Farhan Jamalvi May 17, 2007
#24 Posted by ahmedmadani on May 19, 2007 6:24:01 pm
It is sad that people have taken chance to savage most modern and nonfudal party of pakistan and shown their bare racism against Urdu migrant and their only problem or fault being successful group. It is very similar to all christian and muslims finding all faults with jews and blaming them for everything what goes wrong in their their life or society. In pakistan the it is best to blame everything on them. Dr khan is MQM man with out his brilliance these people will be still driving camels and donkeys see rural sindh. If crroupt BB or NS was pm they would have sold khan for few dollars and to be skinned alive by americans. It is fortunate a cerebral general is carrying all burden for ingrateful retard sindhi and punjabis all burden of ruling this retards who live life on handouts from western countries and retards criticse General and his proamerican policy , dog biting feeding hand. Uncle P.M. you should whip these retards so they do not whine. What is big about CJ. PM compalined about corroupt ways about CJ and his son and then as a constitution defender President need to refer to Hightest court. He did as even what USA president will do, in old days when non MQM ruler like bhutto sr he would have just murdered and case finished or unfortunate accident and cj dead. There is latent under current of racism against dark skins in blood of these retards.For them killing MQM is fun and they were killed in thousands crudely and when like moses altafbhai rose like pheonix and put organization to confront facists of Punjabi Pathan Ittehad and they taught lessons to so called ``brave pathans`` those arrogent drivers were brought to justice swiftly by useing people`s power and cut to size when needed suddenly retards started realiazed MQM is fascit and armed.When BB and her racist fascit general Gen. N. Babaer was was killing dark skinned rats it was Kosher and halal. But when rats rose and began to bite they said rats must be exterminated. Perserve justice of retards. Salimbhai has pointedly ponted out the racism. Why they killed Bengalis as they are dark skinned and raping was done to improve racial upgrading was even said jokingly by retards and retard army. Worst they surrendered in droves to dark army, shame on them. Shah Waris has well said about this retards. Up to now every political party was at mercy and pleasure of army but MQM is first party where general has to call Altaf and discuss to get help. Slave parties of PPP and all opposition can tolerate leader who does not give damn to army and army has to send people to talk to altaf while BB and NS are are waiting like dog to give concessions by general and at mercy of general. That is reason they will cry for FAIR kaqshmiris but will never have word or help to bring 1 million poor pakistanis as their skin is dark while kashmiri skin is fair complexed. Altaf is trying to arrest taliban coming to karachi and while PPP will bring in Taliban to get BB PMSHIP.
Altafbahi has done well and from london he is managing pakistan and karachi and all big 4 cities of sindh and trying to bring provincial rights.
It is jungles law big animals do not cross area of other like tiger marks terrototy then other tiger avoids that. That keeps peace. What animals understand retaerds do not understand. Karachi was peaceful before CJ decided to cross in others areas. Urban Karachi is altaf country and punjab is Choudhary and rural sindh is BB country.Now President is Son of Urban sindh, his nationality/ ethinicity is same as altaf MQM. Now altaf did not go in other`s areas like punjab or rural backward sindh. He confines and rules 4 big cities of sindh, nothing less nothing more. When CJ came to Sindh is was trangracing against altaf and president son soli of Sindh Dharati and as Satrap its unnatural for altaf to allow CJ non mqm nationality to come to confront second most popular man/ presidet ( after Altafbhai) so all awam got irate and they went besurk and attacked CJ Tamasha as invasion of Urban sindh by alien oppressive group. Now as CJ has returned peace has returned. Do not transgrace turf of others and Altaf will not go in other areas. ( one of reason altafbhai care for President as MQMH no go areas were gone in few days when when army decided and MQM H is now history.). If politicans behave with respect to Altaf and MQM sensibilites urban sindh will be area of peace tranqulity but transgresser will be punished. MQM is best for friends and worst for its enemies.
Good Luck and hope common sense prevails and trouble makers keep away from Karachi.
Altafbahi has done well and from london he is managing pakistan and karachi and all big 4 cities of sindh and trying to bring provincial rights.
