on lawyers and innocent civilians, many of whom were also Mohajir by the way. Those who don`t respect the lives of their fellow countrymen, only deserve scorn and bullets in return.
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#120 Posted by HisExcellency on May 17, 2007 4:25:26 pm
re: #115

You Mohajir murderers can`t even tolerate a peaceful political rally in Karachi by lawyers and opposition leaders. And you expect the country`s army to shake hands with those sardars and Bengali terrorists who killed innocent civilians in Baluchistan, Dhaka and Chittagong??
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#119 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 17, 2007 4:25:13 pm
#118 Your Excellency,
It`s bigots and racists like you who cause people to start hating ALL Paki Punju Paindoos. At least you have some cohorts - like Chacha Chaar Sau Bees, Mullah Atif2, Paindoo A Lie, Maulana Urstruly, Brother Peemax. Madame Ass Lame, and Jihadi Ali.
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#118 Posted by HisExcellency on May 17, 2007 4:04:50 pm
re: #117

New York and California are not different countries. And with you Mohajir murderers running around in Karachi, the Biharis are safer in Bangladesh. MQM`s massacre of fellow Mohajirs in the 1990s and their torture cells are not exactly a secret, you know.
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#117 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 17, 2007 8:47:35 am
#108 HisExcellency {’’I don’t see why any patriotic Pakistan will take exception to these words. Freedom of movement is one of the key rights enshrined in the consitution. Imagine telling a New Yorker he can’t step foot in California without Gov. Schwarzenegger’s permission.’’}

Your Excellency,
You just provided the strongest argument for the repatriation of Pakistanis ’’stranded’’ in Bangladesh. :) The problem with you Paki Punju Paindoos is that your logic is always suited to support your immediate, myopic, and selfish objective. There is no nation in the world as shameless and as petty as Pakistan that refuses to readmit its own loyal citizens after losing a brutal war. There was so much agony and haste to bring back the surrendering and cowardly POWs, but the PPPs have no compassion for fellow Muslim Pakis. Shame on you!
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#116 Posted by Zeena on May 17, 2007 12:24:12 am
Pakistani Vampires out dated Dracula on May12th......in Karachi..
All these newly so called pseudo secular 5th grader intellect types aping American society with absolutely NO clue that even in American society things are changing now....an average American is turning towards religion for his/her guidance....they are looking up to those old fashioned family values and majority of them are reverting back to their true family values based on their own religions......

But, these 5th grader intellectuals are still stuck in the past and are unable to recover from their aping habits........they`re blindly aping west...LOL

They have lost the vision to see the difference between right and wrong. We call ourselves civilized on what basis? We act like self righteous all the times while ignoring all the worst corruptions and immoralities happening in our native land, called Pakistan.
They show extreme biased ness, prejudiced and discriminatory attitude against certain groups of people.

These are demons of Pakistani society....these are hypocrite killers of democracy...



What have these self righteous pseudo intellectuals done for the betterment of Pakistan so far?
Sitting in their rooms , writing like 5th grader an essay and posting few pictures making mockery won`t get them far......
Why are their neurons recessed to visualize the difference between wrong and right?

Their eyes are shut and their minds are blank filled with the darkness of their self righteous ignorance.....

Self righteous demons full of hatred and prejudice...happy to murder the innocent humans......



It is my duty as an average Pakistani and as a responsible human being to serve for the perseverance of our cultural values.....It is my duty to attack and break the false ideology of Pakistani Apes who are blindly copying western values and are unable to have their own unique thought process....
Aping west is an easy short cut for them...and then blaming religion for everything.......these are the false and pseudo idols of Pakistani society...these are the main culprits of committing all the corruption of Pakistani society..... He attacks and breaks our society`s false idols, I think it is the time to pull up the curtains of prejudice and hypocrisy that hide the societal truths of Pakistani society that we often choose not to face....and instead start blaming religion......

What`s wrong with wearing burqa?nothing
What`s wrong with burning few CDs? nothing
What`s wrong with eradicating brothels from a shareef neighborhood?absolutely right.....
What`s wrong with trying to close down some music shops which were disrupting the comforts of some people?nothing...

These actions are condemned by every Tom,Dick and Harry kind of 5th grader type Pakistani,but, alas.....
They are unable to condemn an ongoing corruption in the Pak society....actually they are the main characters to bring that corruption, how can they condemn their own production?

They are unable to condemn the killings of innocent Pakistanis @ the hands of MQM backed up by Musharaf........

For these hypocrites.....so, what ,if, few hundreds of poor oppressed Pakistani got killed on the streets of Karachi...at least they`re safe in their heavens.......

These are the demons of dictatorship choking honesty and moral values of civil society....with their support for criminals and murderers...


For them so what, if, hundreds of kids became orphans and will ultimately be forced to beg on the streets or at the most will be their servants to serve in their houses for the rest of their lives.....at least their kids are safe and their kids are going to good schools and eating good meals with good dresses......

For them nothing matters...
But, burning few CDs and closing few Music shops is worst than killing poor people.....

Yes, for them being religious is crime..but, butchering innocent Pakistanis is just mere act of stupidity and out rage....nothing more....

They are equally participating in those murders...they are the supporters of those murders....

In this process they`re forgetting one word,{KARMA}...soon they will realize the meaning of this idiom,``as you sow so shall you reap``...

Soon there will be a marry go round and they will see, what goes around that comes around........
We can call them Pakistani VAMPIRES who sucked the blood of innocent Pakistanis May12th........they out dated dracula....

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