Tariq Ali May 25, 2007
#320 Posted by HP on May 28, 2007 1:52:34 pm
Chauhan,
To determine where you stand, I just want to ask you a simple question:
What do you prefer Sooji ka Halwa or Gaajar Ka Halwa?
Btrw, tumahari sooji hoi kiyon hai aakher?
#319 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 1:48:15 pm
HP Saain,
Aapko Karnal wala tamasha yad he? Kiya phir se aapki jughrafya ka ilaaj ho jaaey?
Aapko Karnal wala tamasha yad he? Kiya phir se aapki jughrafya ka ilaaj ho jaaey?
#318 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 1:46:30 pm
#316 HP {``MQM is secular as long as it is fighting Alqaeda (JI) in Karachi for votes. The minute JI is uprooted from Karachi, MQM will go back to Sooji ka Halwa. ``}
LaserJet Saain,
Jab ilzaam lagaaeN to itna ke yaqeen aaye, warna aap ka toner kum hojaayega or maathey ka bulb blink karega. :)
LaserJet Saain,
Jab ilzaam lagaaeN to itna ke yaqeen aaye, warna aap ka toner kum hojaayega or maathey ka bulb blink karega. :)
#317 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 1:43:13 pm
Folio #306 {`` Sleembhai,
This boond-i-kaana is now a confirmed Salafist. He doesnt believe in native (Indian/South Asian) Islam.
Alternatively he shifts btw drinking Salafism and sniffing the creations of Dr. Matlock.
He`s a curious. He`s different. ``}
Folio,
Zee Sahib is a real anamoly - maybe we should call him Inam Ali. :)
He drinks like Hamidum Sahib, prays like Urstruly, hypocritically pontificates like Chacha Chaar Sau Bees, has the morals of Ali1, the sexual boasting of Atif2, and follows his mentor, Satani over the cliff of civilized discourse.
For a long time I believed that most Pakistani Punjabis were compassionate people who really abhorred the misdeeds of their soldiers in East Pakistan, Karachi, Baluchistan, and elsewhere in Pakistan. For a long time I believed that Pakistani Punjabis were not bigoted, racist (as if they had any reason to be!), and wanted genuine egalitarian environment for all Pakistanis. Coming on Chowk and learning the convictions of people like Chacha Char Sau Bees, Ali, Atif, Zeemax, Charlie, Shoebig, Ally, Sobia, and other notorious mahaPunjus, I have been utterly disappointed - at the expense of my nationalism and even faith in the legitimacy of Muslim unity.
This boond-i-kaana is now a confirmed Salafist. He doesnt believe in native (Indian/South Asian) Islam.
Alternatively he shifts btw drinking Salafism and sniffing the creations of Dr. Matlock.
He`s a curious. He`s different. ``}
Folio,
Zee Sahib is a real anamoly - maybe we should call him Inam Ali. :)
He drinks like Hamidum Sahib, prays like Urstruly, hypocritically pontificates like Chacha Chaar Sau Bees, has the morals of Ali1, the sexual boasting of Atif2, and follows his mentor, Satani over the cliff of civilized discourse.
For a long time I believed that most Pakistani Punjabis were compassionate people who really abhorred the misdeeds of their soldiers in East Pakistan, Karachi, Baluchistan, and elsewhere in Pakistan. For a long time I believed that Pakistani Punjabis were not bigoted, racist (as if they had any reason to be!), and wanted genuine egalitarian environment for all Pakistanis. Coming on Chowk and learning the convictions of people like Chacha Char Sau Bees, Ali, Atif, Zeemax, Charlie, Shoebig, Ally, Sobia, and other notorious mahaPunjus, I have been utterly disappointed - at the expense of my nationalism and even faith in the legitimacy of Muslim unity.
#316 Posted by HP on May 28, 2007 1:40:38 pm
#309 by hamidm2
“in the end it will come down to the secular parties (ppp, mqm, anp) against the islamists (mma, pml(a-z) and al-qaeda)”
MQM secular? Sounds like you finally succumbed to the Zeemax’s pressure. There is nothing secular in MQM. Remember its core followers (the rednecks) are the former followers of Shah Ahemd Noornai “the Nabi ka Jhanda, pir sahib ki fateha and sooji ka halwa” fame, JUP mullah guy.
MQM is secular as long as it is fighting Alqaeda (JI) in Karachi for votes. The minute JI is uprooted from Karachi, MQM will go back to Sooji ka Halwa.
Has it occurred to you why altaf is called Pir sahib? For the simple reason that his followers have to have a pir sahib ka mazar for fatha purhanay kay liay, sooji ka halwa and whatever comes with that.
These guys are so uncouth that they prefer sooji ka halwa over gaajar ka Halwa.
Is-cumbags.
