Thirty Six Murders in Search of a Resignation

funny .. on a not so funny issue ..

The Facisim of MQM is well known to everyone living in Karachi, cause every family is in one way or another have been effected or touched by there voilence.

be it in 1992 when mqm was on confortation with jang group, my father was stoped by armed mqm men near mizar-e-qaid to get his car searched to see he doesn;t possess any jang newspaper.

to in 1995 when they killed SHO of garden policle station after fierce battle which lasts around 6 hours in night and we could hear shots being fired from automatic wepons and in between a big shoowwwwnnnnn of rocket being fired, that night 11 rocket were fired on garden police station.

to in 1995 during the army operation, killing two of our relatives whom bodies later found with there eyes goached out and cigreatte burns all over there bodies. for the crime that during the curfew time out of there curiosity they have been seen conversing with an army captian.

to in 1996 the day benazir government thrown down, our car snatched by mqm activist which we saw used by them for celebrations for end of benazir government in front of our eyes.

to 14th augast 1996 50th anniversary of Pakistan by snatiching and tearing down our Pakistani flags for not chanting jiye muhajir on seaview.

and the list goes on ..

i always beleived they dont have a popular support that they win there elections by fierce terror, but its not entierly true either they have a die hard following and there are reasong for it.

in early 1996 a foreman of a factory probably in his late fourties came to my shop from some purchase and i saw her shot red eyes and asked him seems like you haven`t slept last night, with his watery eyes he told me he has two sons one of them is working with him in factory and the younger one was studying in technical college with a promised job in the same factory once he graduated from there, last night police picked up his son and tourtured him in police station and told him to get 40,000 in 2 hours or his son will also be in list of died in encounter he said i went door to door of my relative collected 40,000 and gave it to police station and brought my son back home, he said he went quite ever since, and before coming to work i told him to go to college but he is not replying at all.

last year i got a book from library about the early struggle of MQM, i was reading that book while waiting in car at tariq road for my sisters to come back, meanwhile a towel vendor came and knocked on my car window, i gave him a no gesture i am not intrested in buying towels and he went away after 30 seconds he came around again and knocked again i looked up and this time giving a strong gesture that i am not intrested in his towels, but he pointed towards the book i was reading, i rolled down my window and he said ..

app altaf bhai kee book parh rahey hain, kia mei deakh sakta hoon ? (very polietly)

i can see the anthusiasim in his eyes with sweat driping down from his face and burdened by towels he was carrying he was keen to see the book i said wait i show you i showed him the pics of altaf hussain in university at the time of founding of APMSO to the first time he went to jail to when he came out free, and he was like smiling and happy with dil khush hu gaya.

mqm is not popular among the elite class or well to do middle class who can find there way through system eithey by source or through money.

it mostly represent the lower class of helpless people and this is where there strength lies.

after 12th may i searched out election results of 2002,

In 2002 elections mqm got 13 seats out of which 12 seats are from Karachi and they colectively baged 550,000. votes in the city of 16 million inhabitants.

the inner details some activist of mqm landhi unit told, they at the night of 11th may altaf hussain gave his telephonic speech from london which was at the same time confrenced to all mqm units all over karachi for direct question and answer session.

in which altaf told:

app logon ku 3 din kee khuli choot dee ja rahi hai,
(as since being in power they were somewhat restrained to show the artifical softer image of MQM.)

police app ke mamley mei interfare nahi karey gee ( whcich was clearly seen by watching the AJJ tv footage of how armed mqm militants were shown roaming around the streets with wepons in there hands while police mobiles were slowly driving towards patel para)

with replies like

Bhai app hukum tu karein, zang lag gaya aslahey (amunation) ku parey parey.

