Nadeem F Paracha May 31, 2007
#56 Posted by zeemax on June 3, 2007 1:05:41 am
#49 by HP,
An extract from a UP post of mine on why no Sindhi hindus are involved in blasphemy cases while many Christians in Punjab are:
Sindhis are all sufis and they don`t mind blasphemy ... so ... That`s why your altafi bhayyas have run all over them and captured their lands. It is their moth-eaten mindset through sufiism.
An extract from a UP post of mine on why no Sindhi hindus are involved in blasphemy cases while many Christians in Punjab are:
Sindhis are all sufis and they don`t mind blasphemy ... so ... That`s why your altafi bhayyas have run all over them and captured their lands. It is their moth-eaten mindset through sufiism.
#55 Posted by HP on June 3, 2007 12:58:57 am
#54 by rf786
``Sufi traits can be found all the way from Africa to Indonesia,``
Yeah, you can find charsi, mawali, malaangi and gypsies everywhere. Calling these mawalis, saints is pure non sense and goes back to the traditions when crazies were called god`s gift to human being.
They were nothing more than nutcases. Yeah some of them wrote some poetry but most lived on Khairat and Zakat. Bhikary behnchood.
Show me one sufi and I will show you that he was a nutcase or a bhangi, mawali.
``Sufi traits can be found all the way from Africa to Indonesia,``
Yeah, you can find charsi, mawali, malaangi and gypsies everywhere. Calling these mawalis, saints is pure non sense and goes back to the traditions when crazies were called god`s gift to human being.
They were nothing more than nutcases. Yeah some of them wrote some poetry but most lived on Khairat and Zakat. Bhikary behnchood.
Show me one sufi and I will show you that he was a nutcase or a bhangi, mawali.
#54 Posted by rf786 on June 3, 2007 12:45:54 am
Re: # 49
{Basically, all fuking sufis were malaang or charasi or Bhangi and here we have people extolling their virtues as some kind medal of honor. All sufi and Malaangi were bhikmangay or beggars and since they did crazy things after getting high on charas, bhang and Ganja- in typical Indian traditions, their acts during the malaangi state were considered out of this world. Sufi were like Sadhu. They used to wear funny cloths and some used to play music too.
We Sindhi are a sufi nation. We even have abida parveen. It is said that ``she is the best sufi kafi singer in the world today`` Like there are 100s of other countries that follow sufi-ism. After Iran, Sindhis are the last bunch of Sufi in the world...What crap. And here is Abida Parveen for you. }
You have some serious issues to deal with, Sufi`s u refer to are not sufis but charlatans in the guise of sufi traditions, BUT to use them as an excuse to debunk sufism and all the good work done by the great saints shows your ignorance and shallow rascist bigotry.
Sufi traits can be found all the way from Africa to Indonesia, actually it was the Sufi saints who travelled to Indonesia and bought Islam. Even today, Morroco, Sudan, Egypt Algteria, Indonesia, Turkey, India, Pakistan have thriving sufi traditions.
Try coming out of your shell and read a little bit more about the world that can only help.
{Basically, all fuking sufis were malaang or charasi or Bhangi and here we have people extolling their virtues as some kind medal of honor. All sufi and Malaangi were bhikmangay or beggars and since they did crazy things after getting high on charas, bhang and Ganja- in typical Indian traditions, their acts during the malaangi state were considered out of this world. Sufi were like Sadhu. They used to wear funny cloths and some used to play music too.
We Sindhi are a sufi nation. We even have abida parveen. It is said that ``she is the best sufi kafi singer in the world today`` Like there are 100s of other countries that follow sufi-ism. After Iran, Sindhis are the last bunch of Sufi in the world...What crap. And here is Abida Parveen for you. }
You have some serious issues to deal with, Sufi`s u refer to are not sufis but charlatans in the guise of sufi traditions, BUT to use them as an excuse to debunk sufism and all the good work done by the great saints shows your ignorance and shallow rascist bigotry.
Sufi traits can be found all the way from Africa to Indonesia, actually it was the Sufi saints who travelled to Indonesia and bought Islam. Even today, Morroco, Sudan, Egypt Algteria, Indonesia, Turkey, India, Pakistan have thriving sufi traditions.