“in the end it will come down to the secular parties (ppp, mqm, anp) against the islamists (mma, pml(a-z) and al-qaeda)”
MQM secular? Sounds like you finally succumbed to the Zeemax’s pressure. There is nothing secular in MQM. Remember its core followers (the rednecks) are the former followers of Shah Ahemd Noornai “the Nabi ka Jhanda, pir sahib ki fateha and sooji ka halwa” fame, JUP mullah guy.
MQM is secular as long as it is fighting Alqaeda (JI) in Karachi for votes. The minute JI is uprooted from Karachi, MQM will go back to Sooji ka Halwa.
Has it occurred to you why altaf is called Pir sahib? For the simple reason that his followers have to have a pir sahib ka mazar for fatha purhanay kay liay, sooji ka halwa and whatever comes with that.
These guys are so uncouth that they prefer sooji ka halwa over gaajar ka Halwa.
Is-cumbags.
#315 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 1:33:16 pm
#307 Zeemax {`` and don`t even mention Liaqat Ali Khan. He was nothing but an opportunist ...It took a Pathan`s bullet to rid Pakistan of him at the behest of a Punjabi.``}
Zee Sahib,
While not a valid mea culpa, your statement is at least an admission of guilt. So now we know what (or who) killed Shaheed-e-Millat. And you call us traitors?
Zee Sahib,
While not a valid mea culpa, your statement is at least an admission of guilt. So now we know what (or who) killed Shaheed-e-Millat. And you call us traitors?
#314 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 1:30:51 pm
#309 Hamidum Sahib {``salim mian, ..... i am rooting for you ............. i hope you will be able to vanquish the racist and bigoted punjabi wahabi, maulana zeemax and chase him from the chowk once and for all so that we can get back to discussing fine dining and high art ............. maybe, if we are lucky, he will take sister zeena with him (i warned you about her !) .......... ..... remember, in the end it will come down to the secular parties (ppp, mqm, anp) against the islamists (mma, pml(a-z) and al-qaeda) ...... make sure you don`t shoot any friendlies ........
Hamidum Sahib,
Thank you for this relief - finally a post with some humor and a hope for salvation. Actually, there was never a need for an MQM. If the perpetual persecution of Mohajirs during the reigns of ZAB, Zina Owl Hack, Bezamir I, Besharif I, Bezamir II, Besharif II had been contained, Altag Bhai would probably be controlling the paan and niswar franchise in Karachi. Mohajirs never organized themselves under one party until the late 80s and that was forced upon them as a means of survival.
I agree with you that secularism is the future for Pakistan and the bigger enema is the mutilated version of Islam blowing in from Soodi Arabia.
Hamidum Sahib,
Thank you for this relief - finally a post with some humor and a hope for salvation. Actually, there was never a need for an MQM. If the perpetual persecution of Mohajirs during the reigns of ZAB, Zina Owl Hack, Bezamir I, Besharif I, Bezamir II, Besharif II had been contained, Altag Bhai would probably be controlling the paan and niswar franchise in Karachi. Mohajirs never organized themselves under one party until the late 80s and that was forced upon them as a means of survival.
I agree with you that secularism is the future for Pakistan and the bigger enema is the mutilated version of Islam blowing in from Soodi Arabia.
#313 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 1:25:29 pm
Zeemax #310 {``No doubt they will, but for you. Karachi is not a mutarwa city. You will know that on 3rd June if the Pushtoons go ahead with their strike to shut down that city.``}
Zee Sahib,
Benyamin Bhai showed admirable maturity in asking for a ceasefire. Unfortunately, you continue to display extreme racism, bigotry, and provincialism. Your duplicity in promoting Paki Punju hegemony and simultaneously supporting right-wing fundo Jihadi Wahabi mutilation of ``Islam,`` is driving me to question the state of both our minds - yours for this moronic dichotomy and mine for continuing to engage your utter nonsense.
If your Pushtoons (probably the PPI type) go ahead with their strike to shut down Karachi, then maybe we Mohajirs should consider driving our own cars, guarding our own homes, shops, and banks, and making niswar illegal and punishable with a one-way ticket to Homoland. :) While we are at it, we should start cleaning our own bathrooms and rob you Paki Punjus of employment in Karachi. :)
Zee Sahib,
Benyamin Bhai showed admirable maturity in asking for a ceasefire. Unfortunately, you continue to display extreme racism, bigotry, and provincialism. Your duplicity in promoting Paki Punju hegemony and simultaneously supporting right-wing fundo Jihadi Wahabi mutilation of ``Islam,`` is driving me to question the state of both our minds - yours for this moronic dichotomy and mine for continuing to engage your utter nonsense.
