Abrar Akbar May 20, 2007
#60 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2007 10:09:17 am
In #59 read <<< like outside the country >>> as
<< lie outside the country >>>
<< lie outside the country >>>
#59 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2007 10:05:22 am
aslam writes <<< BTW I am researching this development theory topic and it will thoroughly and absolutely discredit your theory. >>>
You are ``researching`` it, I have already researched it, published about it and teach it and big names (whose calibre of research you will never reach) like C W Mills, Wallerstein and countless others have done, are all in tune with what I state, empirical evidence is in tune with what I say, the global economy and its institutions are not dominated by peons like you but by the Western (particularly) US elite, by their decisions and lack thereof they can bring whole countries to their knees. Unless you buy into the Eugenics theory of Caucasian superiority (scientifically discredited), there is no other explanation for third world underdevelopment except the sociological/institutional one and the blame lies squarely with the US elite. And yes I reveal these facts to my students 240 of them this semester alone and they all (the very vast majority) agree with me against the BS of your kind, the kind that tout the ``cell phone revolution`` development BS. The cause of our underdevelopment like the underdevelopment of countless others (in no way is Pakistan unique in its poverty and underdevelopment) like outside the country, it is a global issue not a personal trouble of peculiarities of a particular nation state, the blame lies squarely with the US elite...
You are ``researching`` it, I have already researched it, published about it and teach it and big names (whose calibre of research you will never reach) like C W Mills, Wallerstein and countless others have done, are all in tune with what I state, empirical evidence is in tune with what I say, the global economy and its institutions are not dominated by peons like you but by the Western (particularly) US elite, by their decisions and lack thereof they can bring whole countries to their knees. Unless you buy into the Eugenics theory of Caucasian superiority (scientifically discredited), there is no other explanation for third world underdevelopment except the sociological/institutional one and the blame lies squarely with the US elite. And yes I reveal these facts to my students 240 of them this semester alone and they all (the very vast majority) agree with me against the BS of your kind, the kind that tout the ``cell phone revolution`` development BS. The cause of our underdevelopment like the underdevelopment of countless others (in no way is Pakistan unique in its poverty and underdevelopment) like outside the country, it is a global issue not a personal trouble of peculiarities of a particular nation state, the blame lies squarely with the US elite...
#58 Posted by Subedar on May 23, 2007 8:42:17 am
Pirzada
Some Rafat Pirzada claiming Sharifuddin haram zada’s brother mailed me after my comments on now defunct SAT and threatened me to expose my identity so they could fix me up.
The following note I wrote back to Sharifuddin Pirzada and his family.
Hello!
Scientists say that with the exception of very few species cross-breeding is not possible. For instance mating horse and donkey results in mule.
According to zoologists mating a swine and a bit ch will not produce anything, supposing that one can persuade a pig to f u ck a bitc h. Or even if one uses assisted insemination it wouldn’t help.
I am pretty sure that scientists and zoologists are missing something important. If one accepts their verdict then how can we explain the existence of Shariffudin Pirzada?
There is no other way to have such an abhorable character like him without coupling a wild boar and a truly nasty bit ch.
I suggest that genetic analysis of this h ara m zada should be done and the world would see that they have so far missed a truly strange specie.
If given chance I would not degrade my saliva by spitting in his fac e.
Instead of asking my address, give me yours and I may come by sometime to see pig+bit ch = pitch or should we call swine+dog= swog.
Shut up.
***************
I think I must add two more persons should be done genetic tests on.
That ex Lahore High Court Justice Malik Qayyum now appearing for Musharaf of tape fame and La-Qanoon minister Khasi Zafar.
Some Rafat Pirzada claiming Sharifuddin haram zada’s brother mailed me after my comments on now defunct SAT and threatened me to expose my identity so they could fix me up.
The following note I wrote back to Sharifuddin Pirzada and his family.
Hello!
Scientists say that with the exception of very few species cross-breeding is not possible. For instance mating horse and donkey results in mule.
According to zoologists mating a swine and a bit ch will not produce anything, supposing that one can persuade a pig to f u ck a bitc h. Or even if one uses assisted insemination it wouldn’t help.
I am pretty sure that scientists and zoologists are missing something important. If one accepts their verdict then how can we explain the existence of Shariffudin Pirzada?
There is no other way to have such an abhorable character like him without coupling a wild boar and a truly nasty bit ch.
I suggest that genetic analysis of this h ara m zada should be done and the world would see that they have so far missed a truly strange specie.
If given chance I would not degrade my saliva by spitting in his fac e.