Try coming out of your shell and read a little bit more about the world that can only help.
#53 Posted by HP on June 3, 2007 12:32:50 am
#51 by rf786
Mera bachay, meri aankhain,
I have no interest in debating MQM. I am 100% right about MQM. I know the chuha in London very well.....
#52 Posted by HP on June 3, 2007 12:30:00 am
#50
Sorry! the picture is from bela, Baluchistan and not Bela, Sindh.
#51 Posted by rf786 on June 3, 2007 12:28:19 am
Re: # 47
{Yeah sure. But none of them have used arms so blatantly as the MQM did. So MQM should be disarmed first. All other groups in Karachi don`t have the majority or the Armed worker base as large as MQM.}
Can u please come out of your Mqm phobia, what u propose will not happen nor sud it when OTHER groups have always been armed and will continue to do so at the expense of the local population.
If u wish to keepon repeating the same mantra again and again to satisfy your deep seated resentment towards Mqm, then there is no debate nor is there any qualitative advantage, just another gibberish.
{Yeah sure. But none of them have used arms so blatantly as the MQM did. So MQM should be disarmed first. All other groups in Karachi don`t have the majority or the Armed worker base as large as MQM.}
Can u please come out of your Mqm phobia, what u propose will not happen nor sud it when OTHER groups have always been armed and will continue to do so at the expense of the local population.
If u wish to keepon repeating the same mantra again and again to satisfy your deep seated resentment towards Mqm, then there is no debate nor is there any qualitative advantage, just another gibberish.
#50 Posted by HP on June 3, 2007 12:20:22 am
...And here is where all Sufi should have been buried
Impact crater near bela, Sindh.

the center of the crater is at about : 26 05 N, 65 58 E
it is about 37km long and 17 km wide and 900m deep
image from google earth.
Impact crater near bela, Sindh.

the center of the crater is at about : 26 05 N, 65 58 E
it is about 37km long and 17 km wide and 900m deep
image from google earth.
#49 Posted by HP on June 3, 2007 12:09:30 am
``What I wanted to ask you, though, is what does malaangi mean?``
Malaangi is Nadeem`s middle name. Too much bhang, charas and ganja on Abdullah Shah Ghazi`s mazar earned him this middle name....
Basically, all fuking sufis were malaang or charasi or Bhangi and here we have people extolling their virtues as some kind medal of honor. All sufi and Malaangi were bhikmangay or beggars and since they did crazy things after getting high on charas, bhang and Ganja- in typical Indian traditions, their acts during the malaangi state were considered out of this world. Sufi were like Sadhu. They used to wear funny cloths and some used to play music too.
We Sindhi are a sufi nation. We even have abida parveen. It is said that ``she is the best sufi kafi singer in the world today`` Like there are 100s of other countries that follow sufi-ism. After Iran, Sindhis are the last bunch of Sufi in the world...What crap. And here is Abida Parveen for you.
She is often seen in India.

or this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/altamash/490459634/in/photostream/
She is a good singer but looks like crazy like all bigwig sufi....
Malaangi is Nadeem`s middle name. Too much bhang, charas and ganja on Abdullah Shah Ghazi`s mazar earned him this middle name....
Basically, all fuking sufis were malaang or charasi or Bhangi and here we have people extolling their virtues as some kind medal of honor. All sufi and Malaangi were bhikmangay or beggars and since they did crazy things after getting high on charas, bhang and Ganja- in typical Indian traditions, their acts during the malaangi state were considered out of this world. Sufi were like Sadhu. They used to wear funny cloths and some used to play music too.
We Sindhi are a sufi nation. We even have abida parveen. It is said that ``she is the best sufi kafi singer in the world today`` Like there are 100s of other countries that follow sufi-ism. After Iran, Sindhis are the last bunch of Sufi in the world...What crap. And here is Abida Parveen for you.
She is often seen in India.

or this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/altamash/490459634/in/photostream/
She is a good singer but looks like crazy like all bigwig sufi....
#48 Posted by zeemax on June 2, 2007 11:52:21 pm
#44 by hassauriwala,
Mr. hathoriwaley, I`m not encouraging slaughter, I am encouraging armed confrontation. And may the better party win in this game. Do you see the difference?