It is jungles law big animals do not cross area of other like tiger marks terrototy then other tiger avoids that. That keeps peace. What animals understand retaerds do not understand. Karachi was peaceful before CJ decided to cross in others areas. Urban Karachi is altaf country and punjab is Choudhary and rural sindh is BB country.Now President is Son of Urban sindh, his nationality/ ethinicity is same as altaf MQM. Now altaf did not go in other`s areas like punjab or rural backward sindh. He confines and rules 4 big cities of sindh, nothing less nothing more. When CJ came to Sindh is was trangracing against altaf and president son soli of Sindh Dharati and as Satrap its unnatural for altaf to allow CJ non mqm nationality to come to confront second most popular man/ presidet ( after Altafbhai) so all awam got irate and they went besurk and attacked CJ Tamasha as invasion of Urban sindh by alien oppressive group. Now as CJ has returned peace has returned. Do not transgrace turf of others and Altaf will not go in other areas. ( one of reason altafbhai care for President as MQMH no go areas were gone in few days when when army decided and MQM H is now history.). If politicans behave with respect to Altaf and MQM sensibilites urban sindh will be area of peace tranqulity but transgresser will be punished. MQM is best for friends and worst for its enemies.
Good Luck and hope common sense prevails and trouble makers keep away from Karachi.
#23 Posted by HP on May 19, 2007 10:26:11 am
Rated R....
One commentator said, `` Maan chudi hoi hay Karachi ki behenchood!``
#20 Posted by ahmedmadani on May 19, 2007 9:24:18 am
I not fan of president but his opponents are ready to tear down country to get advantage in coming elections. This CJ business is going too far. It legal procedure but politics is getting involved and good name of courts is getting spoiled. Real all big players like usa need to support general at this time but they are opportunist people and trying both ways which hurts presidents standing in awam. Now court can decide if CJ is corropt if so he should be punished as common criminal and if if is not found guilty he should resign as not guilty is not proof of innonance. If he is reinstated then it will be according to law but no justice will be served and damaging to presidency. If he is good man and has some feeling for killing of innocent people by oppositin parties for gaining more votes, he should resign and go abroad as he is openly indulging in politics against president of country. He has taken decision which had harmed reputation of country. Many missing people are Jihadis any may be ``missing`` to avoid being arrested as terrosist may be mostly in combat zones like Chechnia, A.stan. Kahmir,India, Eastern Turkestan ( China west). Now they want to miss as they know that they will be tried by anti terrorist courts and sentenced to death or life imprisonment for comforting and helping terrorist type things. All roubles going around in India, a.stan, Iran, China/eastern Turkastan and internal troubles due anti pakistani terrorists which are armed and financed by all above indian. iran, a.stan except china who is real friend and soon we will have free trade agreement and open borders for trade. Internal situation was bad but it has become grave due to opposition creating troubles and closing towns as protest is stretching the police thin. And terrorist are killing people. What is needed is stability for prosperity. Jail all trouble makes and have army rule for 10 years and then when things are good can have elections.
#19 Posted by engr_malik on May 19, 2007 7:59:03 am
Jamalvi sahib,
Atleast you can pass the videos to Imran Khan who is preparing a case against Altaf hussain in UK and right now PTI is collecting evidences against MQM and Altaf. Hide your identity. Who will know that you have passed the videos to him.
www.insaf.org.pk
www.moveforjustice.org
Atleast you can pass the videos to Imran Khan who is preparing a case against Altaf hussain in UK and right now PTI is collecting evidences against MQM and Altaf. Hide your identity. Who will know that you have passed the videos to him.
www.insaf.org.pk
www.moveforjustice.org
#18 Posted by akber on May 19, 2007 4:18:51 am
the inner details some activist of mqm landhi unit told, they at the night of 11th may altaf hussain gave his telephonic speech from london which was at the same time confrenced to all mqm units all over karachi for direct question and answer session.
in which altaf told:
app logon ku 3 din kee khuli choot dee ja rahi hai,
(as since being in power they were somewhat restrained to show the artifical softer image of MQM.)
police app ke mamley mei interfare nahi karey gee ( whcich was clearly seen by watching the AJJ tv footage of how armed mqm militants were shown roaming around the streets with wepons in there hands while police mobiles were slowly driving towards patel para)
with replies like
Bhai app hukum tu karein, zang lag gaya aslahey (amunation) ku parey parey.
