What Next After Karachi’s Carnage?

Re: # 966

Hamidm - I am glad that you are taking the muloon from Surah Lut to task. The duffer`s verbal diarhea is just a distraction from the real issues.

#951 by zeemax on May 27, 2007 2:43am PT



while ignoring that Muhammad`s first wife was older than him and all the rest were nowhere near being even teenagers


So mo`s choices were eclectic..from 6 year old girls to grannies...good thing chris hanson and NBC`s to catch a predator weren`t around in 7th century arabia...

#951-#955 ``Rindae` Mazhab`` - Get a life. Your actions and steps towards a married schizophrenic are simply in bad taste. That`s not ``jaiz`` in Islam. Have some shame! I guess we need to ask Farzana Versey to help you regain your senses.

PS: Islam does not neet `rindae` mazhub`` to support it.

#946 by ZahraJ,

Yeah I`m Zahid Maqbool. Now come and wrestle me. But not before a visit with Dr. David Matlock I`m afraid, because then I wouldn`t be interested.

Zeena,

Ohh, so chowk is now full of mirzaiis....why?

It is because they only have the internet now to spread their qadianiat. They don`t have any forum after being kicked out of Pakistan and looked down upon with distaste by even the expatriate Muslims. It is only the internet which gives them access to Pakistani/Indian so-called Muslim munafiqs to get any sympathy.

If you google for Islamic websites, a majority of them will turn out to be qadiani sites ... though you`ll need to drill in a bit.

#943 by Zeena,

Honest? Yes that`s what he pretends to be indeed. But in fact he`s a polite but forked tongue cheater who tries to gain credence with all schools of thought (except Islam) through being a `thali ka baingan` to veer people away from Islam. This is a typical qadiani tactic.

Do apply the Echoboom test for outing qadianis at #925 to posts of tahmed32 (and zahraJ, and hamidm2, and rf786 amongst others. You`ll find it very interesting).

... contd ...#951

Now please ask hamidm2 to abuse Mirza for lusting after Mohammadi Begum and his threatening `dire consequences` through prophecies `in writing`, which are on record, if her parents did not agree. (her parents told him to eff off and the prophecies went down the toilet as well ... but that`s another story)

If hamidm2 doesn`t do the above, no doubt will remain that he is a qadiani, and he must henceforth diesist from all protestations to the contrary.

#947 by PM,

I don`t know what constitutes abuse in your lingo either, because you`re of the variety who had said to each other at the time of Lahore riots on independence ``Saadey kolon ayadi mangdey ney ...``

But just to humor you, I will persist with your argument. Hamidm` abuses Muhammad`s marriage to Aisha (engaged at 9 and married at 13 upon puberty) which he terms as pedophilia, lifted right out of faithfreedom.org, while ignoring that Muhammad`s first wife was older than him and all the rest were nowhere near being even teenagers (Except Safyya who was 18) at time of marriage to Muhammad:

Ages of Muhammad`s wives at time of marriage:

Khadijah: 40

Sawdah bint Zam‘a: Divorcee of 55

Hafsa bint Umar: Widowed at 18 and married Muhammad at 20.

Zaynab bint Khuzayma: Previously married and widowed at Badar.

Umm Salama: Widow of a Martyr of Uhud. Age 29.

Zaynab bint Jahsh: Divorcee after a failed marriage to Muhammad`s adopted son Zayd.

Juwairiyah bint Al-Harith: Age 20.

Ramlah binte Abi-Sufyan: Married at 29 and co-habitation at 35.

Safiyya bint Huyayy: 18 or 19.

Maymuna bint al-Harith: 36.

The purpose of above is neither to convince, nor to argue with non-Muslims or apostates. This is just to avoid the charge of bigotry and dismissing these people`s charges out of hand.

Some of above marriages are controversial, but don`t side-track the issue now by bringing those up. The issue right now is `pedophilia`. How does the above evidence support that?

That is the abuse I`m talking about. If I call hamidm a dog, I need to prove he`s indeed a dog by showing clearly he lifts up his left leg while pissing in his plate.

Regards :)

Re: # 951

zeemax,

......... is that a complete list ?

Re: # 951

zeemax,

........... please provide the reference where i accused the prophet (pbuh) of pedophilia - i might have questionedal-lah`s judgement and abu bakr`s motives in allowing this rather sad affair, but i don`t think i ever abused the prophet (pbuh) .......... anouzobillah !

......... and as far as al-lah mian is concerned, what i say about him cannot possibly hurt him - after all, he is omnieverything and far above the fray of common men ........... and abu bakr? ...... well, as far as i am concerned, he was just another power hungry politician who did what he had to do - in that he was no different from the chaudarys of gujrat and hakim ali zardfari .............

