What Next After Karachi’s Carnage?

Here's a tale of two Pakistani self-haters and defeatists who enjoy every moment of hating themselves and their country: Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy and Asma Jahangir.
Whenever there is a writing project in any newspaper anywhere in the world where they want to bash Pakistan using a Pakistani name, they call one man in Islamabad: Dr. Hoodbhoy. He spews more venom against Pakistan than Hamid Karzai and Bal Thackery - an Indian Hindu terrorist - combined.
Asma Jahangir, another defeatist who went to India to shake the hands of Narendar Modi, the killer of 2500 Indian Muslims, has just volunteered to Hindustan Times to confirm that Mumbai terror was a Pakistani conspiracy [see below].
Here's a letter sent by a Pakistani young man to Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy, a Pakistani self-hater, and received no reply. And then watch Asma Jahangir's video.
Recommendation: We need to start a witch-hunt in Pakistan to cleanse our academia and public life of such self-haters and defeatists who poison the minds of young Pakistanis about their homeland. Such academics and human rights activists should not be allowed to hide behind the freedom of expression.
TO: Dr. Pervaiz A. Hoodbhoy
Professor and Chairman
Physic Department
Quaid-e-Azam University,
Islamabad.
E-mail: hoodb...@lns.mit.edu

NATION WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU

Dear Dr Pervaiz Hoodbhoy Sahib,

I have been reading your articles and research reports and watching your interviews on different TV channels on different issues. I have tried to go through your articles again and again to satisfy myself that whatsoever you are speaking in the name of freedom of speech is just an ordinary criticism and could be a difference of opinion.
But I regret to say that I am unable to do so. In dozens of your articles and interviews you have never ever said a single positive thing about Pakistan and have always tried to portray a false picture of Pakistan, according to which Pakistan is a failed state. Whether it's the issue of extremism, or Pakistan's nuclear assets, or Pak-India relations, or if there is an issue of western and Indian allegations, you have always come up with your nasty ideas to prove to the world community that whatever the enemies of Pakistan are saying, you are more than happy to say it from them, using a Pakistani identity, which is an act for which you feel no shame.

I am not sure if Pakistanis have seen your massive one-man campaign against Pakistan where you have alleged that we are not capable of retaining our nuclear assets. Or, now, after the Mumbai attacks, when even the cheapest of Pakistani politicians have shown some kind of patriotism and unity for the sake of Pakistan, at this crucial time again you are trying to prove what the enemies of Pakistan are trying to do. I fail to understand what motivates you except gaining popularity in West or even in India.

India is a so-called democracy where low caste Hindus, Christians and Muslims are burned alive [a ritual unique to India, doesn't happen anywhere else], where Hindu extremists are in the government, where groups like Bajrang Dal are trained in Indian Army schools. But India seems like Switzerland after reading one of your articles on India, especially the one you wrote recently after a visit to India. India's terrorist and rogue intelligence agency, RAW, which is funding and supporting separatist movements in our tribal belt and in Balochistan, continues to be an untouchable issue for you. What really is important for you is to put all your efforts toward portraying a negative Pakistan.

I give you an example from the history which you will find self explanatory in reference to our current scenario.

I am not sure if our enemies will impose a war on Pakistan or not but at this crucial stage all your efforts to distort Pakistan's image is not going to remain unnoticed and the nation will never forgive you for what you have done.

Wassalam.

Waqas Ahmed
Muscat, Sultanate of Oman

Re: # 1023

I am doing the same thing as I suggest others to do? And how many articles have
you read by me lamenting the state of Pak society, berating the mullah, lambasting
the HEC, etc.?

#1922 viqram sahib
Why don`t you go ahead and suggest some problem solving strategy? You are exactly doing the samething as you are suggesting others to do....

Why don`t you be the first one to chalk out our weak points and their solutions?....

Thanks

OK, let us say the law enforcement personnel surround Lal Masjid. No one is let in, or out. Utilities (electricity, water, gas) are all disconnected.

As the situation becomes desperate, some cohorts of the LM brigade somewhere respond with a suicide bombing.

What should be done next?

Should the commandos be sent in?

How should the fallout (reaction of irate families of the burqa clad regiment, and their supporters) in Punjab and NWFP be handled?

Should the army be sent in?

Would the army be willing to deploy and fight to put down the insurrection? What if it
refuses, imposes martial law, and a new military government takes over?

Would the good professor along with his hordes of secular enlightened brigade be
willing to pick up Kalashnikovs and give a battle?

I am a dumb old engineer who would like to see the A-Z of a proposed solution by
the good professor, or his supporters, to this deplorable situation (which now seems to
be spreading to the urban centers). Simply complaining, whining, name calling doesn`t
do a damn thing.