in which altaf told:
app logon ku 3 din kee khuli choot dee ja rahi hai,
(as since being in power they were somewhat restrained to show the artifical softer image of MQM.)
police app ke mamley mei interfare nahi karey gee ( whcich was clearly seen by watching the AJJ tv footage of how armed mqm militants were shown roaming around the streets with wepons in there hands while police mobiles were slowly driving towards patel para)
with replies like
Bhai app hukum tu karein, zang lag gaya aslahey (amunation) ku parey parey.
#17 Posted by akber on May 19, 2007 4:04:14 am
funny .. on a not so funny issue ..
The Facisim of MQM is well known to everyone living in Karachi, cause every family is in one way or another have been effected or touched by there voilence.
be it in 1992 when mqm was on confortation with jang group, my father was stoped by armed mqm men near mizar-e-qaid to get his car searched to see he doesn;t possess any jang newspaper.
to in 1995 when they killed SHO of garden policle station after fierce battle which lasts around 6 hours in night and we could hear shots being fired from automatic wepons and in between a big shoowwwwnnnnn of rocket being fired, that night 11 rocket were fired on garden police station.
to in 1995 during the army operation, killing two of our relatives whom bodies later found with there eyes goached out and cigreatte burns all over there bodies. for the crime that during the curfew time out of there curiosity they have been seen conversing with an army captian.
to in 1996 the day benazir government thrown down, our car snatched by mqm activist which we saw used by them for celebrations for end of benazir government in front of our eyes.
to 14th augast 1996 50th anniversary of Pakistan by snatiching and tearing down our Pakistani flags for not chanting jiye muhajir on seaview.
and the list goes on ..
i always beleived they dont have a popular support that they win there elections by fierce terror, but its not entierly true either they have a die hard following and there are reasong for it.
in early 1996 a foreman of a factory probably in his late fourties came to my shop from some purchase and i saw her shot red eyes and asked him seems like you haven`t slept last night, with his watery eyes he told me he has two sons one of them is working with him in factory and the younger one was studying in technical college with a promised job in the same factory once he graduated from there, last night police picked up his son and tourtured him in police station and told him to get 40,000 in 2 hours or his son will also be in list of died in encounter he said i went door to door of my relative collected 40,000 and gave it to police station and brought my son back home, he said he went quite ever since, and before coming to work i told him to go to college but he is not replying at all.
last year i got a book from library about the early struggle of MQM, i was reading that book while waiting in car at tariq road for my sisters to come back, meanwhile a towel vendor came and knocked on my car window, i gave him a no gesture i am not intrested in buying towels and he went away after 30 seconds he came around again and knocked again i looked up and this time giving a strong gesture that i am not intrested in his towels, but he pointed towards the book i was reading, i rolled down my window and he said ..
app altaf bhai kee book parh rahey hain, kia mei deakh sakta hoon ? (very polietly)
i can see the anthusiasim in his eyes with sweat driping down from his face and burdened by towels he was carrying he was keen to see the book i said wait i show you i showed him the pics of altaf hussain in university at the time of founding of APMSO to the first time he went to jail to when he came out free, and he was like smiling and happy with dil khush hu gaya.
mqm is not popular among the elite class or well to do middle class who can find there way through system eithey by source or through money.
it mostly represent the lower class of helpless people and this is where there strength lies.
after 12th may i searched out election results of 2002,
In 2002 elections mqm got 13 seats out of which 12 seats are from Karachi and they colectively baged 550,000. votes in the city of 16 million inhabitants.
