Pervez Hoodbhoy May 31, 2007
#393 Posted by masadi on November 5, 2007 6:36:51 am
idiots always come up with ad hominem because they are scared of facts
#392 Posted by nehal on July 5, 2007 10:26:04 pm
Folks, mushy is the least of your problems, you have in front of you a 14th centruy old monster trying to engulf the whole region with darkness, Now is the time to close all madaris across the country, and force these so called imams to earn daily bread for themselves, who needs these illiterates anyway reciting gabla gook without any understanding of it, allow only M.A. in islamic studies from universities to be able to work as Imam of a masjid [filter/ijtihad all the jihad from the courses] , the nation has to stop funding these potbellys.
encourage some freedom in fatith
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php
encourage some freedom in fatith
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php
#391 Posted by Folio on June 10, 2007 4:35:13 pm
assADI,
>>Once again you prove yourself to be a damn fool who has no knowledge of US society, or the stratification based on race, sex and gender that exists there. You have no clue of segregation of African Americans in US society, or the disparity of incomes and wealth commanded by the top compared to the bottom...<<
Stratification based on race, sex and gender?????????????????
Do u mean to say that countries other than the US had unisex population, assADI??
As for race, it`s in the minds of people like u who does not even share a seat on subway with blacks.
Ur dumbass shud know that the US has the BEST social policies in the world (san the Nordic countries). If somebody like Stanley O`Neil (a black) became the CEO of Merril Lynch, it`s becoz Stan is a citizen of the USA & there`s no discrimination based on sex, race.
U say that the US treats ppl accoring to their race??
As for racial segregation, the Govt of the US had no policy 4 the establishment of catchment areas. If a social group lives in an area it`s bcoz they`d like to live together
(eg. China town, New Jersey etc.,).
If the income disparities are there, it`s bcoz of the general apathy of the black masses BUT whoever made efforts has reached there. U see how Indians and Chinese are at the top of the income ranges among immigrants?
I hope this is my last post to ur DUMB-assaDI.
>>Once again you prove yourself to be a damn fool who has no knowledge of US society, or the stratification based on race, sex and gender that exists there. You have no clue of segregation of African Americans in US society, or the disparity of incomes and wealth commanded by the top compared to the bottom...<<
Stratification based on race, sex and gender?????????????????
Do u mean to say that countries other than the US had unisex population, assADI??
As for race, it`s in the minds of people like u who does not even share a seat on subway with blacks.
Ur dumbass shud know that the US has the BEST social policies in the world (san the Nordic countries). If somebody like Stanley O`Neil (a black) became the CEO of Merril Lynch, it`s becoz Stan is a citizen of the USA & there`s no discrimination based on sex, race.
U say that the US treats ppl accoring to their race??
As for racial segregation, the Govt of the US had no policy 4 the establishment of catchment areas. If a social group lives in an area it`s bcoz they`d like to live together
(eg. China town, New Jersey etc.,).
If the income disparities are there, it`s bcoz of the general apathy of the black masses BUT whoever made efforts has reached there. U see how Indians and Chinese are at the top of the income ranges among immigrants?
I hope this is my last post to ur DUMB-assaDI.
#390 Posted by masadi on June 10, 2007 10:28:38 am
Folio writes <<< Social Structure as we understand in our part of the world is different from the one u see in the US. There`s nothing like the structure there. There`s no high-low thing among her people. There`s no 2/3/4-kinds of ppl.
All are equal in all spheres of life. >>>
Once again you prove yourself to be a damn fool who has no knowledge of US society, or the stratification based on race, sex and gender that exists there. You have no clue of segregation of African Americans in US society, or the disparity of incomes and wealth commanded by the top compared to the bottom... I don`t like wasting time with fools spewing Fox News propaganda... write something half way intelligent or you`ll receive no response...
All are equal in all spheres of life. >>>
Once again you prove yourself to be a damn fool who has no knowledge of US society, or the stratification based on race, sex and gender that exists there. You have no clue of segregation of African Americans in US society, or the disparity of incomes and wealth commanded by the top compared to the bottom... I don`t like wasting time with fools spewing Fox News propaganda... write something half way intelligent or you`ll receive no response...
#388 Posted by Folio on June 9, 2007 2:30:07 pm
U messed it up assADI,
Social Structure as we understand in our part of the world is different from the one u see in the US. There`s nothing like the structure there. There`s no high-low thing among her people. There`s no 2/3/4-kinds of ppl.
All are equal in all spheres of life.
