The General vs. the Judge

#248 by sanatani Re: # 220

... par us din mein Krodhit hua tha aap pe jab apne mere baat ko vyangya samjha tha par aaj mere krodh ke seema hi paar ho gayi. Kshama Yachna Karte Hu.

Yaar translate tau kar do ... :(

Muhajiran de paan de choodo phuddi muhajiran de maan hondyian ne randi

Haan yey samajh aa gya ... ! :)

#247 by sanatani,

Sanatani Bhra ... you were right all along. It`s just that I never believed these guys could go to such extent as they did on 12 May. I had thought Jinnahpur was just a pipe dream of some lunatic, but now when I ask some Sindhi insiders, they tell me I`ve just seen the latest step towards that. So my apologies to you.

#243 Che {``Furthermore, the fact that you called protester who were armed to their teeth ``peaceful`` makes me think that their is some truth to the widely held opinion on Chowk (that reaches across all ideological divides) that you are indeed a HYPOCRITE.``}

Che buddy,
I wasn`t merely whistling Dixie. :)

#247 sanatani,
Welcome back you mental escapee from across the border. I am glad that you have reared your ugly head because it`s going right back in your rear. The Paki Punju Paindoos need all the help they can get, but your help is like Olmert coming to rescue Abu Abbas. :)

#246, Urstruly,
Why are all these ``Bihari-looking`` people burning Huge Grant`s effigy while carrying pictures of Uncle Jemima?

#217 Wasif2 {``Give them their Jinnahpur for some time and ask them to survive there. Withdraw all Punjabis and Pakhtoons``}

Wasif,
That`s all that we are asking. Whether we name it Jinnahpoor or Altafganj is our business. Just get your paindoos out of Karachi and Hyderabad and leave us alone. We`ll see who cries uncle first. Don`t forget that the huge Mohajir diaspora in UK, US, ME, and elsewhere is ready to support MQM with huge financial resources. All of my charity goes to MQM now. None for the bastards in the north.

#219 anil {``Don`t you think you would be better off to suggest how you foresee the rights of 15 million people must be guaranteed in Pakistan, than in thinking about of destruction of Pakistan? ``}

Anil,
Insanity is sometimes described as doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. We have tried ``democracy.`` Under ZAB, Bezamir I, Besharif I, Bezamir II, Besharif II and it was always the same - mass killings, looting, corruption, oppression. The military regimes, while not much better for us under Ayub or Zina Owl Hack, have been somewhat less oppressive. In fact, the reason why Mohajirs appreciate Mushy, is because he put an end to the decade long murder and persecution of Urdu-speaking people at the hands of Punjabi forces.

Now, we don`t expect anything different from PPP, ML (N), or even the PPI - LOL. At least the Mullahs won`t kill us because we are Urdu speaking. They may persecute us for not growing beards or because most of our women prefer not to be covered in tents. But, as long as the suffering is uniformly spread and not ethnically, racially, or linguistically motivated, we can at least feel equal.

#221 rf786,

Bismillah Bhai,
Thanks for the welcome. Your many posts, especially #229, have provided all the proof that Marie Antoinette needs before she finds the guillotine and worries about the blade messing up her hairdo.
It`s bad enough that all these atrocities, murders, and cruelties took place in our cities against our people for about a decade, but it`s pathetic when these Punjus and their allies refuse to acknowledge our suffering. I too lament the loss of human life on May 12, but let`s restore a sense of proportion here. Thousands killed by their own country`s forces and no remorse or compassion from these racists. Chacha Chaar Sau Bees and his hypocrisy, while lamenting on Pakistan`s misfortunes, stand solidly in defiance against the repatriation of ``stranded`` Pakistanis from BD. What they are telling us is that you Mohajirs in Karachi and Hyderabad should consider yourself to be second-class Pakis and be proud of it. By the way, we will let in 3 million Afghans, but we will not allow 300,000 genuine Pakis to come home. Someone called it just right, Chacha Char Sau Bees is the mahapunju hypocrite of them all. Good work, you and Binyamin Sahib are shoving the truth into their collective orifices - Peemax, Chacha, and the born-again Vishnu from across the border.

#219by anil

anil sahib

In my post # 250.....I mentioned constituency comes later and general body elections comes prior to that.......

Now, may be this concept would be hard for a simpleton like you.............
Let me explain it here on this post.....

What I meant by holding General body elections is not just casting votes,but, when people are ready to have that democracy/change in their thought process....and only then comes the constituency....this is the preparation for the constituency.....and trust me Imran Khan is ready for that change.....

#216 by Urstruly......

[[There is LOW and then there is MQM low. How low can one get? This much.......]]