The Facisim of MQM is well known to everyone living in Karachi, cause every family is in one way or another have been effected or touched by there voilence.
be it in 1992 when mqm was on confortation with jang group, my father was stoped by armed mqm men near mizar-e-qaid to get his car searched to see he doesn;t possess any jang newspaper.
to in 1995 when they killed SHO of garden policle station after fierce battle which lasts around 6 hours in night and we could hear shots being fired from automatic wepons and in between a big shoowwwwnnnnn of rocket being fired, that night 11 rocket were fired on garden police station.
to in 1995 during the army operation, killing two of our relatives whom bodies later found with there eyes goached out and cigreatte burns all over there bodies. for the crime that during the curfew time out of there curiosity they have been seen conversing with an army captian.
to in 1996 the day benazir government thrown down, our car snatched by mqm activist which we saw used by them for celebrations for end of benazir government in front of our eyes.
to 14th augast 1996 50th anniversary of Pakistan by snatiching and tearing down our Pakistani flags for not chanting jiye muhajir on seaview.
and the list goes on ..
i always beleived they dont have a popular support that they win there elections by fierce terror, but its not entierly true either they have a die hard following and there are reasong for it.
in early 1996 a foreman of a factory probably in his late fourties came to my shop from some purchase and i saw her shot red eyes and asked him seems like you haven`t slept last night, with his watery eyes he told me he has two sons one of them is working with him in factory and the younger one was studying in technical college with a promised job in the same factory once he graduated from there, last night police picked up his son and tourtured him in police station and told him to get 40,000 in 2 hours or his son will also be in list of died in encounter he said i went door to door of my relative collected 40,000 and gave it to police station and brought my son back home, he said he went quite ever since, and before coming to work i told him to go to college but he is not replying at all.
last year i got a book from library about the early struggle of MQM, i was reading that book while waiting in car at tariq road for my sisters to come back, meanwhile a towel vendor came and knocked on my car window, i gave him a no gesture i am not intrested in buying towels and he went away after 30 seconds he came around again and knocked again i looked up and this time giving a strong gesture that i am not intrested in his towels, but he pointed towards the book i was reading, i rolled down my window and he said ..
app altaf bhai kee book parh rahey hain, kia mei deakh sakta hoon ? (very polietly)
i can see the anthusiasim in his eyes with sweat driping down from his face and burdened by towels he was carrying he was keen to see the book i said wait i show you i showed him the pics of altaf hussain in university at the time of founding of APMSO to the first time he went to jail to when he came out free, and he was like smiling and happy with dil khush hu gaya.
mqm is not popular among the elite class or well to do middle class who can find there way through system eithey by source or through money.
it mostly represent the lower class of helpless people and this is where there strength lies.
after 12th may i searched out election results of 2002,
In 2002 elections mqm got 13 seats out of which 12 seats are from Karachi and they colectively baged 550,000. votes in the city of 16 million inhabitants.
#16 Posted by Zeena on May 18, 2007 10:53:16 pm
Jamalvi sahib
Musharaf and his ilks are unable to condemn the killings of innocent Pakistanis @ the hands of MQM backed up by Musharaf........
For these hypocrites.....so, what ,if, few hundreds of poor oppressed Pakistani got killed on the streets of Karachi...at least they`re safe in their heavens.......
These are the demons of dictatorship choking honesty and moral values of civil society....with their support for criminals and murderers...
For them so what, if, hundreds of kids became orphans and will ultimately be forced to beg on the streets or at the most will be their servants to serve in their houses for the rest of their lives.....at least their kids are safe and their kids are going to good schools and eating good meals with good dresses......
For them nothing matters...
But, burning few CDs and closing few Music shops is worst than killing poor people.....
Yes, for them being religious is crime..but, butchering innocent Pakistanis is just mere act of stupidity and out rage....nothing more....
They are equally participating in those murders...they are the supporters of those murders....
In this process they`re forgetting one word,{KARMA}...soon they will realize the meaning of this idiom,``as you sow so shall you reap``...
Soon there will be a marry go round and they will see, what goes around that comes around........
We can call them Pakistani VAMPIRES who sucked the blood of innocent Pakistanis May12th........they out dated dracula....
What have these self righteous pseudo intellectuals done for the betterment of Pakistan so far?
Sitting in their rooms ......giving interviews and acting all innocent...wawawa
Why are their neurons recessed to visualize the difference between wrong and right?
Their eyes are shut and their minds are blank filled with the darkness of their self righteous ignorance.....
Self righteous demons full of hatred and prejudice...happy to murder the innocent humans......
Musharaf and his ilks are unable to condemn the killings of innocent Pakistanis @ the hands of MQM backed up by Musharaf........
