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Eyewitness: Karachi, May 12, 2007

Beena Sarwar May 30, 2007

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#63 Posted by khamy1 on June 2, 2007 11:04:41 am
...while all the mqm slaves are busy painting beena sarwar a punjabi for writing things they don`t like...what would they call her if it turns out that beena sarwar is a mohajir like them...;)
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#62 Posted by zeemax on June 2, 2007 10:51:01 am
Abey Salim,

her childish one-sided ``eyewitness`` account.

How can an eye-witness account (actually several) be one-sided? Of-course unless your one eye does not match the other eye as your creator Zina-ul-Haq ... !!!
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#61 Posted by hassauriwala on June 2, 2007 10:08:33 am
>>`` Karachities should think carefully .... have held the entire karachi population hostage ``

MQM is holding nobody hostage . Everyone is free to not vote for MQM. But if the feudals still cannot get any votes despite occupying Karachi from 1992-9 and looting Karachi`s tax-money to kill MQM boys, to rape Karachi`s girls and to spread Benazir`s and Nawaz`s message of feudal ``love`` for Karachi then it is not MQM `s fault if it keeps winning elections.


>>`` Many did this like Gandhi, Quaideazam, Mandela, etc, why cannot he show the guts.``

Array array aap to pyjamas se bahir ho gaye ! What about your own feudal leaders Benazir and Nawaz . How do you manage to forget them before jumping on to Mandela ? Whose money do you think Benazir and Nawaz are living on?


>>``Why he is not coming back when his party is in power ``


Altaf left for London when MQM was in power in 1991 too . MQM always wins elections from Karachi and signs agreements on power-sharing each time .
Within a few days , however, the feudal Jurassic corrupt establishment starts blaming MQM and starts an ``operation`` against the hapless middle-class Karachiites forcing MQM into the opposition in breach of the agreement.
This happened in 1989, 1992 and 1997. Is MQM the only evil in Pakistan and Benazir, Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif

If you still want to blame an elected party like MQM for being forced into the opposition like Sheikh Mujeeb was by the Punjabi feudal establishment in 1971 you are one sick person , but then again you are a feudal.


Do not forget that MQM has been elected always from urban Sindh since 1988 and no amount of feudal propaganda could change that even during the ``operation`` from 1992-9 .

Your feudal leaders (Benazir, Nawaz) left as soon as they lost power went into opposition. That is the characteristic of the weakness of character and corruption of your feudal leaders which is not in Altaf Hussain.

Staying in ``power`` is a feudal obsession not that of middle-class MQM. When feudals are in power they murder, loot, rape anyone who is within their reach. When they lose power they take the tax-payers` money and run abroad. There has been a lot of talk of MQM protection -money . What about Nawaz Sharif and Benazir`s money ? Where do you think that comes from? Why do you not give any evidence of the ``so-called`` protection rackets in Karachi?
There is not even a case of corruption against MQM which is so endemic in feudal Pakistan.

I can give you evidence however of the sub-human conditions in Pakistan`s feudal fiefdoms.

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#60 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 2, 2007 9:37:17 am
Once again, MQM announces a change in name.

In a bid to become more Punju-friendly, Altaph Bhai announced another change to MQMs name. He decreed that MQM (Muttahida Qaumi Movement) will now be called MKM (Muttahida Komi Movement).

Not to be outdone, Mushy announced the PML (Q for Qaaf) will also change its name to PML (K for Kaaf).

