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What Next After Karachi’s Carnage?

Pervez Hoodbhoy May 16, 2007

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#928 Posted by arjun2 on May 26, 2007 6:06:23 am
damn...mo of arabia`s flock is all riled up....how long before allah`s homies go out and burn a KFC..

now would be a good time to post the mo cartoon..

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#927 Posted by ZahraJ on May 26, 2007 6:04:16 am
Re: # 921

It`s indeed amazing that the apology for a human being is so attracted to a pervert. I guess lifeless and purposeless 24x7 cyber extremists like to flock together.
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#926 Posted by ZahraJ on May 26, 2007 5:56:51 am
Zeemax aka Zahid whatever - Pervert !@# like you should be the ones to get lost for good. And next time if you have the desire to post obscenities towards anyone`s daughter or another interactor I suggest you do that towards your own family women or for a change forward them to your schizophrenic protege. I am sure the 24x7 cyber extremist will enjoy those. Street talkers should not try to be the saviors of the religion. That religion would rather discard both of you than represent it any shape or form. All this sham ain`t working. As I advised earlier, stop calling your family women again and again.

Go and see a vet!!!

Have a nice weekend!


rf786 - Please do not insult cute poodles by assosiating them to the cyber extremists. I expected kindness from you :)
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#925 Posted by zeemax on May 26, 2007 3:46:25 am
These appear to be strong arguments by Echoboom on outing closet qadianis:

1) There are two groups of Quadianis: one who consider [Mirza] a ``prophet`` & the other
who consider him only as a `` Mehsi``..the Jesus story is simply to confound & confuse the
``beneficiaries`` of this ``Scientology``.

2) A true giveaway of a Quadiani is his undying & ``unflinching`` loyalty & devotion to the goraa maashter. So even if [some interactors] are ``non-practicing`` quadianis, this aspect will always OUT them. This is like eating of Pork. No matter how irreligious, a Muslim will very seldom eat pork. Similarly the ONLy way to OUT a Quadiani is to make them say even an iota against the goraa-saab: US or Europe!

Not that they are not capable of negative comments: Their ire is ALWAYS reserved for Maulvis, Maudoodi, Mullas, Maulaanaas or Arabs. They will NEVER ever find anything good in them.

The second method to out them is to make them say something against their Ron-Hubbard . They will Never do that. Criticizing Arabs is a euphemism to make OUR prophet( pbuh) as ORDINARY, a NOBODY, ``who-cares about him``, `` Even only upto KG education is more important than Islamic education.


Comments, Sattar Saheb?
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#924 Posted by PM on May 26, 2007 2:05:32 am
re. abu_safwaan #917:
``i think literature is a little more than vulgar rhetoric and purposefully riling up emotions just to sell a few books.

I agree. But I have little reason to believe that such was Rushdie`s intent in choosing his content as he did. The riling of emotions could very well be purely incidental, though not unpredictable, I grant.

`` Call me old fashioned but shakespere, tolostoy, bernardshaw, elliot, ghalib, faiz, jalib, manto, iqbal, arudhati roy amongst others represent superior literature not Ann Coulter and salman rushdie,``

I wouldn`t for a second call you old fashioned for holding those writers in the highest esteem (though I don`t know how anyone`s name, except perhaps Ghalib`s, can be mentioned alongisde Shakespeare`s.) But for lumping an opportunistic, talentless twit like Ann Coulter with Rushdie, I could call you other nasty things. :-)

``..And given that you appreciate them taking a low-blow at not just a religion but a whole people, ...``

Wait a minute, that`s only your interpretation of the situation. Even if I somehow agreed that Rushdie took low-blows at a religion, I`m not quite sure how you deduce offence to ``a whole people``; assuming there one can actually distinguish between the two in the case of Muslims, which of couse is a BIG assumption.

``... i am not saying that you dont have a justified reason for being bitter, i am not proud of how minorities especially your kind is treated in our culture,``

Assuming the `your kind` bit wasn`t an attempted low-blow, abu sahib, you have nothing to be ashamed of unless you are a party to such `treatment` yourself. In any event, I`m rather tickled by the idea that I, who have always held that many educated (and, bad as this sounds, English-speaking) Chrisitans in Pakistan`s big cities actually benefit from reverse discrimination, should have such lowly motives imputed onto my actions and opinions.

``but supportingg anything and everything just because it has a ``supposed`` aniti-islamic undertone is petty.

I`m sure you`re referring to someone and something else here. Unless anyone suggesting that Rushdie is a talented writer is automatically ``supporting anything and everything just because it is (supposedly) anti-Islamic.``

Has it occured to you that the ``insult`` to Islam is merely incidental, and that such ``insults`` to other religions occur all the time but the followers of those religions (the ``whole peoples`` there) don`t necessarily feel the need to defend themselves against what, in the end, is innocuous art.

Chill, bhai! :-)
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#923 Posted by Zeena on May 26, 2007 1:58:49 am
This article is an extreme example of bigtory against Muslims..........
In reply to this article.....

God(almighty) give us courage to go straight on your path....the right path...and give us courage to fight with our own selves to defeat the demons inside of all of us........and show us light to see the clear difference between right and wrong...Ameen

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#922 Posted by Zeena on May 26, 2007 1:47:03 am
#921 re786 with multiple nicks(you and your wife are quite famous on chowk)
God(Almighty) bless you......

Call me names......if, that gives you pleasure....

My life doesn`t revolve around you, but, dear....
Your life surly revolves around me 24/7 trying to insult me, trying to belittle me, abusing me, cyber harrassing me................

Just think about it.....