Urstruly sahib

Exactly...What can you expect from the killers of 48 innocent Pakistani Karachiits?

MQM(mafia) needs to be banned for the betterment of Karachi and for the betterment of Urdu speaking people..............

Altaf(psychopath killer) needs to be hanged to death.............simple....

Re:#219 by anil

[[[Don`t you think you and Zeena should discuss incosistencies in her 12 or so points she posted elsewhere? [[[In these she wants Imaran to be the Prime Minister, and then proclaims democracy must come in Pakistan first. Does not she realize such wants and democracy can be contradictory? Imran Khan must build a constituency large enough in democracy to get elected to be the largest party.]]]]

[[[She further suggests that Musharaff can contest election, but must be first tried to murder of 48 or so people. Can she not see contradiction in the two?]]]

Such contradictions can only be attributed to lack of understanding about the democratic process. ]]]]

anil sahib
#1: Yes, I do wish and I believe Imran Khan is the most suitable person right now for PM ship of Pakistan........Don`t you realize what you are saying is actually contradictatory to democracy.......

#2:Who am I? I am one of the people of Pakistan and I am also voice of Many people who wishes or want Imran Kahn to be the next PM of Pakistan.....

#3:-Now, what is democracy? democracy is the want or voice or wishes of people...for the people and by the people.......Just think about it

#4:-mran Khan has already built and is building his strength.........He will never give up....
And don`t you know constituency comes later and general body elections always come before constituency....

#5:-Yes, Musharaf is free to contest for general elections, if, this man wishes to like all other Pakistani citizens.........But, this man first has to have a trial for the deaths of 48 innocent Pakistanis......Where is contradiction in this sentence?

And If you realize this is the called democracy and this is called People`s democracy.....where people have every right to know who is murderer and who is their leader?

I am absolutely NOT contradicting myself.....I am giving the fairest form of democractic establishment in the history of Pakistan......

Sorry, I must say, you do have a lack of understanding about democracy......And , you are also giving me a very weak arguement with your lack of obviously clear understanding.......

But, it`s not your fault......May be democracy in India runs the same way as you suggest...where butchers like Modi are roaming free and your democracy is still ready to see that butcher as your leader.........just think about it.....

My democracy is more fiarer, more for the people and by the people....where as your democracy is blind, where even murderers can be elected and where people have no say.........

So, who is contradicting whom or who is naive here?......Just think about it.....
Thank you....

#243 cheguevara: I re-read your post, and agree that I was reading disabled and mistook your reference to some political party. On your other point about my not saying anything to zeemax but criticising you - that is because coming from you this was not expected. So please call my a hypocrite as long as I am not writing ethnically offensive material myself while calling on others to refrain. I have good friends among ``muhajirs`` (never thought of them as ``muhajirs``, just as friends).

As for the substance on ``who will challenge mqm`` - rest assured that it is mqm`s weakness, not strength, that is keeping the rest of the country from acting in the same manner as mqm`s goons. the rest of the country just isnt frightened enough. let us pray it remains that way, but dont be under any illusions like your friend madani that panjabis and pathans are baluch are shaking with fear from mqm. just pray the country finds peace and restores democracy without further bloodshed.

Re: # 220

Zee Bhaiya,

Sorry for the H word salutation at the begining par us din mein Krodhit hua tha aap pe jab apne mere baat ko vyangya samjha tha par aaj mere krodh ke seema hi paar ho gayi.

Kshama Yachna Karte Hu
Sanatani

Muhajiran de paan de choodo phuddi muhajiran de maan hondyian ne randi

Re: # 220

Zeemax Harraami ki Bacche,

When in Salim madarzaat`s article with or without musharraf I said these bastards are trying to brk your country you said it is a joke.

Now you write such a post accusing the Matrbhumi of playing with these gaddars who were instrumental in its vivisection.

Having said that we have accepted partition and do not wish to undo it (unless a majority of you revert back to the the Sanatan Dharm, Hindu Samaj and Bharat Mata).

AND NEVER DO WE WANT THESE BASTARDS BACK, IN FACT GIVE THEM JINNAHPUR TAKE THE VALLEY AND LET US EXPEL THE REST OF THEIR VERMINC COUSINS TO JINNAHPUR AND WE SHALL ALL LIVE HAPPILY APART.

Are yeh aapko Shobha nahin deta aise jhoot bolo. We are not for the Muhajir and their Scum relatives who live here.

India mein Hindu galat Pakistan mein Bangali phir Sindhi phir Pathan Phir Panjabi phir pata nahin kaun.

In haramzaadon ke saath koi nahin reh sakta.

Regards Take Care
Sanatani