Nobody knows how long this spirit of ``feel good come to Jesus kumbaya`` will last in Pakistan. Nawas Sharif of PML (N for Noon) announced that he had no plans to change to the name of his party. He denied the rumor being spread by the vicious MQM, that the ``NOON`` in PML (N for NOON) stood for 12 o`clock as an insult to Sardarjis. Mr. Sharif reiterated that the N for Noon in PML (N) stood for Nawaz
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#59 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 2, 2007 9:24:22 am
#54 hassauriwala {``As I see it , Chowk.com has become a vehicle of spreading hatred against Karachi`s elected party the MQM by ``journalists`` like Ms Sarwar who are ``based primarily in Lahore and Karachi`` ( look at her stupid profile). ``}


Hassaruiwala Bhai,
Good observation. Whether it`s MQM or the issue of ``stranded`` Pakis in BD, or constant whining about ``bering forced`` to speak Urdu, or their new-found ``love`` for democracy and the judiciary, the long line of Paindoos on Chowk miss no opportunity to show their ethnic, racial, or linguistic bias and hatred. While you may have optimism for Pakistan`s future, I would rather concentrate on JUST the safety, welfare, and future of OUR people - GA Mohajir. :) I cannot be loyal to a country, whose majority population does NOT want it`s own citizens (just because they are Urdu-speaking) repatriated from a hostile location after suffering a shameful and cowardly defeat.
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#58 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 2, 2007 9:24:07 am
#157 Zeemax {``Musharraf is no Ayub Khan.``}

Zee,
You got that right. Musharraf cannot be blamed for:

Promoting himself to Field Marshall
Preying on poor Muslim refugee girls at the border and reserving the most beautiful ones for himself
Carrying on a liason with an English prostitute (Christine Keeler) and sharing all kinds of state secrets
Obtaining a car dealership for his son as Ayub did for Gauhar
Having killed many innocent people in Karachi and then dumping their bodies in the sea
Being a total chicken when India retaliated by crossing the international border in 1965 - read Bhutto`s account of the behavior of this ``soldier.``
Spending considerable amounts of state funds to construct a gold course for himself while many Pakistanis lacked basic needs for survival
Sacking the most popular man in East Pakistan out of personal jealousy and fear (I think the man was Gen. Azam Khan) and thus paving the way for Bangladesh
Giving away a huge chunk of Kashmir (Shaksgam) to China as a gift
Promoting a young aristocratic Bhutto only because he was impressed by his vast land holding and a place to hunt
Letting the country`s defenses go to the dogs after 1965 war - leading to the most shameful defeat of Pakistan in 1971
Mocking democracy with the concept of ``basic democrats.``
Setting and justifying the course for future military dictatorships by not restoring democracy in `58

Of course, when there was a Bengali majority in Pakistan, our Punjaibi friends on Chowk did not have any passion for democracy or ``one man one vote.`` Funny how these hypocrites have discovered democracy after the departure of the majority of Pakistanis. Shame.



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#57 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 2, 2007 9:17:18 am
#56 sam67 {``Dont you have anyone who can lead MQM from within you?``}

Sam,
So now you want to practice real democracy by dictating to us Urdu-speaking Mohajirs about who can or cannot be our leader?

If you were an Urdu-speaking Mohajir, I could understand your passion, but obviously your pom pom waving cheerleading dance for Beena`s ``great service`` reflects your own myopia and paindoo outlook.

Have you ever thought about autocratic leaders of parties such as PPP, ML (N), or even the ML of Mr. Jinnah? I just hope Manto doesn`t read this and take us all down memory lane for the thousandth time. :)
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#56 Posted by sam67 on June 2, 2007 7:05:19 am
I think Beena has done a great service by giving the first hand account of what actually happened on 5/12. Karachities should think carefully before defending such an act. It is not against Karachities, its not against MQM either but it is against the thugs of MQM who are ruling this party while sitting abroad. They have held the entire karachi population hostage to their guns and are minting money in the name of monthlies from almost all and sundry in Karachi. Yes everyone is against feudals, waderas but for Godsake dont create another wadera in the name of MQM chief. Why he is not coming back when his party is in power and when his mentor is ruling the country. what stops him. if he is so sincere to Pakistan why should not he give up his british citizenship and come and join the struggle for people. Many did this like Gandhi, Quaideazam, Mandela, etc, why cannot he show the guts. Does he fear those whose sons and near and dear ones were killed on his orders or does he fear judiciary? so for Godsake dont perpatuate feudalism by supporting a foreign-based leader. Dont you have anyone who can lead MQM from within you? yes u have many of them the only thing will be to show guts and defy your party lord and make MQM real representative of people not of thugs and looters and monthly grabbers.
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#55 Posted by bjkumar on June 2, 2007 4:05:59 am

Salim mian,

What happened on May 12, 2007 was a man-made tragedy. It should be recognized as such.