You are cyber harrassing me..........I didn`t and I won`t......this is not the first time....
I could`ve done the same like you....having multiple nicks like you and start harrassing you and calling you and your family names....

But, I didn`t do that. Instead, I requested chowk staff to ban you....b/c I am a civilized person(Thank God).....

I will wait for chowk staff`s decision..........If, they will ban you for abusing me or not ....that`s their own choice to make....

My choice is not to retaliate against your abuse..........and report to chowk staff....
Your wife and you always on chowk.....and now with this nick.....LOL

Why don`t you get a life? my dear brother/sister
Instead of targetting me...why don`t you focus on those who really admire your abuse?

I already have a good life with the blessings of God(Almighty)....it`s you, my dear who needs life.....just think about it......

Well, calling me schizophrenic, delusional whatever won`t get you far............and trust me you are not insulting me....you are insulting yourself..............just think about it.

Well, God(Almighty) bless you with your abuse....

Keep on abusing me, if, that`s what gives you pleasure...........take care
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#921 Posted by rf786 on May 26, 2007 1:28:49 am
Re: # 834

{Please, BAN rf786 for abusing me and zeemax sahib for no reason at all. This interactor has been constantly cyber harrassing me......thanks}

LOL......life doesnt revolve around you....get a life, a real one away from this cyberspace, it has made u delusional, schizophrennic. Seek help, maybe our inhouse psychologist Dr. Sohail, or just a few hours away from the net....Ciao

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#920 Posted by aslam644 on May 26, 2007 1:17:09 am
Re: # 886
two of my relatives converted to ahmadi-islam for political asylum in uk then reverted back to real islam once they got it.

the american money rumours are spread by the local maulvies.
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#919 Posted by rf786 on May 26, 2007 1:11:31 am
Re: # 840

{like the Australian Imam Sheikh Hilali said .. `uncovered meat` that attracts cats}

Classic perverted, misogynistic mentality.

Change cats to ``dogs on heat``.....

Regards

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#918 Posted by Zeena on May 26, 2007 1:06:02 am
#917 by abu_safwaan
Re:
[[[[[i think literature is a little more than vulgar rhetoric and purposefully riling up emotions just to sell a few books. Call me old fashioned but shakespere, tolostoy, bernardshaw, elliot, ghalib, faiz, jalib, manto, iqbal, arudhati roy amongst others represent superior literature not Ann Coulter and salman rushdie, given that you appreciate them taking a low-blow at not just a religion but a whole people, i am not saying that you dont have a justified reason for being bitter, i am not proud of how minorities especially your kind is treated in our culture, but supportingg anything and everything just because it has a ``supposed`` aniti-islamic undertone is petty. We deserve better from those who claim to be rational.]]]

Exactly, that`s my stand on Rushdie and taslima`s anti Islamic kneejerk filthy rhetoric is!
When I read rushdie`s ``satanic verses I felt tht it was just a third rated book with nothing in it.Absolutely humorless......

Then I realized why that book got repute? just b/c it was all about insulting our Prophet(PBUH)............written by some kindergartner`s mind...........or by some <40 IQ brain...

Even,a kindergartner would have written a better fiction..............

I tried my best to find a lil bit of humor............nothing, except insulting Mohd(PBUH)....
Then I thought this person,called rushdie is just some tortured soul who is taking his anger or frustrations out on Islam..............There was no point of writing that book....
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#917 Posted by abu_safwaan on May 26, 2007 12:44:23 am
Re: # 916

Me defensive? hardly ever maybe thats why i get caught more than i get lbw but Patrick Masih sahab i think literature is a little more than vulgar rhetoric and purposefully riling up emotions just to sell a few books. Call me old fashioned but shakespere, tolostoy, bernardshaw, elliot, ghalib, faiz, jalib, manto, iqbal, arudhati roy amongst others represent superior literature not Ann Coulter and salman rushdie, given that you appreciate them taking a low-blow at not just a religion but a whole people, i am not saying that you dont have a justified reason for being bitter, i am not proud of how minorities especially your kind is treated in our culture, but supportingg anything and everything just because it has a ``supposed`` aniti-islamic undertone is petty. We deserve better from those who claim to be rational.
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#916 Posted by PM on May 26, 2007 12:18:27 am
``And considering salman Rushdie as a modern day tolosty or shakespere just because his writings have according to you ``supposed`` anti islamic undertones--well, thanks for that little insight into where you`re coming from.``

LOL! Can you get any more defensive, abu sahib?

To many of us, Rushdie`s genius as a writer was established well before Satanic Verses (which most would agree wasn`t even his best work). Of course, most Muslims didn`t take much offence to the allegory in Midnight`s Children since the protaganist there also seem to question India`s nationhood.

Mian, you can accuse Rushdie of being less than sensitive to Muslims sensibilities (once those ``sensibilities`` are charged up by ignorant folks who can`t be expected to know about fictive devices). But his genius as a fiction writer is pretty indisputable. Of course, what you`d expect of him is to sacrifice his muse, and his brain, at the altar of Respect for Irrational Sensibilities of a certain section of population who don`t think twice about openly insulting others and their religious icons.
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#915 Posted by zeemax on May 26, 2007 12:17:29 am
#912 by shamimJ,

I`m not on the internet 24x7, and I have nothing but contempt for shameless aunties like you.

Get lost.

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#914 Posted by Zeena on May 25, 2007 11:53:44 pm


Mohd(PBUH) is our last prophet and is a perfect example of humanity for all the world...
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#913 Posted by Zeena on May 25, 2007 11:50:35 pm
As for as this article is against Islamic ideology............
I am more convinced that what people need today is the complete faith....nothing but faith.......



Allah is one and Mohd(PBUH) is the last prophet...........
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