After getting a few Jihadi RPGs up their behinds, altaf bhayyas will say ``Saaley ... ab key aa`` :)
Mr. hathoriwaley, I`m not encouraging slaughter, I am encouraging armed confrontation. And may the better party win in this game. Do you see the difference?
After getting a few Jihadi RPGs up their behinds, altaf bhayyas will say ``Saaley ... ab key aa`` :)
#47 Posted by HP on June 2, 2007 11:50:57 pm
#38 by rf786
``Take away arms from MQM, ANP, PPI, JI, JUI, PPP, SUNNI, SHIA, TOM, DICK & HARRY. ``
Yeah sure. But none of them have used arms so blatantly as the MQM did. So MQM should be disarmed first. All other groups in Karachi don`t have the majority or the Armed worker base as large as MQM.
Apropos post #37, I would like to make one change here. I think Nabi ka Jhanda party or Shah Ahmed Noorani mian Meerut wala`s party is a much better choice over the khandani goonda party MQM or the chooriwala from Agra`s party.
``Take away arms from MQM, ANP, PPI, JI, JUI, PPP, SUNNI, SHIA, TOM, DICK & HARRY. ``
Yeah sure. But none of them have used arms so blatantly as the MQM did. So MQM should be disarmed first. All other groups in Karachi don`t have the majority or the Armed worker base as large as MQM.
Apropos post #37, I would like to make one change here. I think Nabi ka Jhanda party or Shah Ahmed Noorani mian Meerut wala`s party is a much better choice over the khandani goonda party MQM or the chooriwala from Agra`s party.
#45 Posted by ahmedmadani on June 2, 2007 9:15:17 pm
Due partisan writing by writers they are trying to barinwash against MQM.
There were little here and there some problems in PR but MQM as usual will master all problems and will be dominant player as usual. It was good by Sindh/ punjab to stop entering Karachi, big Khan and making troubles. Let us hope English judge thrashes Imaran Khan for bringing trivial law suits against MQM Chief and is fined.
There were little here and there some problems in PR but MQM as usual will master all problems and will be dominant player as usual. It was good by Sindh/ punjab to stop entering Karachi, big Khan and making troubles. Let us hope English judge thrashes Imaran Khan for bringing trivial law suits against MQM Chief and is fined.
#44 Posted by hassauriwala on June 2, 2007 7:55:40 pm
>>>State can`t disarm anyone. Best option would be to use non-state actors like the Binoria Jihadis to confront them with better firepower like RPGs etc. Even with small weapons on 12/5, they despatched about a dozen altaf bhayyas from Gurumander to the FB Area qabristan.
Further, to do the real nasty work, haqeeqees should be let loose on them once again with drills and sacks, to be rewarded by a few seats on the Sindh Assembly and perhaps some municipal body like the water & sewerage board.
Is this person human? Apart from admitting the murder of 12 MQM workers on 12 May (hear, O feudal animal-haters of MQM), he is encouraging slaughter against an elected party in Karachi. His ip address should be banned from Chowk.com in my opinion.
Further, to do the real nasty work, haqeeqees should be let loose on them once again with drills and sacks, to be rewarded by a few seats on the Sindh Assembly and perhaps some municipal body like the water & sewerage board.
Is this person human? Apart from admitting the murder of 12 MQM workers on 12 May (hear, O feudal animal-haters of MQM), he is encouraging slaughter against an elected party in Karachi. His ip address should be banned from Chowk.com in my opinion.
#43 Posted by KaalChakra on June 2, 2007 1:23:05 pm
ABAM
To be fair, all strong groups dish out large amounts of rewards and punishments.
To be fair, all strong groups dish out large amounts of rewards and punishments.
#42 Posted by ABAM on June 2, 2007 4:19:11 am
The only reason i see MQM having a large following is because of their threats to people and the fact that membership of the MQM makes life so much easier in Karachi. Last summer, one of my friends had their car taken away because it was parked in a non-parking zone. All he did was call his cousin, who was a member of the MQM, he got his car without any problems the next day. Is this your loyal cult following of mohajjirs for the MQM ?
#41 Posted by nb on June 2, 2007 3:30:21 am
NFP, this is a sad article. What I wanted to ask you, though, is what does malaangi mean?
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