Beating up on the author - who only happens to be a bearer of the bad news - does not change the reality.

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#54 Posted by hassauriwala on June 2, 2007 12:06:17 am
Thanks Saleem,

What Beena Sarwar has written is not an eyewitness account. It is an outpouring of feudal venom and hatred against Karachi and Karachiites as can be seen in the various posts in praise of Beena which are like the retarded Nawaz Sharif propaganda about torture cells in 1992 or 1994 when in Benazir Bhutto`s time visibly tortured MQM workers were made to ``confess`` on PTV and promise never to be associated with MQM again.

Karachiites , or myself or anyone is made sick by third-rate lies and Jurassic tribal savages claiming that MQM is more evil than the feudal establishment .

MQM as a party of literate middle-class tax-payers, is an anti-thesis of the primitive feudal Jurassic corrupt establishment that has controlled Pakistan since 1951 ( and gorged on taxes from Karachi).

But that does not necessarily make the MQM evil. In so many years of feudal propaganda against MQM not a single case of corruption has been mentioned whereas in other parties politicians live and die with money earned by corruption.


The MQM is violent but that is only a reflection of a society where Army, rangers, police, Benazir and Nawaz ( and now Imran Khan) think they can subjugate middle-class urbane tax-paying citizens by violence. So why blame MQM?


As I see it , Chowk.com has become a vehicle of spreading hatred against Karachi`s elected party the MQM by ``journalists`` like Ms Sarwar who are ``based primarily in Lahore and Karachi`` ( look at her stupid profile).

I hold no brief against Punjabis . In fact I have the greatest of respect for the people of Lahore who even defied Ayub Khan to vote for Ms Fatima Jinnah.

I will again say that what Pervez Musharraf did to Justice Choudhry was wrong and what happened on 12 May 07 was sad.

I also think these ethnic differences are simply pointless.

But as I have said before, there is a way of discussing and analysing it without being ``absolutist`` that the MQM is the most evil thing in existence and these feudal detractors of MQM ( who have actually become extinct in the rest of the world such as India) who murder, rape, loot, plunder , lose and lie with their primitive tribal mentality about MQM are the best people in the world.

I hope what I have said is fair and clear ( it is a bit high-level for the crowd on chowk.com but there are very few sites to post ...don`t you think?)

Long Live Pakistan.


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#53 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 1, 2007 3:26:18 pm
#50 hassauriwala {``Take Beena Sarwar for example. I do not think she is very clever and her third-rate third-party propaganda is certainly not an eyewitness account. ...Since May 12, the feudal ``iqtidar-mafia`` has been in the process of (re-)discovering MQM as a ``terrorist`` organisation given that the feudal Nawabzadas, Sahibzadas, Khanzadas, Haramzadas , Makhdooms , Maliks, Bhuttos, Bugtis and Pirs who have ruled Pakistan since Liaquat Ali Khan`s martyrdom in 1951 have tried and failed to harm MQM from 1992-99. ``}

Hassauriwala Bhai,
I was the first to read and offer feedback to Beena about her article. Please see my post #1 where I have expressed my disappointment at her childish one-sided ``eyewitness`` account. I even provided some pictures of those who were actively engaged in the fighting with all kinds of weapons. Apparently, the author does not find anything hateful or ethnically divisive about PPI - Punjabi Pukhtoon Inc. :) That is exactly why I have no more faith left in the majority of Pakistanis - their ``heads I win, tails you lose`` logic makes it very difficult to compromise with them. All the violence in Baluchistan and NWFP in which hundres (if not thousands) of Pakistanis have been slaughtered goes unnoticed, while a politically-driven ``peaceful`` rally incorporating all kinds of weapons and resulting in the deaths of dozens is paramount news. Where were all these Monday morning crocodiles when Karachiites were dying by the thousands in the late 80s and early 90s?