......... hope this calms you down a little bit ..........

......... and why should i abuse muhammadi begum?....... i don`t see anything wrong with lusting for a married woman as long as her husband is not your adopted son ............

Hood(lum) Bhai who has distinguished himself through his staid writing must be patting himself on back and wondering as the number of interacts approaches the magic figure of 1000. Unfortunately, the interaction is nothing but an intra-pak pow-wow with Pakistanis of all hues going for each other`s jugular daring, abusing, accusing, alleging, indicting, proving superior knowledge of Islam, Qur`an, disparaging.......
Quite naturally, one feels, after all that might be the shape of things to come after the Karachi carnage.
However, rf786, tahmed32, hamidm2 need to be complimented for their balanced, sober and studied interactions.

re. sanatani #945

``Why the fkk does the moon god of Arabs say there is not god but me. I mean this betrays him to what the fkk he is a charlatan and narcisst. ``

beyTa, kuchch cheezeiN tumhaaree samajh ke bahaar hee rehengey.

I mean, just for argument`s sake, what if there IS only one God, in any sense of that word?

If you can start to understand that saying that ``one cannot serve two masters``, you might begin to understand the whole ``there is not god but me`` deal.

That said, there are passages in the Old Testament, where God actually goes ``You shall put no god before me``. Now with that you can make a case for a narcissitic deity. Karen Armstrong does, in fact, in The History of God.

re. sanatani #945

``Why the fkk does the moon god of Arabs say there is not god but me. I mean this betrays him to what the fkk he is a charlatan and narcisst. ``

beyTa, kuchch cheezeiN tumhaaree samajh ke bahaar hee rehengey.

I mean, just for argument`s sake, what if there IS only one God, in any sense of that word?

If you can start to understand that saying that ``one cannot serve two masters``, you might begin to understand the whole ``there is not god but me`` deal.

That said, there are passages in the Old Testament, where God actually goes ``You shall put no god before me``. Now with that you can make a case for a narcissitic deity. Karen Armstrong does, in fact, in The History of God.

re. zeemax, who writes in #941:

``[Hamidm], If you`re not a qadiani, lay some abuse in the way of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and his family just in the manner you lay abuse upon Muhammad and his family.``

LOL! Kiss and tell?

But seriously... hamidm`s abused the Prophet? hmm.. I missed that. Or maybe any criticism is counted as abuse in your book, Zee?

If a distinction does indeed exist to you, maybe you can reproduce, or simply point to, some of these abuses, preferably before advising me to work on my immigration papers again. Thanks. :-)

And the pervert old dog ``Zahid Maqbool aka Zeemax`` continues his barking. And his pushtun schizophrenic protege spends most of its ``happy married life`` on the cyber ezine going braless, promoting shiraz and exploring others`sects. Typical of demented pushtuns! The readership is curious if the make-belief husband knows about the schizophrenic`s leanings. We see the signs of divorce on the horizon.

Last but not least, the ``dumb schizophrenic`` goes around harassing, stalking and abusing other interactors for expressing their candid views. Due to ADD, it forgets its own rude behavior towards other. When the poor schizophrenic does not get any attention, it starts weeping, posting islamic websites and chanting out of context prayers. A hypocrite par excellence!

There is a hikmut behind everything. Probably, both unstable characters were meant to meet each on this cyber ezine to spend a useless and purposeless life together. Street urchins attract each other.

Islam does not need to be supported or saved by these unstable and despicable pests.

One wonders why these Muhajirs felt insecure in India or maybe threatened in terms of their economic future. These lowlifes I think are too damned clever.

This article was about the peace loving Muhajirs (as described by Salim Chauhan who were to form an alliance with the Sindhi, Pathan, Baloch, Hindu and Kristis to overthrow Punjabi hegemony over Panjab and end paindoo ness etc) and the nice little tea party they had in Karachi.

Look what it has turned out to be. Somebody is talking about Ahmadi, some about Sunni, some about Maulvi some about Jihadist some about Sherry some about pervert BUT nobody is talking about what these lowlifes BLOOD BRETHEREN of the lowlifes of our country the Bhaiya Mussalmans of UP, Bihar, MP, Deccan and Maharashtra did to ordinary peace loving folk in Karachi.

Salim Chauhan is right the all the Muhajirs want is Piece. A little Piece of Pakistan and little pieces of Punjabis, Sindhis, Pathans and Balochis to be followed by even littler (or more little for the gramatically correct) pieces of Hindus and Kristis.

Sanatani