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Pakistani Media to Face Wrath of the Government

Saeed Minhas June 5, 2007

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#100 Posted by Chennai on June 7, 2007 6:37:52 am
Arjun, to give credit to our Muslims, none were ever involved in 9/11 and other shennigans and we have more muslims than Pure land..................
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#99 Posted by Folio on June 7, 2007 6:35:42 am
Arjun,

I dont agree with you.

Not ALL Pakistanis support terrorism. Pl read their newspapers. Unless the reporters are Hindus or Christians, the news reported must be wrong, if they really support terrorism.

I know a lot of middleclass British who support one or other kind of action form their men (terrorism?) but NOT ALL advocate such action.

There`s one Indian Muslim who once a jihadi wrote a book recently. He dissected the extremsim in British Muslim society. Does he support terrorism. Of course not!

On ourside we have a Chowkie by name sanatani. He enjoyed the murder of Samjhouta passengers. What wud Pakistanis say abt Indians then? All Indians are extremists?

We need to see the `big` picture.

We discuss politics on Chowk. We remove ppl from our thoughts. We talk abt the official policies of Pak. Unfortunately they had the most unreprsentative govt there. How then the official polcies be dubbed as the will of the ppl of Pakistan?
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#98 Posted by Chennai on June 7, 2007 6:35:11 am
Re:#95 by Folio:

Folio, if they want economic betterment they need to do one hell of a lot of things before even dreaming of getting there.....

They could start with maybe acknowledging that they have zilch arab genes :))

Seriously, I know what you mean but I``m afraid it looks like a lost cause......

My take is , better the military than the mullah..........
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#97 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:30:34 am
tell me something folio

If the pakis are ``just like us``, why doesn`t a week go by news of some paki somewhere getting busted for terrorism...

India has 7 times as many people as pakiland and almost as many muslims...why were pakis required to register first after 9/11 and not Indians?

How come there are no Indians in gitmo but a bunch of pakis?
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#96 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:10:31 am
#91 by Folio on June 7, 2007 4:48am PT



I know what u mean but most of the ppl are like us in India.


No they`re not...most of them support the use of islamic terrorism or what they call jihad...

If there are any pakis who genuinely don`t support terrorism, they`re like the unfortunate residents of dresden who didn`t really support nazism...

stop deluding yourself...you think pakis care about your average indian? heck no...paki rats like tahmed may fake concern for all humankind but when passenger trains are bombed in india, abdul paki thinks they deserved it because of kashmir...and this isn`t anecdotal..most pakis openly say it...the letters to the editors of their newspapers say the same thing..

get your head out of the sand...
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#95 Posted by Folio on June 7, 2007 5:36:14 am
Channai,

I agree 2 what u said. What we look at is not what we see.

They too want good life i.e economic betterment. Look at their immigration figures and look at their (Pakistanis) deportation figures. They are so desparate to leave Pakistan. So were many in India. Lookat the Gujju effers. The rate to take u abroad was 8 lakhs in 2002. Look at our MPs who`re escorting ppl to Canada. The rate is 30 lakhs!

Plz dont force me talk like Tahmed abt Pakistan. I share ur concerns visavis India but aam ppl are different. They are the product of their society which is hightly feudal and of late highly communal. They want to be part of larger Muslim/Arab world but they wud remian in the wings 4ever coz arabs never give passports to non-arabs, even to cock-sucking Pakistanis like Zeemax.
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#94 Posted by Chennai on June 7, 2007 5:23:33 am
Folio:

Most of the Pakis are absolutely different from Indians in that their mindset is only on religion and more religion........and exporting violent versions of it round the globe......

Look at this board for instance....there are radical pakis who want everyone to get Islamized, Punj Pakis slugging it out with Mohajirs, Sindhi Muslims eyeing both suspiciously, Balochi & pathans wistfully looking at the neibouring countries.....

India & pakistan.....chalk & cheese man!
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#93 Posted by mohar11 on June 7, 2007 4:58:19 am
Re: # 91
[...most of the ppl are like us in India. ...]

Not really... that`s the fallacy that indians too often fall for... Like I said - making your country a terrorist pit takes certain mindsets... that`s very unique...
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#92 Posted by Folio on June 7, 2007 4:55:39 am
Arjun,

>>I enjoy any meat...especially over the grill... <<

:-))

That`s zabardast.
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#91 Posted by Folio on June 7, 2007 4:48:31 am
Mohar,

I know what u mean but most of the ppl are like us in India. I dont think all poor abduls are into these madrasas. As I see, most of the JH an JF are from rich bakgrounds. The poorer ones u say are from NWFP.