The ONLY ethereal structure, if u wish to call it, is an informal & economic order which by itself is NOT a structure for the very reason it`s highly unstable; therefore I am not born into a structure for the rest of my life, nor wud u b.
As 4 military, we all had it, not jut the US.
Better u cut down on ur `impressive` phrase and take care of the `points`.
Social Structure as we understand in our part of the world is different from the one u see in the US. There`s nothing like the structure there. There`s no high-low thing among her people. There`s no 2/3/4-kinds of ppl.
All are equal in all spheres of life.
The ONLY ethereal structure, if u wish to call it, is an informal & economic order which by itself is NOT a structure for the very reason it`s highly unstable; therefore I am not born into a structure for the rest of my life, nor wud u b.
As 4 military, we all had it, not jut the US.
Better u cut down on ur `impressive` phrase and take care of the `points`.
#387 Posted by masadi on June 9, 2007 12:22:42 pm
In addition, when economists talk about ``structural unemployment`` they are talking about problems produced by the ``structure`` of a particular economic institution, and not individual characteristics of the various unemployed. Now illiterate fool, FOLIO, you want me to explain it to you further? Indeed if there is no regularity or structure to things studying them becomes quite impossible, you could study all 160 million in Pakistan and even then be unable to scientifically generalize without a ``structure``
#386 Posted by masadi on June 9, 2007 12:16:23 pm
Folio writes <<<
Existence of military in the US constitutes existence of social structure? >>>>
The military and its role in the institutional setup of the US is indeed part of the social structure of the US. The US military itself has a structure that is quite visible, it is much different to the free floating militia that existed in early US history, and much different to the structure of Taliban style ``militaries``.
Existence of military in the US constitutes existence of social structure? >>>>
The military and its role in the institutional setup of the US is indeed part of the social structure of the US. The US military itself has a structure that is quite visible, it is much different to the free floating militia that existed in early US history, and much different to the structure of Taliban style ``militaries``.
#385 Posted by Zeena on June 9, 2007 8:25:56 am
#384 is the reply to the above article.........
[[Pakistan....The threat with in]]].....
Yes, this is the threat with in.................
From the board of Pakistan tehreek-e-Insaf.com
[[[i came across an audio tape recorded on 1987, in which altaf of mqm says: ``mahajiro! aslah kharido aslah, tv vcr chhoro, aslah kharido``. mqm is first organization of its kind in pakistan, which started its activities on the basis of smuggled arms. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the terrorists of this organization. mqm`s terrorists are trained in bharat by bharti army. the same bharti army once trained mukti bahini of east pakistan. i read a news story in an old news paper of 1987, in which a pashto speaking muslim was ziped with iron belts and then blown up alive by throwing petrol and then fire. innocent poor pashtoon was requesting: `` please kill me with gun, but please do not blow me up`` mqm`s terrorists were laghing and taunting at the cry of that pashtoon. just imagine the scene in your dreams. mqm has killed thousands and thousands of innocent muslims like that. this is just one single example. any pakistani who believes in quran and our innocent prophet (pbuh) will always hate this terrorist mqm. mqm has purchased millions of dollars of armory from afghan war lords in 1980s. but underground members of zia`s govt like aslam baig and pervaiz musharraf provided full support to this terrorist organization. they had organized fake fights between panjabis,sindhis,pashtoons and urdu speaking community just to strengthen terrorist mqm. whenever see a mqm member just remember these events. these members represent those terrorists,who have unromovable spots of blood on their faces. just always remember it. if you support mqm, it means you support killers, murderers, and remember our prophet (pbuh) never support murderers. please choose the prophet`s way(pbuh). thank you.]]]]
www.tehreek-e-insaaf.com
[[Pakistan....The threat with in]]].....
Yes, this is the threat with in.................
From the board of Pakistan tehreek-e-Insaf.com
[[[i came across an audio tape recorded on 1987, in which altaf of mqm says: ``mahajiro! aslah kharido aslah, tv vcr chhoro, aslah kharido``. mqm is first organization of its kind in pakistan, which started its activities on the basis of smuggled arms. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the terrorists of this organization. mqm`s terrorists are trained in bharat by bharti army. the same bharti army once trained mukti bahini of east pakistan. i read a news story in an old news paper of 1987, in which a pashto speaking muslim was ziped with iron belts and then blown up alive by throwing petrol and then fire. innocent poor pashtoon was requesting: `` please kill me with gun, but please do not blow me up`` mqm`s terrorists were laghing and taunting at the cry of that pashtoon. just imagine the scene in your dreams. mqm has killed thousands and thousands of innocent muslims like that. this is just one single example. any pakistani who believes in quran and our innocent prophet (pbuh) will always hate this terrorist mqm. mqm has purchased millions of dollars of armory from afghan war lords in 1980s. but underground members of zia`s govt like aslam baig and pervaiz musharraf provided full support to this terrorist organization. they had organized fake fights between panjabis,sindhis,pashtoons and urdu speaking community just to strengthen terrorist mqm. whenever see a mqm member just remember these events. these members represent those terrorists,who have unromovable spots of blood on their faces. just always remember it. if you support mqm, it means you support killers, murderers, and remember our prophet (pbuh) never support murderers. please choose the prophet`s way(pbuh). thank you.]]]]