For these hypocrites.....so, what ,if, few hundreds of poor oppressed Pakistani got killed on the streets of Karachi...at least they`re safe in their heavens.......
These are the demons of dictatorship choking honesty and moral values of civil society....with their support for criminals and murderers...
For them so what, if, hundreds of kids became orphans and will ultimately be forced to beg on the streets or at the most will be their servants to serve in their houses for the rest of their lives.....at least their kids are safe and their kids are going to good schools and eating good meals with good dresses......
For them nothing matters...
But, burning few CDs and closing few Music shops is worst than killing poor people.....
Yes, for them being religious is crime..but, butchering innocent Pakistanis is just mere act of stupidity and out rage....nothing more....
They are equally participating in those murders...they are the supporters of those murders....
In this process they`re forgetting one word,{KARMA}...soon they will realize the meaning of this idiom,``as you sow so shall you reap``...
Soon there will be a marry go round and they will see, what goes around that comes around........
We can call them Pakistani VAMPIRES who sucked the blood of innocent Pakistanis May12th........they out dated dracula....
What have these self righteous pseudo intellectuals done for the betterment of Pakistan so far?
Sitting in their rooms ......giving interviews and acting all innocent...wawawa
Why are their neurons recessed to visualize the difference between wrong and right?
Their eyes are shut and their minds are blank filled with the darkness of their self righteous ignorance.....
Self righteous demons full of hatred and prejudice...happy to murder the innocent humans......
#15 Posted by Zeena on May 18, 2007 10:32:56 pm
#13 Urstruly sahib
Oh, so this ethnic cleansing in Karachi has had been going on for decades now.....wawawa..
And still people have nerves to back up MQM.....
I still can not grasp this whole idea of MQM`s agenda.....
Urdu speaking people are enjoying their lives in Karachi, they are living like living in some developed country, they have all the privileges....they are not deprived of anything......
Then what`s the reason of all this chaos?
I have few Urdu speaking friends, I asked them about MQM and they hate MQM like anything........
And they said that MQM is just a mafia of some specific regions of Karachi...It is absolutely not the representative party for all Urdu speakings.........
Karachi is for all Pakistanis...it is not only for MQM.......
Oh, so this ethnic cleansing in Karachi has had been going on for decades now.....wawawa..
And still people have nerves to back up MQM.....
I still can not grasp this whole idea of MQM`s agenda.....
Urdu speaking people are enjoying their lives in Karachi, they are living like living in some developed country, they have all the privileges....they are not deprived of anything......
Then what`s the reason of all this chaos?
I have few Urdu speaking friends, I asked them about MQM and they hate MQM like anything........
And they said that MQM is just a mafia of some specific regions of Karachi...It is absolutely not the representative party for all Urdu speakings.........
Karachi is for all Pakistanis...it is not only for MQM.......
#14 Posted by Zeena on May 18, 2007 10:27:51 pm
Re:#3 Jamalvi sahib
UC this is the biggest tragedy in Pakistan that this country is always hijacked by these dictators. MQM was the creation of Zia sahib and MQM is again backing up Musharaf.
Musharaf would have been much respedt by majority Pakistanis ,if, this man would have resigned with dignity after promising to leave few years ago...
This leech is sucking innocent Pakistanis blood just for his power..........He is sucking Pakistan to the extent that his next generations wo=ill live like kings and queens......opening their accounts in Swiss banks......and now Musharaf leech is not moving a bit......
Musharaf leech..innocent..haan innocent , my foot......
Musahraf leech is just a screwed up man with no dignity left...What do you think after drinking blood of innocent poor people , this leech would like to leave this country...No, never....now, the only way left for Pakistanis is to drag this leech down via force........
My question from this leech is, if, this leech is desperate to be the President of this country, then he should resign from his chief of army staff position, let elections run their course and compete like other politicians from Karachi from MQM`s ticket...If, people of Pakistan elects him as their leader, then by all means he can be President of pakistan....But, this leech knows, once he will quit his army position , people will never let him lose..........
Whatever is happening is nothing new...But, with the grace of God(Almighty), this country is still alive and people of Pakistan are still optimistic about it`s future........
