Media under siege in Pakistan

Re: # 60

{MQM only governs Karachi. It doesn not own Karachi. What makes Altaf think we need his permission for entering Karachi or holding political rallies in this city? The same goes for any part of the country. Freedom of movement is every Pakistan`s right. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY ``NO GO`` AREAS IN PAKISTAN. PERIOD. THIS IS A PRINCIPLE THAT WE ARE WILLING TO UNDERSCORE EVEN WITH BULLETS IF NECESSARY!!!}

How many Punjabis do u c in Peshawar leave alone Wana? How many Sindhis do u c migrating to Punjab or Frontier province? Poor Balochi is finding it hard to hold on to his ancestral land simply because it will NOT BE TOLERATED.

Harsh words for ethnic minorities while soft gloves are used for the dominant Pukhtoons, and the reason is very simple, Pukhtoons can make life miserable for the Punjab dominated army/establishment whereas the Sindhi, Baloch and Mohajir are minorities therefore do not matter.

If the use of bullets or doctrine of neccessity is sanctioned according to your stated principles, then there is no reason or stopping the other party from using force to protect their principles (no capital words means this is not a threat, but a simple argument). Maybe some folks that enjoy numerical superiority believe minority can be suppressed through force, that will be their biggest mistake. many have tried in the past and failed, have your day in the sun and see how it feels.

Musharraf did not ask people before usurping power and he is not going to leave
power because people are asking him to leave.
He obviously does not think like an common Pakistani, that is why he is not a common
Pakistani.
He has a mission and vision for Pakistan in his mind and thinks he is the best person to
deliver that and so he is going to persist, no matter what because he thinks he is right.
I guess you and me does not think that way, that is why you and me are not
Pervez Musharraf and the position he is in right now.

Zeena #78 If musharraf had done what he originally promised to do - i.e. have elections and leave power, he would have been a national hero. He could have run for elections if he wished and would have generated support from all over Pakistan.

Instead, he chose to become a dictator, and is now stuck with what the ex-US Ambassador Milam calls the ahab-like obsession with being a ruler and a serving military officer at the same time, and all over pakistan people are telling him to go. And in doing so, he has presented Pakistan with the twin menace of religious fascism on the one hand and ethnic fascism on the other.

dear madras, i mean chennai #77: i dont know why you assume people in pakistan (with a few odd exceptions that prove the rule) have any interest in joining india. this is simply not an issue anyone is interested in.

#74 by HisExcellency on May 15, 2007 8:57pm PT

nope...that sound is the collective orgasm of 160 million pakis waking up after a kashmir banega pakistan wetdream...

kashmir banega pakistan....HAHAHA...

Nero(Mushy) was playing his fiddle,while Rome(Pakistan) was burning....

Yes, I watched Musharaf`s addressing a rally in Islamabad and it was quite obvious that the rally was a pre planned Mushy`s chamchaa rally (funded by govt. @ the expense of poor Pakistanis taxes). This man, musharaf( the dictator) was just doing a kutputlee tamasha with a dugduggi in his hand, he reminded me of an acrobatic and juggler trying to make his puppets dance on his own dictatorial tunes.......
He calls himself President of Pakistan, well, he is NOT...he has just hijacked this the most prestigious and honorable status by hook or by crook..........He was never given that honor by the people of Pakistan. He just looted and plundered the People of Pakistan, ransacked them and became Pseudo President of Pakistan....
He also calls himself, Chief of Army staff..Well, he was given that prestigious status by Pakistani Army, when his role was meant to defend Pakistan @ the Pakistani borders.
He was merely a servant of the people of Pakistan being fed @ the taxes of Pakistani citizens...............

But, that was then...Now,by becoming dictator and tyrant...he has lost his original title as Army general technically b/c Mary chief of staff is supposed to be the security guard for their countries, NOT a tyrant like Musharaf.....

While he was addressing his own khabees chamchaas...he was acting weird, bizarre and like a third rated street style gangster who has lost his identity and didn`t know what was he uttering ...his words were just incoherent....he was wearing shalwar qameez..LOL
And was trying to imitate his close political lotas..........or he was trying to be the leader of Pakistan( father of the nation)....LOL...

Yes, he is father of nation....My foot.
He was absolutely not in his right mind, he was in his own state of confusion...just praising himself.....he was just jumping here and there on the set stage.....exactly like an acrobatic monkey...........All he was saying was just a big slap on the faces of all Pakistanis.........he was actually bullying all Pakistanis...but, in reality he was bullying himself...........he was smiling and laughing with some up beat music...........

And @ the same time Karachi was burning, Karachi was turning in to another massive grave yard, another Beirut.....Peshawar was burning......

Musharaf reminded me of Nero, playing his fiddle while Rome was burning...........
Musharaf was playing his monkey tamasha, while Pakistan was burning...........