Instead of asking my address, give me yours and I may come by sometime to see pig+bit ch = pitch or should we call swine+dog= swog.
Shut up.
***************
I think I must add two more persons should be done genetic tests on.
That ex Lahore High Court Justice Malik Qayyum now appearing for Musharaf of tape fame and La-Qanoon minister Khasi Zafar.
#57 Posted by Subedar on May 23, 2007 8:37:13 am
Colonel saab,
The malice, corruption and dishonesty are no more confined to upper starta. It has seeped to the very foundation of once a while superb Pak army. The very core has been rotten.
Today’s papers are reporting that
***********
UN troops `traded gold for guns`
By Martin Plaut
BBC News, eastern DR Congo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6681457.stm
Pakistani UN peacekeeping troops have traded in gold and sold weapons to Congolese militia groups they were meant to disarm, the BBC has learnt.
************
Now it was not the top command that was doing all this. It was mid-level and junior officers who were involved. I hope that you will not now say that it was subedars and havaldars (JCOs & NCOs) that were running this business.
What frightens me most is that there were no consequences for those involved. How could the current lot of senior officers so busy with their Dollar deals and political games reprimand their juniors for such “minor” faults? In the absence of moral authority everyone is concerned only with his own pocket.
The malice, corruption and dishonesty are no more confined to upper starta. It has seeped to the very foundation of once a while superb Pak army. The very core has been rotten.
Today’s papers are reporting that
***********
UN troops `traded gold for guns`
By Martin Plaut
BBC News, eastern DR Congo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6681457.stm
Pakistani UN peacekeeping troops have traded in gold and sold weapons to Congolese militia groups they were meant to disarm, the BBC has learnt.
************
Now it was not the top command that was doing all this. It was mid-level and junior officers who were involved. I hope that you will not now say that it was subedars and havaldars (JCOs & NCOs) that were running this business.
What frightens me most is that there were no consequences for those involved. How could the current lot of senior officers so busy with their Dollar deals and political games reprimand their juniors for such “minor” faults? In the absence of moral authority everyone is concerned only with his own pocket.
#56 Posted by okhla99 on May 23, 2007 5:28:34 am
Re: # 53
Aslambhai,
How can you compete with Masadi`s ``research`` in his ``institute`` with his ``students``?
Masadi is widely read and admired on Lulu.com(his popularity ranking there is 22,357). Masadi will soon win the ``Nobel`` prize for the Elites vs Peons theory.
Us dimwits cannot even begin to appreciate the depth of his ``intellect``.
Aslambhai,
How can you compete with Masadi`s ``research`` in his ``institute`` with his ``students``?
Masadi is widely read and admired on Lulu.com(his popularity ranking there is 22,357). Masadi will soon win the ``Nobel`` prize for the Elites vs Peons theory.
Us dimwits cannot even begin to appreciate the depth of his ``intellect``.
#55 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2007 2:50:30 am
#50 Masadi
Thank you, sir, for taking the time to answer my question. Your views are unconventional, no doubt, but they are definitely original and like all things original - are being attacked and ridiculed by individuals here who have no clue to originality.
I hope you continue to refine your views (most things can be refined and improved through reexamination of the axioms) without being cowed down by any one.
#53 Posted by aslam644 on May 23, 2007 2:33:03 am
Re: # 50
Masadi
I only hope you are not poisoning young impressionable minds with your discredited theories. The west may have done terrible things in the past , but to blame the west for all the shortcomings of developing world is intellectual dishonesty.
BTW I am researching this development theory topic and it will thoroughly and absolutely discredit your theory.
Masadi
I only hope you are not poisoning young impressionable minds with your discredited theories. The west may have done terrible things in the past , but to blame the west for all the shortcomings of developing world is intellectual dishonesty.
BTW I am researching this development theory topic and it will thoroughly and absolutely discredit your theory.
#52 Posted by muqaddam on May 23, 2007 2:11:36 am
Re: # 35
We all would like to agree with you, there is no doubt that the soldier standing at -50C on Siachen is following his orders and expects little more than a life of honour and dignity, but how long does the greed take to percolate to the junior ranks when corps commanders, div commanders and brigade and garrison commanders start lining their pockets and cornering premium land acreages? The malaise seeps down the chain of command, no doubt.
We all would like to agree with you, there is no doubt that the soldier standing at -50C on Siachen is following his orders and expects little more than a life of honour and dignity, but how long does the greed take to percolate to the junior ranks when corps commanders, div commanders and brigade and garrison commanders start lining their pockets and cornering premium land acreages? The malaise seeps down the chain of command, no doubt.