www.tehreek-e-insaaf.com
#384 Posted by Zeena on June 9, 2007 7:45:42 am
From the board of Pakistan tehreek-e-Insaf.com
[[[i came across an audio tape recorded on 1987, in which altaf of mqm says: ``mahajiro! aslah kharido aslah, tv vcr chhoro, aslah kharido``. mqm is first organization of its kind in pakistan, which started its activities on the basis of smuggled arms. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the terrorists of this organization. mqm`s terrorists are trained in bharat by bharti army. the same bharti army once trained mukti bahini of east pakistan. i read a news story in an old news paper of 1987, in which a pashto speaking muslim was ziped with iron belts and then blown up alive by throwing petrol and then fire. innocent poor pashtoon was requesting: `` please kill me with gun, but please do not blow me up`` mqm`s terrorists were laghing and taunting at the cry of that pashtoon. just imagine the scene in your dreams. mqm has killed thousands and thousands of innocent muslims like that. this is just one single example. any pakistani who believes in quran and our innocent prophet (pbuh) will always hate this terrorist mqm. mqm has purchased millions of dollars of armory from afghan war lords in 1980s. but underground members of zia`s govt like aslam baig and pervaiz musharraf provided full support to this terrorist organization. they had organized fake fights between panjabis,sindhis,pashtoons and urdu speaking community just to strengthen terrorist mqm. whenever see a mqm member just remember these events. these members represent those terrorists,who have unromovable spots of blood on their faces. just always remember it. if you support mqm, it means you support killers, murderers, and remember our prophet (pbuh) never support murderers. please choose the prophet`s way(pbuh). thank you.]]]]
www.tehreek-e-insaaf.com
[[[i came across an audio tape recorded on 1987, in which altaf of mqm says: ``mahajiro! aslah kharido aslah, tv vcr chhoro, aslah kharido``. mqm is first organization of its kind in pakistan, which started its activities on the basis of smuggled arms. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the terrorists of this organization. mqm`s terrorists are trained in bharat by bharti army. the same bharti army once trained mukti bahini of east pakistan. i read a news story in an old news paper of 1987, in which a pashto speaking muslim was ziped with iron belts and then blown up alive by throwing petrol and then fire. innocent poor pashtoon was requesting: `` please kill me with gun, but please do not blow me up`` mqm`s terrorists were laghing and taunting at the cry of that pashtoon. just imagine the scene in your dreams. mqm has killed thousands and thousands of innocent muslims like that. this is just one single example. any pakistani who believes in quran and our innocent prophet (pbuh) will always hate this terrorist mqm. mqm has purchased millions of dollars of armory from afghan war lords in 1980s. but underground members of zia`s govt like aslam baig and pervaiz musharraf provided full support to this terrorist organization. they had organized fake fights between panjabis,sindhis,pashtoons and urdu speaking community just to strengthen terrorist mqm. whenever see a mqm member just remember these events. these members represent those terrorists,who have unromovable spots of blood on their faces. just always remember it. if you support mqm, it means you support killers, murderers, and remember our prophet (pbuh) never support murderers. please choose the prophet`s way(pbuh). thank you.]]]]
www.tehreek-e-insaaf.com
#383 Posted by Folio on June 8, 2007 2:40:10 am
ASSadi,
>>Every society has a structure on how roles, arranged in heirarchies (status) persist to form institutions which interact with each other held together by a culture. If you are denying that a family institution exists in the US, that an economy that reproduces inequality, based on private ownership exists in the US, a military as a standardized institution exists in the US.....<<
Yepp, now come to the point. If existence of family structure is called social structure, then all countries in this world had this.
As for the issue of private ownership in the US, does any country, san Cuba hadnt had this? How u expect everybody to have private ownership or everybody to work but not own any businesss enterprises? U must be outta ur mind, ASSadi.
