Farhan Jamalvi May 17, 2007
#33 Posted by jzaki on May 23, 2007 7:17:49 am
Re: # 31
``That is why my dear friend - Pakistanis dont DESERVE democracy.``
My friend,
So many words to reach a conclusion that is not your sole prerogative!!!
If Americans still support Bush even after realizing to some extent what has been happening in Iraq (Bush`s approval ratings were 28% last week), this does not imply what your message is trying.
When we criticize our people for electing the same politicians over and over again, we ignore the fact that democracy is an evolutionary process. Let the poeple of Pakistan give a chance to see their elected government to the end of it`s constitutional term. People would see and filtering would take effect. However, thanks to all this meddling by the ruling elite of Pakistan, that chance never came. Look back and see how many ``normal & constitutional`` transfer of power events are there in our 60 or so years.
What you are saying is exactly the excuse given by each dictator (in Pakistan & in other places as well!)
So,
Let the people decide what they want. Let the system evolve for good!
Take Care.
p.s. A really good writing Mr. Jamalvi.
``That is why my dear friend - Pakistanis dont DESERVE democracy.``
My friend,
So many words to reach a conclusion that is not your sole prerogative!!!
If Americans still support Bush even after realizing to some extent what has been happening in Iraq (Bush`s approval ratings were 28% last week), this does not imply what your message is trying.
When we criticize our people for electing the same politicians over and over again, we ignore the fact that democracy is an evolutionary process. Let the poeple of Pakistan give a chance to see their elected government to the end of it`s constitutional term. People would see and filtering would take effect. However, thanks to all this meddling by the ruling elite of Pakistan, that chance never came. Look back and see how many ``normal & constitutional`` transfer of power events are there in our 60 or so years.
What you are saying is exactly the excuse given by each dictator (in Pakistan & in other places as well!)
So,
Let the people decide what they want. Let the system evolve for good!
Take Care.
p.s. A really good writing Mr. Jamalvi.
#35 Posted by Zeena on May 24, 2007 12:56:10 am
hassanmahmood sahib
Again, I also feel ashamed to see such corrupt politicians as PPP`s Sheere rehman...
This woman is a disgrace to all Pakistan......and the man besides her is also a curse to the politicians..
Just look @ the video..in which sheere Rehman is exposed to her filth...But that doesn`t mean that we should lose hope, we still should still srtive for democracy and trust me that`s the only way to filter these curses like Sheere Rehamn and the filthy man besides her.....these shameless creatures with such a display in public........tsk,tsk,tsk......
pathetic...
They are so desperate..........this is simply disgusting....
Again, I also feel ashamed to see such corrupt politicians as PPP`s Sheere rehman...
This woman is a disgrace to all Pakistan......and the man besides her is also a curse to the politicians..
Just look @ the video..in which sheere Rehman is exposed to her filth...But that doesn`t mean that we should lose hope, we still should still srtive for democracy and trust me that`s the only way to filter these curses like Sheere Rehamn and the filthy man besides her.....these shameless creatures with such a display in public........tsk,tsk,tsk......
pathetic...
They are so desperate..........this is simply disgusting....
#36 Posted by aquaris on May 24, 2007 2:28:38 am
Re: # 35
abhorable......utterly disgusting...
But I think Sherry was caught in a SITUATION.....
Lookl at the Guy with the Cap, he is trying to Press in, also the guy on the right, is cornering her.
...Its a Part of PPP culture, this shameless, ......whatever....
....in the 70`s when this downward slide or the nations morals was delibrately , induced.
Bohri Bazar , Karachi is witness to a Lot of such incident, when the rowdy, PPP jiyalas will
Bump and try to take advantage of the crowded and cornered, girls and womens, Many a time, the shopkeepers , would catch such a filthy Mind, ......and then the whole crowd
will give a DUE `` CHITROL `` to the Scum.
But times have changed, at that Time, the Scum cuaght would knew he has done something wrong, and would not resist much during the `` Chitrol ``, .... But Now, If you catch any one , doing such thing,....... He Might snap back, as if its his right, and you may even get a more voilent reaction , for example, he may take out a TT, or Gun , in response, and compromise the security all around.
This is the worst, Bhutto induced in the pakistiani polity, along with the Complete Break down of Education system [..... nationalization .....] , in the 70`s,
and has been in the PPP culture since then.