#51 Posted by okhla99 on May 23, 2007 1:52:43 am
BJ Kumar #49
You stand completely exposed as a hypocrite plagialiser who hates muslims and spews venom against them. How come you get ``provoked`` into using filthy language and I don`t??
I will never use the kind of language you do. And then you have the galls to appeal to Chowk editors to interfere.
Just remember....
It is you BJK,who has been banned again and again from Chowk.
It is you, BJK, who recieves public whippings on Chowk from time to time.
It is you, BJK, who is forced to apologise abjectly again and again.
It is you BJK, who is ignored by a number of Chowk writers and editors including decent ladies (you know the names).
It is you, BJK, who unabashedly plagiarises material and claims it to be his own.
It is you BJK, who uses words like ``Kutta`` and ``Harrami`` while I will never dream of using this type of filthy language.
But then,
I sometimes forget that you hate muslims.
I sometimes forget that you hate Pakistan.
I sometimes forget that the hatred resides in your blood.
I sometimes forget that the hatred clouds your reason but manifests itself in your posts.
I sometimes forget that you basically are an intelectually dishonest person (``fake``).
Read your # 49 once again. Maybe an apology is in order.
And, by the way, we all know who is the one beneath contempt.
You stand completely exposed as a hypocrite plagialiser who hates muslims and spews venom against them. How come you get ``provoked`` into using filthy language and I don`t??
I will never use the kind of language you do. And then you have the galls to appeal to Chowk editors to interfere.
Just remember....
It is you BJK,who has been banned again and again from Chowk.
It is you, BJK, who recieves public whippings on Chowk from time to time.
It is you, BJK, who is forced to apologise abjectly again and again.
It is you BJK, who is ignored by a number of Chowk writers and editors including decent ladies (you know the names).
It is you, BJK, who unabashedly plagiarises material and claims it to be his own.
It is you BJK, who uses words like ``Kutta`` and ``Harrami`` while I will never dream of using this type of filthy language.
But then,
I sometimes forget that you hate muslims.
I sometimes forget that you hate Pakistan.
I sometimes forget that the hatred resides in your blood.
I sometimes forget that the hatred clouds your reason but manifests itself in your posts.
I sometimes forget that you basically are an intelectually dishonest person (``fake``).
Read your # 49 once again. Maybe an apology is in order.
And, by the way, we all know who is the one beneath contempt.
#50 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2007 12:34:52 am
#47bjk
The basic premise is fulfilment of the needs of the people of Pakistan for that purpose the basic ``goals`` of industry and social institutions need to be altered before anyone can lay claim to any surplus, if that involves getting rid of private industry, I am all for it. If that involves telling the IMF/WB that their debts will not be repaid ever and they can go to hell, I am all for it. If that involves protection of industry and tariffs on imports, I am all for it. If that requires land reform and taking away at paisas to the rupee the prime real estate that the Army has distributed as booty to its officers, I am all for it. Staying within the current global order that has institutions like the ones mentioned above for the purpose of subordinating the developing world, will produce no results, a total breaking away/detachment from that system is required but is impossible if not done in collusion with other developing nations, for that reason all these fake borders created by the colonials for the purpose of control will have to be eliminated...
There is no democracy in the world at present so there is no model or steps that can be followed, the structure will emerge only after the event... As far as Okhla goes his kind, once the people recognize them for the leeches they are, will be humiliated, dragged through the streets of the cities and then packed in a plane headed for Florida where they will join others of their kind that fled from Cuba a long time back, good riddance...
The basic premise is fulfilment of the needs of the people of Pakistan for that purpose the basic ``goals`` of industry and social institutions need to be altered before anyone can lay claim to any surplus, if that involves getting rid of private industry, I am all for it. If that involves telling the IMF/WB that their debts will not be repaid ever and they can go to hell, I am all for it. If that involves protection of industry and tariffs on imports, I am all for it. If that requires land reform and taking away at paisas to the rupee the prime real estate that the Army has distributed as booty to its officers, I am all for it. Staying within the current global order that has institutions like the ones mentioned above for the purpose of subordinating the developing world, will produce no results, a total breaking away/detachment from that system is required but is impossible if not done in collusion with other developing nations, for that reason all these fake borders created by the colonials for the purpose of control will have to be eliminated...
There is no democracy in the world at present so there is no model or steps that can be followed, the structure will emerge only after the event... As far as Okhla goes his kind, once the people recognize them for the leeches they are, will be humiliated, dragged through the streets of the cities and then packed in a plane headed for Florida where they will join others of their kind that fled from Cuba a long time back, good riddance...