In effect u dont accept capitalism?? May be u must move to Cuba then.
Existence of military in the US constitutes existence of social structure?
ASSadi, u made an ass of ur self.
I cant stop hohohoing now.
>>Every society has a structure on how roles, arranged in heirarchies (status) persist to form institutions which interact with each other held together by a culture. If you are denying that a family institution exists in the US, that an economy that reproduces inequality, based on private ownership exists in the US, a military as a standardized institution exists in the US.....<<
Yepp, now come to the point. If existence of family structure is called social structure, then all countries in this world had this.
As for the issue of private ownership in the US, does any country, san Cuba hadnt had this? How u expect everybody to have private ownership or everybody to work but not own any businesss enterprises? U must be outta ur mind, ASSadi.
In effect u dont accept capitalism?? May be u must move to Cuba then.
Existence of military in the US constitutes existence of social structure?
ASSadi, u made an ass of ur self.
I cant stop hohohoing now.
#382 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 2:56:11 pm
#381 by chaltahai on June 7, 2007 2:53pm PT
your islamofascists blow cars up.
his suicide bomber brothers make car parts...out of cars...
your islamofascists blow cars up.
his suicide bomber brothers make car parts...out of cars...
#381 Posted by chaltahai on June 7, 2007 2:53:23 pm
Re: # 380
Who the heck is this US Elite you keep going on about? Here is the reality..those countries and people in the world that worked and leveraged the models laid out under US global leadership, prospered. China and India realized this too late..but better late then never. Chinese and Indians make car parts..your islamofascists blow cars up. That is the reality you ninny!!
Who the heck is this US Elite you keep going on about? Here is the reality..those countries and people in the world that worked and leveraged the models laid out under US global leadership, prospered. China and India realized this too late..but better late then never. Chinese and Indians make car parts..your islamofascists blow cars up. That is the reality you ninny!!
#380 Posted by masadi on June 7, 2007 11:04:12 am
The sob in #379 was claiming that sociologists have no role in the economy and the well being of the people, and the field is useless. Regarding that bs assertion, I informed him of project camelot where the US elite saw the value of sociologists for THEIR OWN society`s economic well being by being informants due to their knowledge of the potential for internal conflict in Latin American countries and how that could be suppressed in order to keep non democratic governments in power, and I also informed him that sociologists being aware of the working of a society are in a much better position than economists to build consciousness among people for their betterment.
This answer he perverted, in his usual dishonest and immoral fashion to conclude that the only gainful employment for sociologists is being tools of imperial powers. Dishonest AHs like him need to ignored.
This answer he perverted, in his usual dishonest and immoral fashion to conclude that the only gainful employment for sociologists is being tools of imperial powers. Dishonest AHs like him need to ignored.
#379 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 10:30:03 am
#377 by masadi on June 7, 2007 10:08am PT
the sociologists, people whose only value is that they are tools of imperial powers seeking to overthrow democracies, are irrelevant.
the sociologists, people whose only value is that they are tools of imperial powers seeking to overthrow democracies, are irrelevant.
#378 Posted by masadi on June 7, 2007 10:14:47 am
Folio writes <<< I asked u to prove if the US society had any social structure? Instead a picked-up a microscopic straw in the form of a title in one of the RK Merton`s books i/o proving that the US society is structured which u say breeds discrimination. >>
You don`t understand what ``social structure`` means, your question tells that amply. Every society has a structure on how roles, arranged in heirarchies (status) persist to form institutions which interact with each other held together by a culture. If you are denying that a family institution exists in the US, that an economy that reproduces inequality, based on private ownership exists in the US, a military as a standardized institution exists in the US, as does the state apparatus, then what can we talk abou? You question was quite idiotic, I disagree with people who say there can be no stupid questions, maybe for kids but not for those that claim to study as institutions of higher learning; this indeed was quite an idiotic question that shows how uninformed you are about both US society and the world...
You don`t understand what ``social structure`` means, your question tells that amply. Every society has a structure on how roles, arranged in heirarchies (status) persist to form institutions which interact with each other held together by a culture. If you are denying that a family institution exists in the US, that an economy that reproduces inequality, based on private ownership exists in the US, a military as a standardized institution exists in the US, as does the state apparatus, then what can we talk abou? You question was quite idiotic, I disagree with people who say there can be no stupid questions, maybe for kids but not for those that claim to study as institutions of higher learning; this indeed was quite an idiotic question that shows how uninformed you are about both US society and the world...
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