Jamalvi sahib,

Atleast you can pass the videos to Imran Khan who is preparing a case against Altaf hussain in UK and right now PTI is collecting evidences against MQM and Altaf. Hide your identity. Who will know that you have passed the videos to him.

www.insaf.org.pk

www.moveforjustice.org

I not fan of president but his opponents are ready to tear down country to get advantage in coming elections. This CJ business is going too far. It legal procedure but politics is getting involved and good name of courts is getting spoiled. Real all big players like usa need to support general at this time but they are opportunist people and trying both ways which hurts presidents standing in awam. Now court can decide if CJ is corropt if so he should be punished as common criminal and if if is not found guilty he should resign as not guilty is not proof of innonance. If he is reinstated then it will be according to law but no justice will be served and damaging to presidency. If he is good man and has some feeling for killing of innocent people by oppositin parties for gaining more votes, he should resign and go abroad as he is openly indulging in politics against president of country. He has taken decision which had harmed reputation of country. Many missing people are Jihadis any may be ``missing`` to avoid being arrested as terrosist may be mostly in combat zones like Chechnia, A.stan. Kahmir,India, Eastern Turkestan ( China west). Now they want to miss as they know that they will be tried by anti terrorist courts and sentenced to death or life imprisonment for comforting and helping terrorist type things. All roubles going around in India, a.stan, Iran, China/eastern Turkastan and internal troubles due anti pakistani terrorists which are armed and financed by all above indian. iran, a.stan except china who is real friend and soon we will have free trade agreement and open borders for trade. Internal situation was bad but it has become grave due to opposition creating troubles and closing towns as protest is stretching the police thin. And terrorist are killing people. What is needed is stability for prosperity. Jail all trouble makes and have army rule for 10 years and then when things are good can have elections.

#19
Here is one video

Here is another

Rated R....

One commentator said, `` Maan chudi hoi hay Karachi ki behenchood!``

It is sad that people have taken chance to savage most modern and nonfudal party of pakistan and shown their bare racism against Urdu migrant and their only problem or fault being successful group. It is very similar to all christian and muslims finding all faults with jews and blaming them for everything what goes wrong in their their life or society. In pakistan the it is best to blame everything on them. Dr khan is MQM man with out his brilliance these people will be still driving camels and donkeys see rural sindh. If crroupt BB or NS was pm they would have sold khan for few dollars and to be skinned alive by americans. It is fortunate a cerebral general is carrying all burden for ingrateful retard sindhi and punjabis all burden of ruling this retards who live life on handouts from western countries and retards criticse General and his proamerican policy , dog biting feeding hand. Uncle P.M. you should whip these retards so they do not whine. What is big about CJ. PM compalined about corroupt ways about CJ and his son and then as a constitution defender President need to refer to Hightest court. He did as even what USA president will do, in old days when non MQM ruler like bhutto sr he would have just murdered and case finished or unfortunate accident and cj dead. There is latent under current of racism against dark skins in blood of these retards.For them killing MQM is fun and they were killed in thousands crudely and when like moses altafbhai rose like pheonix and put organization to confront facists of Punjabi Pathan Ittehad and they taught lessons to so called ``brave pathans`` those arrogent drivers were brought to justice swiftly by useing people`s power and cut to size when needed suddenly retards started realiazed MQM is fascit and armed.When BB and her racist fascit general Gen. N. Babaer was was killing dark skinned rats it was Kosher and halal. But when rats rose and began to bite they said rats must be exterminated. Perserve justice of retards. Salimbhai has pointedly ponted out the racism. Why they killed Bengalis as they are dark skinned and raping was done to improve racial upgrading was even said jokingly by retards and retard army. Worst they surrendered in droves to dark army, shame on them. Shah Waris has well said about this retards. Up to now every political party was at mercy and pleasure of army but MQM is first party where general has to call Altaf and discuss to get help. Slave parties of PPP and all opposition can tolerate leader who does not give damn to army and army has to send people to talk to altaf while BB and NS are are waiting like dog to give concessions by general and at mercy of general. That is reason they will cry for FAIR kaqshmiris but will never have word or help to bring 1 million poor pakistanis as their skin is dark while kashmiri skin is fair complexed. Altaf is trying to arrest taliban coming to karachi and while PPP will bring in Taliban to get BB PMSHIP.
Altafbahi has done well and from london he is managing pakistan and karachi and all big 4 cities of sindh and trying to bring provincial rights.
It is jungles law big animals do not cross area of other like tiger marks terrototy then other tiger avoids that. That keeps peace. What animals understand retaerds do not understand. Karachi was peaceful before CJ decided to cross in others areas. Urban Karachi is altaf country and punjab is Choudhary and rural sindh is BB country.Now President is Son of Urban sindh, his nationality/ ethinicity is same as altaf MQM. Now altaf did not go in other`s areas like punjab or rural backward sindh. He confines and rules 4 big cities of sindh, nothing less nothing more. When CJ came to Sindh is was trangracing against altaf and president son soli of Sindh Dharati and as Satrap its unnatural for altaf to allow CJ non mqm nationality to come to confront second most popular man/ presidet ( after Altafbhai) so all awam got irate and they went besurk and attacked CJ Tamasha as invasion of Urban sindh by alien oppressive group. Now as CJ has returned peace has returned. Do not transgrace turf of others and Altaf will not go in other areas. ( one of reason altafbhai care for President as MQMH no go areas were gone in few days when when army decided and MQM H is now history.). If politicans behave with respect to Altaf and MQM sensibilites urban sindh will be area of peace tranqulity but transgresser will be punished. MQM is best for friends and worst for its enemies.
Good Luck and hope common sense prevails and trouble makers keep away from Karachi.

