What Next After Karachi’s Carnage?

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Why Bangladesh hates India

Obviously the photo has been taken from the archives, the khaki uniform is a dead give away that the man who is being carried off is a Pak Ranger.

dm #240 It is a question of time it seems, but I dont see how he can continue after the outrages of May 12. The question is: will the next military chief demonstrate respect for the rule of law, or will he prove to be just another dictator making false promises of relinquishing power once the crisis is over.

zeemax: thanks for providing answers to the questions I had about mqm.

having said that, I dont know why you keep posting this picture of an indian soldier. that man died doing his duty to a democratic nation, and no amount of disrespect to his body can change that. this is crazy!

tahmed32:

I think that it is perhaps too late for him to redeem himself. If he had made such a declaration before the CJ/Karachi crisis, he would probably have won the respect of most Pakistanis; now he may not be able to win an election as a civilian either.

#245 it aint over till the fat lady sings. :-)

but seriously, let us keep our fingers crossed and hope that musharraf shows the wisdom he decidedly lacked on May 12.

re: #235 by arjun2

{{Just last month they whacked a bunch of pakis}}

Where?

#242 by muqaddam,

Chutya click the link above the photo.

#244 by tahmed32.

Guess you missed this one then. This is really juicy!




Ummm ..

Re: # 248
A bhangee will sooner or later be betrayed by his language.

re: #242 by muqaddam

{{Obviously the photo has been taken from the archives, the khaki uniform is a dead give away that the man who is being carried off is a Pak Ranger.}}

Pak Rangers wear dark grey shalwar kameer. They don`t wear khaki uniforms. However, the Indian Border Security Force (BSF) does.

I don`t know why you guys are so dumb:

The Rediff Special/Ramananda Sengupta

Why Bangladesh hates India

December 21, 2005

Increasing infiltration across the border. Terrorists sneaking into India. Regular skirmishes with men in uniform on the other side.

This is not Pakistan we are talking about. In recent times, another neighbour has swiftly emerged as a major security concern for India.

Rediff India Abroad Deputy Managing Editor Ramananda Sengupta visited Bangladesh recently looking for answers to the big question: Why is such trouble brewing on India`s Eastern Front?

Part 1: The new terror frontier?

Part 2: The rise of the Right

In the crowded, bustling market just opposite Dhaka`s plush Sonargaon Hotel, Abdul Majid sits on a small stool on what passes for a pavement. A colourful assortment of vegetables adorns the green tarpaulin spread on the road in front of him.

Above 60 now, Abdul was in his early thirties during the tumultuous days that preceded the birth of Bangladesh in December 1971. He ran a small grocery shop in Jessore, with his wife and two children.

And he was a razakar.

Literally, it means `volunteer`, but in Bangladesh the word is synonymous with traitor, and used to describe those who opposed independence from Pakistan and helped in the murder and rape of millions of Bengalis as part of Islamabad`s scorched earth policy.

Many razakars were also members of the Jamaat-e-Islami or other religious parties which owed allegiance to Islamabad. Abdul was a follower of Jamaat leader Golam Azam, who led the razakars.

While many razakars and most Jaamat leaders including Golam Azam fled to Pakistan when it became obvious that the birth of Bangladesh could not be aborted, many, like Majid, could or would not.

Days after independence, a mob of angry neighbours stormed Abdul`s shop and set it ablaze. His five-year-old Border Security Force troopers on the Indo-Bangladesh border in Meghalayadaughter, who was severely burnt in the fire, died five hours later.

Badly beaten up by the mob, Abdul fled with his wife and son to Dhaka, where he now makes a living selling vegetables.

When his shop was attacked, ``there were Indian soldiers in Jessore. But they refused to help when I approached them with my dying daughter,`` says Majid. ``And you want me to love India?``

According to Majid, ``If we were still a part of Pakistan, would India have had the nerve to bully us the way it is doing now.``

Anwarul Ahamed, 21, is no razakar.

The young Dhaka University student takes pains to explain that he is not personally anti-India, but he can well ``sympathise with the growing sentiments against our western neighbour.``

For one, he says, ``how can India expect gratitude from Bangladesh for helping during the liberation struggle, when everyone knows that it was in India`s interest to do so?``

Categorically denying that Pakistan was helping fan the anti-India sentiment in his country, he avers that the rising anger against the ``Hindu fascist`` country was fanned by India`s actions.

``After our independence, India has time and again treated us with condescension and disdain. You have threatened to cut off our water sources. You have repeatedly accused us of harbouring anti-Indian rebels on our soil. Your border forces regularly attack our villages, rape our women. You accuse us of flooding India with illegal immigrants. And while mouthing platitudes about a free market, you deny us the right to sell our goods in India without tariffs. We might be poor, but we are Bengalis, we have some self-respect,`` he declares.

He disagrees with his classmate Samiran Mondal, who argues that acute poverty and illiteracy are being exploited by the Muslim fundamentalists, who preach hate and violence against India at the Quami madrassas which are funded by Saudi and Pakistani charities.

``The problem of hating India actually is not only about hating India but it has a deeper meaning,`` explains Arnab Tagore, a Bangladeshi youngster who is now a medical student in Toronto.