I think we need to know Pakistan fully. Pl keep watching Pak TV and interact with Pak ppl. Prolly that wud smoothen ur rough edges. Btw, I had mmmany Pak friends some are jigri friends.

Not all Pakis are Zeemaxes and Abu Safwans. There MinazJs, TE Shahs and lots of unnamed ppl on Chowk itself who rile their own country for its propensity for religous extremism.

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#90 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 4:43:12 am
#86 by Folio on June 7, 2007 4:21am PT

I enjoy any meat...especially over the grill...

and isn`t it funny how pakis weren`t talking about poverty and the condition of the common man when they thought their islamic jihadi adventures were about to land them kashmir...hardly a dissenting voice against the use of islamic fundamentalism as a policy tool then...then, one day in sept 2001, things changed and pakis were falling all over themselves to distance themselves from the indigenous freedom fighters..it`s funny what mandatory registration , fingerprinting and deportation will do...

as far as I`m concerned, there are two types of pakis...those who openly say they support islamic terrorism and then there`s the other kind...liars..
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#89 Posted by mohar11 on June 7, 2007 4:37:53 am
Re: # 86
[...Most of the ppl who makeup for both India and Pakistan are the poor, poorer and the poorest...]

True... but then, what do you do when the poor abdul[sometimes, not so poor] gets trained in his madrassa and gets over here and blasts the sh!t out of you, literally...

See - it`s not a very easy moral situation here... if abdul is just poor, we have all symathies for him... but when he is violent and maniac fed with heady brew of islam and nonsense - it`s impossible to be symathetic to him, no matter what his economic situation is...

You can make a case that not all abduls are violent and you are right... but does that really make a difference to the victims of the wanton islamofascism-inspired violence?...

You tell me...
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#88 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 4:35:22 am
#83 by bjkumar on June 6, 2007 9:40pm PT

who said it accomplishes anything? what does having 8 ids on chowk accomplish?
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#87 Posted by mohar11 on June 7, 2007 4:27:13 am
BJ dude

Why are you so riled up?... what`s up with this holier-than-thou BS?...

I am sure pakis are ``good`` people individually, but collectively they have proved to be otherwise.... I mean, the country is a veritable terrorist breeding ground... that doesn`t happen in a vacuum, it needs wide support and sustainance... it needs a certain mindset and malice...

We all want pakiland to be ruled by the ``good Dr`` instead of the army... but what`s the chance of that happening? we all want india to be ruled by Narayan Murthy, but that won`t happen... so why are you being a drama queen on hypothetical propostions?...
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#86 Posted by Folio on June 7, 2007 4:21:42 am
Arjun,

I have my own differences with Tahmed and his ilk here but I think u are going too low, kinda below belt on other board where u compared Muhammed with a pig i.e incarnation of Lord Vishnu? Dont think too reverential abt cow. On the scale of reverence pig shud be above cow becoz pig is one of the incarnations of Lord Vishnu. U love to eat spare-ribs but not the rump-steak?

I know u hate terrorism and its breeding ground (Pakistan) but I guess u dont hate their traditional Indian/subcontinental Islam which is not of extremist-type.

Like India they too had poorer ppl who dont know who`s the `king` in Islamabad. They dont understand the concept of a capital city, nor abt government. If u ask them who`s the president of Pakistan, they`d not know what that means. Most of the ppl who makeup for both India and Pakistan are the poor, poorer and the poorest.



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#85 Posted by mohar11 on June 7, 2007 4:13:26 am
zeena

Benazir and Nawaz haven`t done any worse than politicians/demagogues in India[ ``strong`` country, in your opinion] or any other country for that matter... I mean, we have laloos, mulayams, advanis, commies and host of other fools running around wrecking havoc... and even look at the demagogues running around in US these days...

Nawaz has failed alright... but then you pakis have failed too... when he was deposed, you danced in the streets... you didn`t realize that it`s not Nawaz that is being thrown out, it`s your right to make the decision that`s being thrown out... Bad as nawaz was, deposing him is a decision that only people should make, not the army...

That`s a failure worse than anything nawaz and bb may have done... that`s the main problem...
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