#24
Sir
You have gone way ,too far in supporting barbaric MQM`s violence against innocent people........

So, all your post means that Karachi is oNLY for MQM....Great....Karachi si MQM`s property...great.
So, all you`re saying is that Pakistan is only safe,b/c of MQM...What a logic!
Alright, for few seconds I agree with you....
MQM is great, MQM is liberal(LOL)..MQM is the only tolerant party in Pakistan.All Pakistan`s progress is only b/c of MQM.....

But, my question is, then why MQM killed and brutalied hundreds of poor innocent Pakistanis?
WhyMQM is acting like Hindus/Indians considering other Pakistanis as their enemies?
MQM is the grand creation of General Zia ul Haq...and everyone knows that. Zia ul Huq made MQM just to break PPP.....And gave MQM every chance to flourish...

Now, MQM is being nurtured by another dictator Musharaf....
On one end MQM calls itself democratic party and on the other end backs up Zia and Musharaf....Who is fooling whom here?
Who is hypocrite here? who is ignorant here?...Just hink about it.

I can tolerate every hypocrisy done by MQM...And in the past I have never ever criticised MQM...
But, MQM has out date Dracula and has butchered innocent Pakistanis....And here you have all the nerves to suport them...What kind of human can support murderers?


I will never ever support murderers even,if, they are my own family memebers....This is called humanity.
And here you are in each and every thread blindly supporting MQM`sd criminal actions.....

Sorry, MQM needs to be banned.Enough is enough and all of their leaders should be hanged till death for killing innocent lives.......

Wha,if, they would have killed your close family members? Just think about it.
Karachi is an integral part of Pakistan.Each and every Pakistani has every right to belong to Karachi equally.......

Here is anothe utube about Karachi on May 12th.......

Courtsey of Geo Tv......



Even now, people are supporting those brutal actions of MQM.....I believe whoever supports those actions is equally brutal and is equally murderer.......

Pakistanis have all the rights to enjoy the very taste of democracy in it`s real sense with all it`s spirits. And why not? Each and every Pakistani is deprived of this taste for such a long time that they even forgot what is the actual taste of real and true democracy is? Majority of them even stopped thinking freely in terms of democracy. All these dictators (the vampires) sabotaged democracy for their tyranny.

Pakistanis should know that the real democracy is for the people, by the people with free judiciary. They should know that the only voice of poor and common people is the voice of democracy.

Army Generals hang democracy with their ruthless claws and suck the blood of poor Pakistanis to make them dead nation and they have partially succeeded in making them zombies with no voice, but, to act and dance at the tunes of army dictators.

MQM has played the major role in establishing Zia and then Musharaf....

So, the right way is to let democracy flourish in Pakistan with all it`s honesty...Army Generals don`t even give Pakistanis any chance to feel this beautiful thing, called democracy and they always are ready to rule Pakistan.....How much more Pakistanis could be stupid?