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#52 Posted by bjkumar on June 1, 2007 3:17:49 pm

Beena, just a simple note to emphasize (if any emphasis is at all necessary) that over the last two years on this site - my admiration for Pakistani journalists and writers - as I develop a better appreciation for the conditions under which they operate - keeps going up...

...thanks to articles like this!

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#51 Posted by HisExcellency on June 1, 2007 1:33:28 pm
Beena,

The sentiments expressed in your article resonate with the views of all Pakistanis who believe in tolerance, political pluralism and democracy. Your article can only aggravate those sociopaths who believe in Mohajir particularism and are bereft of humanity or respect for democracy.

MQM`s already small constituency got smaller with this brazen display of fascism. This party is unworthy of power and I pray that no mainstream party ever form a coalition with MQM again, until the London-based perpetrators of 5/12 are brought to justice.
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#50 Posted by hassauriwala on June 1, 2007 12:54:44 pm
Hi Saleem,

Thanks brother. What happened on the12th of May was sad. But instead of mud-slinging on Karachiites and their elected party may be everyone should look for consensus and compromise.

Take Beena Sarwar for example. I do not think she is very clever and her third-rate thord-party propaganda is certainly not an eyewitness account. It is a bit difficult for a heavy-set lady like Beena Sarwar to have moved all over Karachi on 12 May 07 ( especially when there are tankers and containers in the way, don`t you think?)

Since May 12, the feudal ``iqtidar-mafia`` has been in the process of (re-)discovering MQM as a ``terrorist`` organisation given that the feudal Nawabzadas, Sahibzadas, Khanzadas, Haramzadas , Makhdooms , Maliks, Bhuttos, Bugtis and Pirs who have ruled Pakistan since Liaquat Ali Khan`s martyrdom in 1951 have tried and failed to harm MQM from 1992-99.

These idiots do not realise that all the weapons that they can use against MQM from Jinnahpur to torture-cells to refusing to join in the ``tawaiful mulooki`` of feudal politics of Nawaz Sharif and Benazir have now run out.

Whilst MQM may not be without blame , it is the elected party of urban Sindh and third-rate loosely drafted ``factoid`` articles such as this one will ony serve to further the hatred and misunderstanding between Karachi and wherever else these feudals dream up their ideas.

I have said this before. What happened with the Chief Justice was wrong and I will accept valid criticism of MQM and Pervez Musharraf .

But pretending that MQM are more evil than Benazir or Nawaz and their feudal minions is harmful for national unity.
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#49 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 1, 2007 7:45:05 am
#34 by Folio on May 31, 2007 10:12am PT
Sleembhai,

Are u on pepper diet now-a-days?``}

Folio,
NO - I am on an anti-BS jihad. :)
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#48 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 1, 2007 7:43:43 am
#41 hassaruiwalla {``As a Pakistani , I do not blindly endorse any or all of Pervez Musharraf`s actions ..But by talking 1992-style feudal rubbish against MQM... you are only alienating us Karachiites from the national mainstream.

You feudals will still not get my votes in the next election the more lies you spread about MQM. ``}

Hassauriwalla,
Very good points and extremely well articulated. These people must think that we are very stupid. They want to oppress, denigrate, and reduce Urdu-speaking Mohajirs, then they expect us to remain silent AND join them in cutting off our legs - all for the sake of the ``unity`` of Pakistan as perceived by them. LOL.
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