If your Pushtoons (probably the PPI type) go ahead with their strike to shut down Karachi, then maybe we Mohajirs should consider driving our own cars, guarding our own homes, shops, and banks, and making niswar illegal and punishable with a one-way ticket to Homoland. :) While we are at it, we should start cleaning our own bathrooms and rob you Paki Punjus of employment in Karachi. :)
#311 Posted by zeemax on May 28, 2007 1:07:56 pm
#309 by hamidm2,
You can forget about secularism at-least in Pakistan if you haven`t done so already. :)
You can forget about secularism at-least in Pakistan if you haven`t done so already. :)
#312 Posted by hamidm2 on May 28, 2007 1:23:30 pm
Re: # 311
zeemax,
....... i will settle for the islam of bari imam, mqm and the fair ladies of heera mandi (who, as you probably know, are mostly devout shias) ......... but i am surprised at your hatred for the mohajirs - i guess you have enough bile to spread around .............
zeemax,
....... i will settle for the islam of bari imam, mqm and the fair ladies of heera mandi (who, as you probably know, are mostly devout shias) ......... but i am surprised at your hatred for the mohajirs - i guess you have enough bile to spread around .............
#310 Posted by zeemax on May 28, 2007 1:04:48 pm
#308 by binyamin,
I don`t lay claim to Jinnah. He belonged to Pakistan, not any single community. The argument I was making was that was there any mutarwa who contributed to Pakistan? That is the question.
I don`t believe the claim of any Jinnah`s grandsons. Many people of Kharadar claim that. Even neighbors, so forget it.
Otherwise the political consequences for Pakistan will be disastrous.
No doubt they will, but for you. Karachi is not a mutarwa city. You will know that on 3rd June if the Pushtoons go ahead with their strike to shut down that city.
I don`t lay claim to Jinnah. He belonged to Pakistan, not any single community. The argument I was making was that was there any mutarwa who contributed to Pakistan? That is the question.
I don`t believe the claim of any Jinnah`s grandsons. Many people of Kharadar claim that. Even neighbors, so forget it.
Otherwise the political consequences for Pakistan will be disastrous.
No doubt they will, but for you. Karachi is not a mutarwa city. You will know that on 3rd June if the Pushtoons go ahead with their strike to shut down that city.
#309 Posted by hamidm2 on May 28, 2007 1:03:58 pm
salim mian,
..... i am rooting for you ............. i hope you will be able to vanquish the racist and bigoted punjabi wahabi, maulana zeemax and chase him from the chowk once and for all so that we can get back to discussing fine dining and high art ............. maybe, if we are lucky, he will take sister zeena with him (i warned you about her !) ..........
..... remember, in the end it will come down to the secular parties (ppp, mqm, anp) against the islamists (mma, pml(a-z) and al-qaeda) ...... make sure you don`t shoot any friendlies ........
#308 Posted by Binyamin on May 28, 2007 12:54:51 pm
#305 by zeemax on May 28, 2007 12:45pm PT
#304 by rf786,
>>>How do you mutarwas lay claim to Jinnah?
Looks like you have a claim on Mr Jinnah . Did you know that two of Mr Jinnah`s grandsons were shot dead in a fake police encounter in Kharadar in 1994 on the orders of your hero Mr naseerulla babur? Just because they were middle-class Karachiites with no political connections?
Is there another nation on this earth which is so ungrateful to its founder and his family?
I have told you before that it is time to declare a ceasefire put an end to this mud-slinging which you appear to enjoy ( and to stop fantasising that General Niazi`s modern day version will conquer Karachi once again) .
Otherwise the political consequences for Pakistan will be disastrous .
#307 Posted by zeemax on May 28, 2007 12:53:16 pm
... and don`t even mention Liaqat Ali Khan. He was nothing but an opportunist about whom Jinnah had passed the remark about fake coins in his pocket, and who had said about Jinnah on his deathbed that `Budha abhi mara nahin`.
It took a Pathan`s bullet to rid Pakistan of him at the behest of a Punjabi.
It took a Pathan`s bullet to rid Pakistan of him at the behest of a Punjabi.
#306 Posted by Folio on May 28, 2007 12:45:56 pm
#301 by Salim_Chauhan on May 28, 2007 12:26pm PT
Sleembhai,
This boond-i-kaana is now a confirmed Salafist. He doesnt believe in native (Indian/South Asian) Islam.
Alternatively he shifts btw drinking Salafism and sniffing the creations of Dr. Matlock.
He`s a curious. He`s different.
Sleembhai,
This boond-i-kaana is now a confirmed Salafist. He doesnt believe in native (Indian/South Asian) Islam.
Alternatively he shifts btw drinking Salafism and sniffing the creations of Dr. Matlock.
He`s a curious. He`s different.
#305 Posted by zeemax on May 28, 2007 12:45:05 pm
#304 by rf786,
Jinnah was no Upiite low-class. He was a Bombay Ismaili Khoja but a great Muslim. He didn`t even know Urdu. How do you mutarwas lay claim to Jinnah?
Jinnah was no Upiite low-class. He was a Bombay Ismaili Khoja but a great Muslim. He didn`t even know Urdu. How do you mutarwas lay claim to Jinnah?
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