The Silent Majority Speaks

As an Indian , i feel that Pakistan army has a country and pakistanis to get served by , rather than a country and pakistanis to serve . Army is bigger than the nation !!! Pakistan does not need any ``dushman`` in India... only the Pak Army needs India to stay powerful in Pakistan..Think about it.

Pakistan as we know it is doomed. Punjab Univeristy is protecting the plagiarizing faculty from Physics department. Lawyers are ``outlawed`` and Judges are being Judged! Dande-Waliyan of Lal Masjid are terrorizing the Mush regime right in Isloo. Altaf Bhai is on a killing spree - remote controlled from London of course. Imran is prevented from traveling within Pakistan. People of Pakistan have no where to turn to, we all know that BB and Nawaz are ``expired medicines``.
All I can do is to invest in Karachi Stock Market -

Pakis...congrats...you`ve really made history...For the first time in the world, the cops have cracked the skulls of lawyers and the people have come down on the side of the lawyers...

nice article,but now i think the civil society should stop talking of these high ranked red collar military officers involved in civil matters.bcoz now the game has moved to another level, first get these SOBEDAARS and HAWALDAARS out of civil institutions.
Just imagine that in Punjab a JCO,sobedaar and hawaaldar has been given the responsibility to rade publically owned schools and hospitals to check the performance of Teachers and Doctors.

A Lie,
Complaining against oppression, injustice, hegemony, rape, looting, and murder does sound like a ``broken record.`` Some people are already sick of the Holocaust - but it doesn`t stop those who want to make sure that such misdeeds are NEVER repeated again. NEVER AGAIN, KOPEK!

Imran,

You raised some very good points but what fears me the most is who will be the one to take his place. We have had enough with all the crappy political leaders and I don`t see any hope for a better change.
God Bless Pakistan formed in the name of Islam with worst followers as the nation.

Under what law is the Chief of Army Staff addressing a meeting of a political party?

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=8350

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/jun-2007/7/index3.php


This is a blatant violation of his oath.

slimey

u sound like a broken record... give it up already!!!

1. Pakistan Army is run with public money.



2. From the most junior foot soldier to the Chief of Army Staff, all personnel of Pakistan Army are salaried government employees.



3. Pakistan Army is one of many departments of the Ministry of Defence, headed by the Minister of Defence



4. Being a department of the government, Pakistan Army is not above criticism. There is nothing `holy` or `sacred` about Pakistan Army.



5. In all civilised countries, Parliament has the right to know how public money is spent. However, Pakistan Army has never given an account of its expenditures to anyone. No Pakistani general has ever appeared before the Public Accounts Committee.




6. Oath of Office of members of Pakistan Army



Article 244, Third Schedule, Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan



(In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful)

I,

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, do solemnly swear that I will bear true faith and allegiance to Pakistan and uphold the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which embodies the will of the people, that I will not engage myself in any political activities whatsoever and that I will honestly and faithfully serve Pakistan in the Pakistan Army as required by and under the law.



May Allah Almighty help me and guide me (A`meen)



7. When the Army is called out to help the civil administration in times of natural calamities or law and order situations, it is not an act of charity (ihsan); the Army simply does its duty for which it is paid. Every national Army in every country does the same. Moreover, Pakistan Army does not help the civil administration free of charge; it gets extra payment for its services.



8. Pakistan Army has never won a war.



9. Despite being a political party in all but name, and despite ruling the country, directly and indirectly, for much of its existence, Pakistan Army has never won an election.



10. Pakistan Army has conquered Pakistan 4 times.

abu safwan saheb...
either you are related to safwan shah, the owner of this site or you are related to general musharraf saheb because anyone else would have been banned for fucking ``chowk guide lines`` by now but you continue to conquer all that you survey...your behaviour on chowk and your put-downs of the lowly hindoos proves your superior genes and immaculate upbringing...iqbal prolly had you in mind when he wrote about the mard-e-momin...

nigaheN mard-e-momin se badal jaati haiN taqdeeraiN

#44 by muqaddam on June 6, 2007 9:59am PT

abu_goatbrain`s great-great-great grandmother should be entitled to a canadian visa and a million $$..unless she liked it...

#24 by chennai on June 5, 2007 6:46pm PT
#20 by Salim_Chauhan
{``Salim, Is it true that these stranded Pakis in B`desh no longer wish to come back to Pakistan and prefer being B`deshis.........
What is the official response of the GOP to their plight..........``}

Chennai Sahib,
People make up all sorts of flimsy and hypocrtical excuses to justify their own unjust, cruel, and racist actions. After 35 years of being ``stranded`` in Bangladesh, and with the continuing poverty, disease, and depravation, it`s possible that in a few more generations, these unfortunate people will not even know what Pakistan is. Then the self-righteous, racist, bigots like Tahmed420 will proclaim ``See these Biharis don`t even know what Pakistan is - how do you expect us to take them?`` :)

The offical GoP response is dead silence on this open/shut case. Saudi Arabia even offered to pay for the costs of their repatriation, but the shameless Punjaibis refused to allow their return. Some officials call them ``Biharis,`` others call them ``Bangladeshi citizens.`` This is the biggest shame on Pakistan`s much blighted face - probably the ONLY 3rd class nation that refuses to readmit its own citizens after losing a cowardly-fought war.

majumdar #28, {``The earthquake part was uncalled for. How were the poor kids who died in the earthquakes responsible for the tragedy of 1971, including what is continuing till today- the Bihari issue. ``}

Majumdar,
Sir, you are absolutely right. That was uncalled for. I just wanted to remind the self-righteous Paki Punjus here that there is a God - and, whether we like it or not, He does punish the transgressors in strange ways. By not allowing 300,000 dark-skinned Pakistanis ``stranded`` in BD, the Paki Punju estabishment may have earned God`s wrath at the expense of innocent, but lighter-skinned people who may be dearer to Paki Punju hearts. Sad, but possibly true.

#35 by narmi on June 6, 2007 3:20am PT


Mutual self respect is very important.


Why do I need to respect a bunch of people who support islamic terrorism...islamic terrorism that is a threat to the whole world....why do I need to respect a bunch of people who have shown a propensity for islamic jihad and getting busted regularly in the process?

Dear Friends (from both sides of the border), Keep the conversation healthy and refrain from critisizing each other in a way that sentiments are hurt! This is a forum for open minds and contructive discussions, let us keep it that way. Mutual self respect is very important. Destiny has made us neigbours, we can make the neigbourhood friendly.....
take care all of you.

Re: # 35

Response of the day!

lets try to learn how to respect each other...

I found this a very sensible post after the initial one by Folio.

Good article by Imran. I feel that most of the writings are lost to the responses that go off the mark and become full of hate.

regards,