Pakistanis have become toys in the cruel hands of these dictators....Pakistanis need liberty, freedom from martial law and those ugly monsters, called President/Army chief.

Time has come for Pakistanis to learn tolerance and accept democracy as their savior, the only way they can be safe and free and only way they can progress...and the only way, they can practice their own faiths freely without fear of any kind.....


This is the current situation of martial law in Pakistan, it is just like a volcano...in which people`s emotion get blocked and suppressed and then at the end this volcano bursts and eats up everything in it`s way.....Just wait and see... Pakistanis will eat up this martial law.

Pakistanis run for your lives.......Musharaf will eat you all up.....break this false idol, called musharaf with your unity and discipline.....
Musharaf has already eaten up hundreds of innocent and poor Pakistanis..a wolf in the garb of army dictator.......a sucker....

Zeena your #25 post is wrong on many counts. Now that the video proof is out that it was PPP involved in the killings, why dont you write another reply now saying the same things about PPP. Or is that ok? PPP being involved in genocide during BB`s first regime is OK? Sheeri Rehman`s cronies firing on innocent people is OK? I know you hate MQM and Musharaf, but did MQM give the gun also to Shiree Rehman`s people to fire on MQMs supporters.
And Zeena, PPP has killed people close to me NOT MQM. So dont start blaming every killing on MQM. Look at the facts. That is the tragedy that Pakistan faces. We learn words like Democracy, and freedom in American Government and Politics 101 in any US college and then come here and show people how Western our thoughts are. Once again, I dont care if you blame MQM for every bad thing that has happened in Pakistan. Blame them for Bhutto hanging. Blame them for BB`s brother`s murder. Blame them for Zardari`s corruption. Blame them for BB`s lack of intelect. Blame them for everything. But also blame PPP with the same vigor when the proof comes out......

Re: # 28

Is that video proof, that you are referring to, available on the net eg on Youtube etc.

Re:#28 hasanmahmood sahib

Please, show me the video of the proof of PPP or any other party involved in Karachi massacre of poor innocent Pakistanis. Thanks

Now, let me make it very very very clear here on an open forum.

I hate anyone , any party whether PPP, Muslim league or MQM who are involved in any kind of dirty politics. I am not with corrupt PPP, corrutp Muslim league or any other corrupt parties of Pakistan.

I am just a well wisher for the poor innocent people of this unfortuante country, called Pakistan in which MQM, dictators, PPP,
uslim league etc, etc, etc have all done their job very well to make Pakistan # 1 corrupt country in the world.

But, the recent killings of MQM and the open support of MQM for musharaf( the dictator) will always be remembered as the masacre of poor oppressed people.......

Why Musharaf`s govt. was unable to stop killings of those innocent ones? Where was the military when we need the military the most? Where was Pakistani Police?
In all these videos open shottings have had been going on for the whole day...And cruel thing is not even a single person from army or Police came to rescue Karachi`s poor people....Why?

And now you`re comparing MQM`s violent actions with other parties...
C`mon give me a break......

Why do you think Pakistanis are not able to handle democracy? Why?
Why do you look down upon your own fellow country men?
Why do you consider Pakistanis should be treated like slaves under the dictator`s tyranny?

Why do you consider Pakistanis as less of humans?

And since when Pakistanis have been given any chance to taste the real democracy?
Always, dictators have had been enslaving Pakistanis minds, they never let them flourish,b/c it they would then there won`t be any place for them in Pakistan, there won`t be any tyranny.........

Let`s start from 1947....Ayub,Yukhwah,Zia, musharaf.........all these cruel dictators didi their worst jobs to make Pakistan the way it is right now.

All of them came , invaded Pakistan and then looted and plundered and killed innocent people and their next generations are living like kings and queens.......

These are the tragedies of pakistan...
But, it doesn`t mean that pakistanis should give up......they should fight for their freedom from the claws of tyrants like Musharaf backed up by MQM....
They should continue the process of democracy without halting......and at the end by ultrafilteration fair democracy will come out.......