... and actually I feel sorry for Sherry to cuaght in such a ........... cornered .....
situation.
But then I also think she should have , reacted and given an appropriate response .....
which she didn`t ...... at least , not in the video ...
abhorable......utterly disgusting...
But I think Sherry was caught in a SITUATION.....
Lookl at the Guy with the Cap, he is trying to Press in, also the guy on the right, is cornering her.
...Its a Part of PPP culture, this shameless, ......whatever....
....in the 70`s when this downward slide or the nations morals was delibrately , induced.
Bohri Bazar , Karachi is witness to a Lot of such incident, when the rowdy, PPP jiyalas will
Bump and try to take advantage of the crowded and cornered, girls and womens, Many a time, the shopkeepers , would catch such a filthy Mind, ......and then the whole crowd
will give a DUE `` CHITROL `` to the Scum.
But times have changed, at that Time, the Scum cuaght would knew he has done something wrong, and would not resist much during the `` Chitrol ``, .... But Now, If you catch any one , doing such thing,....... He Might snap back, as if its his right, and you may even get a more voilent reaction , for example, he may take out a TT, or Gun , in response, and compromise the security all around.
This is the worst, Bhutto induced in the pakistiani polity, along with the Complete Break down of Education system [..... nationalization .....] , in the 70`s,
and has been in the PPP culture since then.
... and actually I feel sorry for Sherry to cuaght in such a ........... cornered .....
situation.
But then I also think she should have , reacted and given an appropriate response .....
which she didn`t ...... at least , not in the video ...
#37 Posted by Zeena on May 24, 2007 6:24:50 am
#36 aquaris
Such a public display of such vulgarity.....
This woman whoever she is letting that corrupt man besides him making those kind of advances in public......
Just look @ her face, her flirtacious gestures , smile and then shyness.....as if she is used to of such sexual abuse daily by her co politicians(PPP) and others.
It looks like she has become a toy of sexual pleasure for all these men right over there......
If, she wouldn`t have been happier, she should have had slapped right on the face of that Bas*ta*d.........and would have sued that SOB for publicly sexually harrassing her and exploiting her......she just smiled and instead combed her hair with her hands as if she wellcomed that perverted man`s sexual advances...................
This woman and man are a slap on the faces of Pakistani politicians.................bizaare....
Anyway, My message is not burqa, my message is , if, some people make fun of brave burqa clads with all the piousness and call them names in every post.....
Why are they silent for this so called MODERN Pakistani MNA?...Modern...my foot.
Even prostitutes don`t get involved for such a public display......
This pervert woman and the pervert man leading Pakistan and don`t have any character left...Such a public display with no shame....instead smiling........
Burqa or not burqa......that means nothing.....that is one`s choice.....
Main thing is how you carry yourself? How you display your character in private and in public?
Sheree Rehman and the man are appropriately dressed up,but, look @ the sexual perversion.....exhibitionist.....this is such a tragedy that Pakistanis have to accept such pathetic losers as their leaders........
In private, you are answerable to yourself and to God(Almighty) and in public you are answerable to God(Almighty), to yourself and to public.......
But, I am sure Pakistanis won`t say a thing about such a great displall accept it and not only that these two man and woman will win the election and will be Pakistani leaders........
Such a low class behaviour shows your background......
I showed this video to some of my colleagues in USA today and all of them were shocked and said,``oh, well why Pakistan has suck sickos as their leaders?Why this perverted woman is enojying such a public display? why she didn`t slap this man? why she didn`t call the police? Why she let herself sexually abused in public?``
I told them,``b/c Pakistanis are innocent nation, they think this is modesty and this modernism``.
I hope you got the message.......
Such a public display of such vulgarity.....
This woman whoever she is letting that corrupt man besides him making those kind of advances in public......
Just look @ her face, her flirtacious gestures , smile and then shyness.....as if she is used to of such sexual abuse daily by her co politicians(PPP) and others.
It looks like she has become a toy of sexual pleasure for all these men right over there......
If, she wouldn`t have been happier, she should have had slapped right on the face of that Bas*ta*d.........and would have sued that SOB for publicly sexually harrassing her and exploiting her......she just smiled and instead combed her hair with her hands as if she wellcomed that perverted man`s sexual advances...................