``You see, India liberated Bangladesh in 1971, and around that time, India was very much liked in Bangladesh. The way majority of the Bangladeshis hate India now is the same way Jamaat-e-Islam, the religious fundamentalist party, used to hate India,`` he says.

``This Jamaat-e-Islam party has come a long way. In India, even though the effect of Hindu nationalism is dying away slowly, in Bangladesh Islamic fundamentalism is rising. Now in Bangladesh you have to show that you are dedicated towards the Islamic cause in order for you to get votes. On the other hand, in India a political party has to show that it is secular in order to get the votes of undecided voters.``

``India has made some mistakes as well,`` he adds.

``However, each and every mistake had been overstated in Bangladeshi newspapers and propagated by the Jamaat-e-Islam. Let me give you some mistakes from the Indian side.

``One, around the border the Indian army was responsible for shooting at some innocent people. the Jamaat-e-Islam and the ruling BNP propagated this incident as `India Bangladeshi-der mere kete sesh kore dicche (India is killing everyone in Bangladesh).` To tell you the truth, that isn`t the case. More people die in Bangladesh due to disease. They also forget to mention that BDR (the Bangladesh Rifles) itself has killed some Indian soldiers in a barbaric way.

Image: Villagers with the body of a Border Security Force soldier killed during clashes with the Bangladesh Rifles


``Two, India was actually responsible for the water problem through the Farraka dam. From the legal side, even though Villagers with the body of a Border Security Force soldier killed during clashes with the Bangladesh Rifles``Bangladesh cannot touch India as water is considered a resource of particular countries, for the sake of moral understanding India should have been more careful regarding this problem. This water problem has caused various environmental problems in Bangladesh.``

``Three, there are some stupid fanatic Hindus in India who talk about independent Bangabhumi, that they would break India and create an independent Hindu republic,`` says Tagore.

``According to the secular people of Bangladesh and other sources, there might be no more than 100 people supporting this movement. What they do is as soon as Hindus are attacked in Bangladesh, they spout some anti-Bangladeshi remarks on the border. That`s it!``

``However, the BNP portrays them as having 10,000 soldiers ready to take over Bangladesh. They also accuse India of not catching them. Well, how can you catch something if it doesn`t exist?`` he asks.

``Along with hatred against India, the hatred against Hindus has risen alarmingly as well. The Jaamat knows that the minority won`t vote for them and they need to alienate the minority, `` he concludes.

``India loses nothing by accommodating its neighbours,`` says former Bangladesh foreign secretary Mommahed Mohsin, quoting late Indian national security adviser and former foreign secretary J N Dixit. ``But sadly, instead, it prefers to use a patronising tone.``

Most people in Bangladesh agree that the growing anti-India feeling in their country mirrors the rise of the Jaamat.

Despite being accused of war crimes, and despite holding a Pakistani passport, Abdul Majid`s mentor, Golam Azam, was pardoned and allowed to return to Bangladesh as the Jaamat leader in 1977 by General Zia-ur Rahman.

Following an uproar against Azam after the restoration of democracy in 1990, a case was lodged against him for heading the Jaamat while holding Pakistani passport. But the supreme court ruled that he was a Bangladeshi by birth, and restored his citizenship.

In the June 1996 election, the Jamaat won only three seats.

Matiur Rahman NizamiIn December 2000, Azam resigned and Matiur Rahman Nizami (left) became amir of the Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh. In the 2001 election, the Jaamat got 17 seats, and Nizami was named minister of industries in Khaleda Zia`s cabinet.

``The Jaamat has been consistently and virulently anti-India, long before Bangladesh was born. Khaleda Zia knows that she won the election because of her hardline position against India,`` says an Indian official. ``While she may or may not personally support their more radical demands like the imposition of Sharia law, she is politically beholden to them, and hence dare not antagonise them,`` the official adds.

``Besides, she seems far too busy running down (Opposition leader) Hasina to bother about such mundane things like running the nation,`` he says.

``She also hopes that by fanning the flames of anti-Indian sentiment she will be able to distract attention from the more pressing problems plaguing the nation. The problem, as far as India is concerned, is that she uses her ultimate weapon with aplomb: Absolute denial.``

Re: # 244

Tahmed - Don`t you have better things to do on a beautiful Friday evening than posing reasonable questions to unreasonable creatures?

Samar -

I know you will come back with more questions to have a better understanding of a muslim mindset. On every Friday, I recommend that you start asking the religious, irreligious, moderates, progressive and noncomformists about their Friday prayers. I want you to track it down. That will help you with your future questions :)

Z

Just to sign off for the day, here`s another one for the delight of aunty shamims aka zahraJs and the hindoo retards who think Kashmiri Jihad is better swept under the carpet ...


An unidentifed Indian police offiicer shouts for help as another runs for shelter after a bomb blast in Srinagar, India. Both later died from their wounds.

The one lying on the ground is Arjun_m`s dad, and the one running is Arjun_m trying to find help with his balls shot off. Both were consigned to hell anyway as the caption reports ... and will continue to be.

Thought I would checkin to see if there was any interesting discussion..

But other than a mentally-ill person posting photos of dead and dying people, there doesn`t seem to be a whole lot going on here...