Let`s see, what will happen next?I hope not another blood shed....sad....trulyy sad....
UC this is the biggest tragedy in Pakistan that this country is always hijacked by these dictators. MQM was the creation of Zia sahib and MQM is again backing up Musharaf.
Musharaf would have been much respedt by majority Pakistanis ,if, this man would have resigned with dignity after promising to leave few years ago...
This leech is sucking innocent Pakistanis blood just for his power..........He is sucking Pakistan to the extent that his next generations wo=ill live like kings and queens......opening their accounts in Swiss banks......and now Musharaf leech is not moving a bit......
Musharaf leech..innocent..haan innocent , my foot......
Musahraf leech is just a screwed up man with no dignity left...What do you think after drinking blood of innocent poor people , this leech would like to leave this country...No, never....now, the only way left for Pakistanis is to drag this leech down via force........
My question from this leech is, if, this leech is desperate to be the President of this country, then he should resign from his chief of army staff position, let elections run their course and compete like other politicians from Karachi from MQM`s ticket...If, people of Pakistan elects him as their leader, then by all means he can be President of pakistan....But, this leech knows, once he will quit his army position , people will never let him lose..........
Whatever is happening is nothing new...But, with the grace of God(Almighty), this country is still alive and people of Pakistan are still optimistic about it`s future........
Let`s see, what will happen next?I hope not another blood shed....sad....trulyy sad....
#13 Posted by Urstruly on May 18, 2007 12:40:34 pm
Re: # 10
I absolutely understand what you are saying. I myself am a survivor of the civil war of 80s and 90s in Karachi and the ethnic cleansing that MQM did in those years. I salute your courage.
I absolutely understand what you are saying. I myself am a survivor of the civil war of 80s and 90s in Karachi and the ethnic cleansing that MQM did in those years. I salute your courage.
#12 Posted by Jamalvi on May 18, 2007 11:05:13 am
Re: # 8
Dear Zeena
While I am writing this to you, Mr. Prez is being interviewed by Talat Hussein on AAJ TV. In response to the Chief Justice stand-off he says, `it happened due to my innocence...`, `...the world believes it`s me who is ruling this country but actually I am not. It`s the prime minister and his cabinet who are ruling this country...`
Funny, isn`t it!
What would you call it? Passing the bucket as they call it, right? No wonder then, no one resigns in this country. Every official has a solid alibi, can`t charge them with the crime.
Dear Zeena
While I am writing this to you, Mr. Prez is being interviewed by Talat Hussein on AAJ TV. In response to the Chief Justice stand-off he says, `it happened due to my innocence...`, `...the world believes it`s me who is ruling this country but actually I am not. It`s the prime minister and his cabinet who are ruling this country...`
Funny, isn`t it!
What would you call it? Passing the bucket as they call it, right? No wonder then, no one resigns in this country. Every official has a solid alibi, can`t charge them with the crime.
#11 Posted by zeemax on May 18, 2007 10:53:40 am
#10 by Jamalvi,
Please elaborate.
It`s your duty to do so because `Chowk` published you.
(P.S. Didn`t mean to be pushy but really, if you `re here, then your audience deserves the whole truth and nothing less than the truth).
Please elaborate.
It`s your duty to do so because `Chowk` published you.
(P.S. Didn`t mean to be pushy but really, if you `re here, then your audience deserves the whole truth and nothing less than the truth).
#10 Posted by Jamalvi on May 18, 2007 10:35:59 am
Re: # 7
Dear Urstruly,
I agree with you. But there are certain `constraints` for the media as well. For instance, a couple of leading English dailies did not publish this article, but I finally made it on Chowk. It`s not about freedom of speech alone. . . it`s gone beyond that in our country, particularly in Karachi. It`s become a matter of life and death. ``MY`` life and ``YOUR`` death.
Dear Urstruly,
I agree with you. But there are certain `constraints` for the media as well. For instance, a couple of leading English dailies did not publish this article, but I finally made it on Chowk. It`s not about freedom of speech alone. . . it`s gone beyond that in our country, particularly in Karachi. It`s become a matter of life and death. ``MY`` life and ``YOUR`` death.
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