This woman and man are a slap on the faces of Pakistani politicians.................bizaare....
Anyway, My message is not burqa, my message is , if, some people make fun of brave burqa clads with all the piousness and call them names in every post.....
Why are they silent for this so called MODERN Pakistani MNA?...Modern...my foot.
Even prostitutes don`t get involved for such a public display......
This pervert woman and the pervert man leading Pakistan and don`t have any character left...Such a public display with no shame....instead smiling........
Burqa or not burqa......that means nothing.....that is one`s choice.....
Main thing is how you carry yourself? How you display your character in private and in public?
Sheree Rehman and the man are appropriately dressed up,but, look @ the sexual perversion.....exhibitionist.....this is such a tragedy that Pakistanis have to accept such pathetic losers as their leaders........
In private, you are answerable to yourself and to God(Almighty) and in public you are answerable to God(Almighty), to yourself and to public.......
But, I am sure Pakistanis won`t say a thing about such a great displall accept it and not only that these two man and woman will win the election and will be Pakistani leaders........
Such a low class behaviour shows your background......
I showed this video to some of my colleagues in USA today and all of them were shocked and said,``oh, well why Pakistan has suck sickos as their leaders?Why this perverted woman is enojying such a public display? why she didn`t slap this man? why she didn`t call the police? Why she let herself sexually abused in public?``
I told them,``b/c Pakistanis are innocent nation, they think this is modesty and this modernism``.
I hope you got the message.......
#38 Posted by Zeena on May 24, 2007 9:16:54 am
Either this video is rape...if, sheree rehman is not giving a consent to that. But, is happily surrendering in front of her rapist......And tragedy is, even rapists don`t committ such crime in public.....
But, here in this video, this monster is openly committing this crime of raping a fellow politician.................How can I trust this lady to be a role model for Pakistani women?, who
doesn`t have a courage to stand up for herself....how will she stand up for the rights of poor and oppressed pakistani women?
Now, other scenario is, if this is not rape...if, Sheree rehman and that monster ( two adults) have mutual consent of comitting this adultry in public....then why in public? Why are they so desperate?
On one end they are leading this procession for the freedom of Pakistan for democracy, on the other hand they are showing real freedom...yes, freedom for openly comitting adultry.....and both of them are the best role models...and leaders...leaders, my foot.....
Now, go figure out either this is rape or adultry?
Being Pakistani prominent leaders, they are answerable to such sexually perverted behaviour.......in front of Pakistanis people`s court.....
Pakistani nation needs their explanation.......their time is up.....and this is called real democracy.....
#39 Posted by jzaki on May 29, 2007 4:54:53 am
Re: # 38
Hi Zeena,
The clip is simply horrible.
However, I do not ``expect`` any apology from either of the two main characters. (Not that I wouldn`t like them to apologize in public & then never seek a position of any kind).
Our politicians are not made answerable to public. The constitution, norms, ethics are simply disregarded by these people. A politician would fear from public response if he/she knows that he/she`ll have to turn to the people after five years. Luckily, they never had to till now!
I believe that such behaviour as recorded on this tape could not go unnoticed in today`s Pakistan. It`s only that our people need to get a chance to hold the ruling elite accountable for their blunders; moral, financial, economic & strategic.
Regards,
Jawwad.
Hi Zeena,
The clip is simply horrible.
However, I do not ``expect`` any apology from either of the two main characters. (Not that I wouldn`t like them to apologize in public & then never seek a position of any kind).
Our politicians are not made answerable to public. The constitution, norms, ethics are simply disregarded by these people. A politician would fear from public response if he/she knows that he/she`ll have to turn to the people after five years. Luckily, they never had to till now!
I believe that such behaviour as recorded on this tape could not go unnoticed in today`s Pakistan. It`s only that our people need to get a chance to hold the ruling elite accountable for their blunders; moral, financial, economic & strategic.
Regards,
Jawwad.
#40 Posted by philosopher on May 29, 2007 6:54:24 pm
Re: # 38zeena
well zeena i dont think you should blame sheeren rehman for that. if you look the video a bit closely you would see that she was actually gonna push the hand of the man back.
well zeena i dont think you should blame sheeren rehman for that. if you look the video a bit closely you would see that she was actually gonna push the hand of the man back.
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