In Pakistan only Musharaf`s life is important, everyone else is just flesh and bones, so what, if, they got killed innecessantly .....
And I started laughing, too...may be I wanted to cry, but, seeing his acrobatic drama...instead I laughed and specially when he started advising lawyers to stop playing politics......

So, General sahib is NOT playing any dirty politics...LOL
Look who`s talking?.....

After seeing innocent people being killed on the streets of Pakistan ........
I can only wish,if, someday someone could drag Musharaf out of his black staff car and keep him dragging on the streets...how will he feel?

Honestly, all the dictators deserve such dragging..........

Musharaf days are over....Musharaf era is gone......he has had enough looted all Pakistani money and now his next seven generations will live like queens and Kings...No problems....

Just like prior dictators, Ayub Khan, Zia ul Huq, etc, etc....their generations are living like kings and queens......and now Mushy`s turn.....

Let`s see, Pakistani people will remain sleeping or will wake up out of their slumber.....

This is a big slap and gift from Musharaf for Pakistanis...this is a big wake up call and an eye opener.........

Musharaf,you have to exit.......but, not via proper door....you have already closed that proper front door.....run as far as you can....via back door, if, any left........or why don`t you get a Canadian visa( the way you suggested it for other Pakistanis).....remember..I hope you don`t have dementia.....

Musharaf,``you have to add one last chapter in your book(in the line of fire) or may be you wish to change the name in to,``Mushy playing fiddle while Pakistan was burning in the line of fire.``

Very true.........sigh*

Re:
``#64 by khamy1 on May 15, 2007 4:31pm PT
... how many mohajirs on chowk believe in dismantling pakistan and getting back to the fold of bharat mata...salim chauhan has been dreaming of that day. let`s see how many more mohajirs think like him...``

Khamy, you will be surprised to know that a majority of Indians do not want any reunification with Pakistan. In another Interact by a Pakistani Punjabi who said Pakistan will not survive by 2020, the majority of Indians did not want any truck with Pakistan.Mine was the minority voice but I too have changed my mind!

correction:

His position has become quite untenable.

Truly sad days for Pakistan and Pakistanis. I think that the time has come for Musharraf to go before he is pushed out, maybe by his own colleagues. His position has become quite tenable. He has done a lot of good for Pakistan but the longer he stays from now on, the more he will be remembered for the mayhem pervading in Pakistan now than for the good he did during his time ......kind of like Ayub after 1965.

re: #68 by arjun2

{{If you listen carefully, you`ll hear echoes of bangladesh in 71...unless you are a paki in which case that shit never happened....}}

Arjun, what you are hearing inside your head are actually echoes of Kashmiri gunfire, Mumbai blasts and Naxalite grenades...

Former US Ambassador to Pakistan William Milam on the current crisis - Daily Times

Excerpts:

...Perhaps the more accurate nautical metaphor for President Musharraf’s behaviour over the past three months is the great novel “Moby Dick”. In that story, the Captain ends up being dragged to the ocean bottom by the white whale that was the object of his obsession. But the whale not only killed the captain, it destroyed the ship and killed all but one of the crew.

While I don’t see how the president can avoid being dragged down by his seeming obsession to be re-elected while in uniform, I expect that the Pakistani ship of state will, however, continue to float. Perhaps the next captain will be a better political navigator. And perhaps he (or she) will listen to, even consult, the passengers as the voyage proceeds.

Daily Telegraph news item on Pakistan

Excerpts:

... In the manner of many Mogul rulers, Musharraf appears to have become cocooned from reality by the sycophants of his court. Since the publication of his bombastic biography last year, he has displayed a hubris of the type that presages a fall.

...In recent months, his unwillingness to tackle girls armed with sticks in an Islamabad madrassa have raised old accusations that he is playing the ``militant card`` to persuade the West that, without him, Pakistan will fall to the Islamic extremists.

#70 HisExcellency: Thanks for all the postings. Inshallah Pakistan will come out of these difficult days stronger than before.

re: #68

Tell us all about it after the Gandhis come out of the family room.

So this is why US forces regularly waltz into paki territory and whack pakis with jihadi tendencies....

Pakistan, S Arabia may pose bigger problems than Iraq, Afghanistan

Daily Times Monitor

CANBERRA: Security collapse in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia could pose far greater problems for the west than either Iraq or Afghanistan, a former US general said on Tuesday, according to the Australian Associated Press news agency.

General John Abizaid, who headed US Central Command from 2003 until retiring in 2007, said the problem was that Pakistan had nuclear weapons while Saudi Arabia had about a quarter of the world’s oil reserves.

If you listen carefully, you`ll hear echoes of bangladesh in 71...unless you are a paki in which case that shit never happened....