All kinds of experts, extremists, secularists, pecularists, male, female (with or without
burqa) are encouraged to take a shot.

Ready, steady g....

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Zeemax - I simply do not have any desire to read sanctimonious ramblings by a narrowminded extremist. The article was quoted in a certain context. And I ain`t wasting my time to make you comprehend something that you are not cut out to grasp. To each his own.

By the way, it`s in poor taste to use your aunty`s name to add spice to your bland posts. Be a man!!!

Try changing your communication style and approach and you may have better luck with your relationships and attitude.

Good luck :)

#1018 by zeemax on May 28, 2007 8:19am PT


Unfortunately it isn`t a pizza. It only comes with one set of toppings.


Islam is a pepperoni pizza...


yum...

#969 by ZahraJ,

Thanks for the article. For this time only I won`t call you aunty shamim nor refer you to Dr. Matlock`s clinic because I feel like being a nice guy today. However, I`ll still call you plain stupid.

The article you reproduce says:

To bring an end to Islamophobia, we must employ a holistic approach that treats the core of the disease. It will not suffice to merely suppress the symptoms. It is imperative to adopt new Islamic teachings

First, it is only some of the economic migrants in Western societies who are scared of Islamophobia. People in such category are a miniscule fraction of the Muslims who live in Islamic countries, and the latter don`t give a damn about Islamophobia as it doesn`t affect their circumstances or future in any major way, only that of the economic migrants.

Secondly, there are two ways to counter the Islamophobic societal pressure for the migrants. One is to hold one`s head high and assert one`s Muslimness (as most do in Europe), and the other is to be apologetic and say Islam is wrong from the outset and a `disease` and needs to be changed (as a few in USA etc may do). But in that case, for the people in this situation, why have Islam at all to completely deflect Islamophobia? Why, instead, insist on changing Islam for everyone who think it is fine as it is?

The problem is, everyone wants to remain with the mainstream Muslim identity, while condemn it at the same time. I have never understood why that is. After all they don`t kill apostates in USA or even Europe. What`re they afraid of?

Secondly, Islam is not available a`la carte. If it was a pizza, you could keep the benign crust (which are the rituals) and pick and choose your favourite toppings from amongst the ones available (which are all its other elements), or invent your own toppings, to be adopted as deemed politically correct at any given time and place.

Unfortunately it isn`t a pizza. It only comes with one set of toppings. Any attempt to redefine Islam is defeated sooner or later, regardless of how strong the forces advocating the same.

If you want to make a new Islam, be my guest. But then don`t call it Islam nor call yourself a Muslim. Call it EnlightenedIsm or something like that.

However before doing that, remember many other people much bigger than you or the author of this article have tried over the centuries and failed. If Akbar the Great with his Din-e Ilahi based on contemporary reason and ethical teachings common to all religions failed in his own empire, as did the great Mamoon-Ur-Rashid with his highly cerebral Mut`azili version, I don`t see how you or anyone else will succeed in doing the same.

Re: # 1010, Dear ZahraJ,

This is not fair on your part to decline sis Zeena`s invitation. Particularly when she has offered to pay the bill and has allowed `you to settle down your score with a... LOL`. Better enough, her fellow-cypher has refused to save her from this one way show of strength. Give a second thought and grab the offer.

Samar

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I am offering an official truce with my sista(ZahraJ) on this board for good.

Please, notice....

Zahra(sista)

We can also invite hoodboy and discuss this life and death issue over the table.....

May be all four of us can settle down the current crisis in pakistan.....
Anyway, I seriously wish to tell you...I have nothing against you....

If, you wish to be my friend,you are most welcome....If, you wish to be my enemy, you are most welcome.....

Whatever you wish to do...just tell me..I`ll be waiting for your decision..

#1011 philosopher

You`ll have your pop corns and enjoy wrestling between Zahra and me.....hahah

ZahraJ(sweet sista)

I told you to leave me alone..You did not.

Now, that I offered you a truce from the core of my heart....you declined.....

Yes, I know you and I are not like minded,but, then hey, we both can sort out a middle way..means let`s settle down in molly pitcher along with philosopher , how can I please you, my sweet sista?

I honestly wish to meet you now.....

Don`t worry about my family...My family won`t mind me meeting with a sista....

Alright, from now on I call you my sista....I will always respect your presence, I will always agree to disagree or agree to agree with you......

I apologize,if, I cause you any emotional or mental anguish.....I really do.....

Re: # 1009zeena

what would i get from it? i mean if you gals are like ``woman to woman``what would i be doing there?

ZeenaTania - Thank you for your kind invite, but I will have to decline the offer. As I had alluded earlier, we are not on the same wavelength so I would rather have us go our own ways. That should not stop you from enjoying a nice meal with your family. I am sure they`ll be happy to have you 100% with them.

Take Care