The General vs. the Judge

#305 by zeemax on May 28, 2007 12:45pm PT
#304 by rf786,

>>>How do you mutarwas lay claim to Jinnah?

Looks like you have a claim on Mr Jinnah . Did you know that two of Mr Jinnah`s grandsons were shot dead in a fake police encounter in Kharadar in 1994 on the orders of your hero Mr naseerulla babur? Just because they were middle-class Karachiites with no political connections?

Is there another nation on this earth which is so ungrateful to its founder and his family?

I have told you before that it is time to declare a ceasefire put an end to this mud-slinging which you appear to enjoy ( and to stop fantasising that General Niazi`s modern day version will conquer Karachi once again) .

Otherwise the political consequences for Pakistan will be disastrous .

... and don`t even mention Liaqat Ali Khan. He was nothing but an opportunist about whom Jinnah had passed the remark about fake coins in his pocket, and who had said about Jinnah on his deathbed that `Budha abhi mara nahin`.

It took a Pathan`s bullet to rid Pakistan of him at the behest of a Punjabi.

#301 by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 12:26pm PT


Sleembhai,

This boond-i-kaana is now a confirmed Salafist. He doesnt believe in native (Indian/South Asian) Islam.

Alternatively he shifts btw drinking Salafism and sniffing the creations of Dr. Matlock.

He`s a curious. He`s different.

#304 by rf786,

Jinnah was no Upiite low-class. He was a Bombay Ismaili Khoja but a great Muslim. He didn`t even know Urdu. How do you mutarwas lay claim to Jinnah?

Re: # 299

{I haven`t heard of any UPite in a long time with enough guts to do that. Not even during the Pakistan movement. Have you?}

Thats because u were busy listening to your beloved Khaskars, JUI and JI idiots opposing the creation of Pakistan, had u been paying attention to the real movement ie Jinnah League u wud have known better, then again u r but what u r ie a rascist, hypocritical bigot.

#301 by Salim_Chauhan,

There`s only one Islam. The Lal Masjid kind. But you`ll take some time to understand that.

#292 by GT,

But yes. Notwithstanding my previous post, that would be a brilliant thing to do. But Mohajirs lack that kind of commitment to Pakistan to actually face death for it. So one will be difficult to find.

#300 Zeemax,
Then I follow a different Islam than you. Maybe that`s the underlying problem. When Jinnah agitated for a separate Muslim homeland, he did not specify which type of Muslim - Bengali, Punju, Bhayya, Pathan, or Sindhi. Obviously, there are numerous shades of Islam with important differences in how Muslims believe and behave. I think that we are getting somewhere. There was no single Islam, there is no single Islam, and there will always be many many interpretations. That is the main problem - forcing different people together into one state based on a nebulous concept of religious unity. :(

#298 by Salim_Chauhan,

If you ask me this question, you know nothing about Muslims.

Muslims are no saints in times of adversity. They`re ruthless with enemies regardless of colour, creed or race. Only once they have subdued them, then they become saints.

#292 by GT,

I haven`t heard of any UPite in a long time with enough guts to do that. Not even during the Pakistan movement. Have you?

#297,
So Zee Sahib,
Which is the real you - the racist, bigoted, hateful Paki Punju or the egalitarian, compassionate, and loving Muslim saint?

#296 by Salim_Chauhan,

When you accept no colour, creed or race, only then Islam will be in your heart. Till you don`t, enemies remain enemies. Islamists will not add to their number at their doorstep.

#291 Zeemax {``After it`s all said and done, you`ll see what will emerge. Islam, which knows no creed, colour or race``}

Zee Sahib,
I told you to refrain from your hypocritical rhetoric regarding Islam. Islam may not know any color or race, but racist, bigoted, Paki Punju Paindoos like you sure do - have you forgotten your wish that all the ``stranded`` Muslim Pakis in BD rot over there? Now, repeat after me ``I am a hypocrite just like Chacha Chaar Sau Bees.`` Now do that while holding each earlobe with your respective hand while standing up and sitting down. :)

#281 GT {``Salim and Manto:

OTOH it is amazing to see people like the two of you state that you will be willing to side with the fundoos.... for the same fact but two diametrically opposite interpretations. I know that Manto is honest, and if you are honest too, then both of you are being taken for a ride. Manto, I know, will wake up. You need to wake up too ... and if you do then the persecution of Mohajirs will stop through lasting (necessary) coalitions.``}

GT Sahib,
MQM formed coalitions with both Bezamir and Besharif in their respective first reigns. Each time MQM was stabbed in the back, and Karachi/Hyderabad were victims of massacres, looting, oppression, and occupation. We are better off with the moolas we don`t trust than the devils we trusted and were proven wrong. At least the Moolas won`t kill us because of our Indian origin.

Re: # 281
GT

Lathin ke bhooth bathon sey naheen manthey, especially those who are made of lies, deceptions, bigotry and self-righteous pomposity. Pee-Max is numero-uno when it comes to bigotry may it me religious or ethnic. So save your energy for those who can be redeemed.

#288 Zeemax {``You may be right. So fkk Lucknavis too .. (Actually I have about a dozen I guess :)``}

Zee,
So where was your kotha - in Chowk or Aishbagh? I knew they used to import some HijRas from Poonzab, but how did you perfect your accent in Urdu?