#49 Posted by bjkumar on May 22, 2007 8:54:27 pm
#48
Abey okhla,
Yes, I said those words. But those were spontaneous words said on the spur of a (very provoked) moment - unlike your words - which are mean and which are calculated and intended to injure an individual who has never done you any harm!
Now let us see YOU do what I had done shortly after I spoke those words - I apologized. So, let us see you apologize to the Masadi. Well?!!
Sala tu khaki bootlicker Pakistani khali akadnaa jaanta hai! Screw you!
Masadi is unusual material but he is not a faker like you! I may disagree with him but will defend his right to speak.
Harrami Okhla - you find my lousiest of words and hoard those like those khakis of your land hoard the riches of that land in their own asses!
You - like those khakis - are an absolute kutta! Beneath contempt!
You are just as fake as a certain faker of verses who hounded these halls like a mangy canine till that person was eased out - and who shall remain unnamed here - that two-bit chicken!
Now okhla, go screw yourself!
#48 Posted by okhla99 on May 22, 2007 8:34:32 pm
BJKumar,
Stop butt licking ths evil Masadi. His imaginary elites vs peon theories have been comprehensively rejected eveywhere except lulu.com.
We all know your own history of intellectual dishonesty, blatant plagiarism and causing distress to Farzana Versey. For that you recieved a public whipping on Chowk. Do you want your abject apologies to be posted again on Chowk???
As far as language is concerned, please note that I have used civil language in all my posts.
Check out your own
<<< #155
Dear dumbass Muslim-Atrocity-apologist!
Since you are, in all likelihood, an absolute moron - perhaps even a chowk fat-cat - not to mention an utterly ludicrous piece of sheet who can not get your ass moving one inch without dragging the Book with it and perhaps one who can not read a word of text unless interpreted by a Mullah ... let me repeat parts of #153 for the benefit of you and all the other utterly moronic fixtures of this chowk den who lie to themselves that they are ``intellectuals``!
From #153
[...No amount of “we are the victim”, or “you got problems, too”, or “it is a conspiracy to defame Islam” can change that simple fact. ....]
Read ars-hole ...READ!
I SAID READ!!!!
And then go screw yourself! >>>
The above are your words, BJ Kumar....yaad aayaa??????? And then you have the audacity to criticise other civil interactors.
Step down from that pedestal, you hypocrite, plagiarising muslim-hater moron !!!!
#47 Posted by bjkumar on May 22, 2007 11:56:54 am
#45 (add-on)
And there is no reason why you should have to respond to personal insults that the likes of the Okhla have pestered you with in #42.
While chowk staff is out having an affair somewhere...
#46 Posted by bjkumar on May 22, 2007 11:54:22 am
#45 Masadi sahib
I am having difficulty understanding your answers here. I do understand what you said about chaos - all power transitions involve a degree of it.
Can you describe to me the scenario and the sequence of steps that you would like to take place in Pakistan - who would emerge as a good leader and who would not (from EXISTING leaders) and the type of (specific) acts that they could take to improve the lot of fellow Pakistanis (a noble objective).
I am also unclear about this ``self-detached`` business from the world system. But I am more keen to get your perspective on the Pakistani political order.
#45 Posted by masadi on May 22, 2007 11:08:36 am
bjk (1) names matter not, institutions do and when they are being restructured there is chaos but structure eventually emerges. That chaos is much preferred to the long slow painful death the Generals are leading this country to
2) Yes, but not without collaboration with other countries that have self-detached themselves from the World System, that is the only path to our development
Okhla= I was never fired from the US university, nor deported from the US. I freely chose to return home unlike you who pontificates lies but has no guts to take similar action. Go to hell because the country you live in, even though it is presented as ``sweet`` is quite hellish as far as the state of humanity in it goes. It is a factory that creates morons and destroys the human spirit, that is your land of the ``free`` the one that incarcerates more people per capita than any other nation on earth...talk about hypocrisy...
2) Yes, but not without collaboration with other countries that have self-detached themselves from the World System, that is the only path to our development
Okhla= I was never fired from the US university, nor deported from the US. I freely chose to return home unlike you who pontificates lies but has no guts to take similar action. Go to hell because the country you live in, even though it is presented as ``sweet`` is quite hellish as far as the state of humanity in it goes. It is a factory that creates morons and destroys the human spirit, that is your land of the ``free`` the one that incarcerates more people per capita than any other nation on earth...talk about hypocrisy...
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