If, we don`t give people chance and strat bombarding them with bombs of martial law and it`s allied parties like MQM, then how come we predict that Pakistanis are unable to handle democracy....

Pakistanis are not mentally handicapped, for heaven`s sake.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72k5JPvXhHg

At exactly 2:32 of the tape watch Sheree Rehamn enjoying the terror with her cronies on her side.......


Zeena and Urstruly, MQM has sent that tape to every news channel. It was shown by GEO and ARY. However because it is showing armed people standing on thee car of Sheeren Rehman while she and one other PPP minister are giving orders for those people to shoot on the crowd, thee news channels will be wary to show it every day. However in that video you cann see the people being pointed out and shown to belong to PPP. So that is the proof. Not Imran Khan (who has exactly one seat in the assemblies) shouting at the top of his lung or MMA denying the fact that they sent hooligans to create chaos in Karachi. I like Imran Khan but can someone ask him whether he will sue BB now that the video is out or is he going to hang on to their coattails for another seat in the next elections.
Zeena, the reason why I consider Pakistani incapable of handling democracy is because I have seen the proof. I have seen these people shout for BB and Nawaz even after what they did. I have seen these people with no civic sense. I have seen these mullahs rape our country to no extent. And you know what the politicians are still not satisfied. The problem is people of Pakistan have shown again and again that they do NOT deserve democracy. What they need is education, eradication of jageerdaars and vaderaas, and peace. What they need is common sense as to why they should not vote for corrupt people and the common sense to realize that if BB says that all cases against her are fabricated then she is lying. What these people need is basic civic sense to keep their country clean and healthy. What they need is to learn to love each other. What they dont need is people like us (well to do urbanites no offense to anyone intended) shouting democracy to them while sipping lattes and watching gora movies. These are the realities. What has democracy given to these poor people. Oh of course people visitng Karachi Gymkhana every day enjoyed calling their gora friends and telling them which NGO they belonged to or how they helped in achieving that democracy but tell me the truth. Do you really think a common poor person of Pakistan was better off during Nawaz and BB democracy or are they better off now.
And if talking about poor people is out of fashion nowadays, lets talk about teachers and professors. During BB and Nawaz, great minds of our country were forcefully retired and given nowhere to implement or teach their ideas. I know a lot of professors who were doing reasearch in US because they were treated as sewer rats by those governments. This government has brought those great minds back. The amount of research that is going on in the country was never to that level ever. If you want proof, I will provide it to you.
Forget teachers and professor, because they were never important to our society at least not when Bhutto was the prime minister. He just went ahead and nationalized every school.
Lets talk about all the economic factors. You say we are better off because America gave us aid. Well America would have given us aid no matter who the leader would be if we helped America. The only difference is with Nawaz and BB we would be looking at Raiwind Estate II and Surrey Palace II for her daughter. People would never see a penny of it. At least now when you travel on Karachi roads and look at the development you see where the money is going. At least now there is no jahil Sindhi sitting at the airport ripping apart travel documents of innocent Karaichiites who just want to go back to their jobs in the West.
Regarding MQM, I have no problems seeing them punished severly if they are involved. However, for that to happen, BB should be punished for the genocide she committed and Nawa should be punished for looting Pakistan`s wealth, and MMA should be punished for - well just being MMA, but that is the tragedy of Pakistan. Our own people, even after getting raped by these politicians will get up and won`t let those politicians be judged and punished. That is why my dear friend - Pakistanis dont DESERVE democracy.

#31 hasanmahmood sahib
Sorry to say na for my disappointment you are taking an open side for the violence of MQM here. What I am seeing in this tape is few people ( Who knows from which side) are just defending themselves.....

This whole violence was started by MQM. And I will never buy that MQM is innocent. This tape has convinced me more about MQM`s open violence against innocent poor Pakistanis.

Again, I am not from PPP or any party. But, it is strange that how you`re defending MQM for such brutality? sad, v.sad.

Yes, I understand the problems with some prties in Pakistan, but, that doesn`y mean Pakistanis are incapable of handling democracy. No , I won`t buy your ideology. Sorr.
Democracy in it`s worst form is better than any dictatorship...period.