Nadeem F Paracha June 12, 2007
#10 Posted by Love2love on June 12, 2007 10:17:39 am
PS: And oh, how we wish you too were a ``moron of a druggie.`` :P
#9 Posted by Love2love on June 12, 2007 10:13:52 am
Boy you can be stupid, Zeemax. That monkey clip on that show NFP hosts with Fasi Zaka, I saw it too. And the joke was NOT on Imran Khan from anywhere. As far as I remember, NFP said something about the monkey de-evolving into George Bush. Stop being an idiot all the time. Chill, jenaab.
#8 Posted by zeemax on June 12, 2007 10:04:11 am
... in fact ... what he thinks is good TV is that stupid show called news/views/confused something in which he appears with the elephant man. I was amazed last time I happened across it when they were showing the clip of a monkey feeling his behind and sniffing its fingers and falling off the tree. Idea they were presenting was it was Imran khan.
That`s journalism in good taste for this moron of a druggie.
That`s journalism in good taste for this moron of a druggie.
#7 Posted by zeemax on June 12, 2007 9:59:34 am
#6 by cliftonbridge,
When was there any violence in any of CJs rallies to `sensationalize` about as this failed `TV personality` writes?
When was there any violence in any of CJs rallies to `sensationalize` about as this failed `TV personality` writes?
#6 Posted by cliftonbridge on June 12, 2007 9:55:20 am
CNN is a totally crap ``news`` source just as ana says, pakistani channels have yet to mature but i think that the defiance of govt by the paki channels even in a sensational way is acceptable if not responsible. Since there are only two primal urges sex and violence its no surprise that violence should sell in Pakistan :)
#5 Posted by Wolfe on June 12, 2007 9:55:16 am
kullo, as usual you`ve made this into a total black and white thing. as if saying either you`ve commercialism or not. for you there is no centerism. also, paracha is not really preaching anything. he`s merely saying that usually fox-like channels work better when they are pro-government AND the centerist channels like BBC (I agree with ana, CNN is not a ``centrist`` channel; it`s more like geo with sattelite technology + hot chics + better english) still have more impact even though their veiwership is not as huge as geos of the world.
chaltahai, why are you so stupid? and pretentious?
chaltahai, why are you so stupid? and pretentious?
#21 Posted by Kulharee on June 12, 2007 11:26:57 am
Re: # 5
Wolfe, Der Speigal is a German magazine that gets under Bush’s and other world leaders’ skins, in case you didn’t know. And how did you come up with what I wrote as a criticism of Paracha Sahib’s article? Are you sure that I see this as black and white? Caz I am not sure how that might be the case.
Parach Sahib’s article’s whole premise is, and let me quote:
“So I wonder, what is sicker? State brutality or the brutality being turned into a sensational slide show by the channels to improve their ratings and attract viewrship?” (viewer-ship)
He goes on to suggest that independent/private TV is more of a nuisance (in some cases) than the state oppression of media. All the terms used are purely relative and can’t be taken out of context. What may be considered conservative in Karachi might not be Jeddah, like showing female breasts in primetime.
What I was suggesting is that more media is better than less media, even if it means that there will be lots of crappy outlets. Freedom of speech can be dangerous, and the only thing that can lever that danger is more freedom of speech.
Wolfie, I just had lunch with Chaltahai, we talked about you (in a very disapproving way). Wew both think that you suck!
Wolfe, Der Speigal is a German magazine that gets under Bush’s and other world leaders’ skins, in case you didn’t know. And how did you come up with what I wrote as a criticism of Paracha Sahib’s article? Are you sure that I see this as black and white? Caz I am not sure how that might be the case.
Parach Sahib’s article’s whole premise is, and let me quote:
“So I wonder, what is sicker? State brutality or the brutality being turned into a sensational slide show by the channels to improve their ratings and attract viewrship?” (viewer-ship)
He goes on to suggest that independent/private TV is more of a nuisance (in some cases) than the state oppression of media. All the terms used are purely relative and can’t be taken out of context. What may be considered conservative in Karachi might not be Jeddah, like showing female breasts in primetime.
What I was suggesting is that more media is better than less media, even if it means that there will be lots of crappy outlets. Freedom of speech can be dangerous, and the only thing that can lever that danger is more freedom of speech.
Wolfie, I just had lunch with Chaltahai, we talked about you (in a very disapproving way). Wew both think that you suck!
#4 Posted by Love2love on June 12, 2007 9:31:49 am
The only Pakistani news channel that has really stood out is Aaj TV. Otherwise I agree that most other channels went a bit overboard with the CJP issue.
#3 Posted by Kulharee on June 12, 2007 9:21:13 am
Paracha Sahib, Private channels only have profit maximization in mind and they will sell what sells, each minute of production plus airtime in the US costs roughly 5 million dollars per transmitter, therefore the repetition of the day’s events. What is also kinda strange is that people have so much time to be watching TV all day. These repetitions on CNN and FOX, etc are for people who only have an hour to sit in front of TV, as opposed to all day. For them there is Discovery channel.
I believe it is rather presumptuous to suggest to a private entity how to conduct its business. Private TV channels don’t owe anyone anything. And if their reporting is skewed in one’s favor over another’s, that’s jut life. If you want to change the gun laws, become part of the NRA and fight from within.
My question to you is, why don’t you gather some likeminded people (journalists) to open up your own shop? Have an equivalent of the Der Speigal in the world of Nawa-e-Waqats.
I believe it is rather presumptuous to suggest to a private entity how to conduct its business. Private TV channels don’t owe anyone anything. And if their reporting is skewed in one’s favor over another’s, that’s jut life. If you want to change the gun laws, become part of the NRA and fight from within.
My question to you is, why don’t you gather some likeminded people (journalists) to open up your own shop? Have an equivalent of the Der Speigal in the world of Nawa-e-Waqats.
#2 Posted by chaltahai on June 12, 2007 8:52:41 am
Ana, In the end it is still business. I would hate to see sensationalism go mainstream. But it is a trend that is here to stay. If the WSJ can go NY Post upon Murdoch`s impending purchase, BBC will not be far behind. I understand that BBC is owned by the gov`t but sooner or later it will lose viewership to sensationalist reporting. Afterall, this is what we want..we like to see Paris Hilton crying on the tube.
Vaisey, if you are the Ana from the past..then good to see you post again. Even if you are not..good to see you post anyway
Vaisey, if you are the Ana from the past..then good to see you post again. Even if you are not..good to see you post anyway
#1 Posted by ana on June 12, 2007 7:13:31 am
Nadeem,
If I were to disagree with you on anything in this, it would be your characterization of CNN as a ``centrist`` and ``moderate`` channel. I personally prefer watching a BBC news programme when I can, and going to their website, but CNN does its share of sensationalizing as well and with folks like Wolf Blitzer, well. . . . I think some would disagree with your characterization of the BBC as well. Still none of them can beat Fox TV. . .
If I were to disagree with you on anything in this, it would be your characterization of CNN as a ``centrist`` and ``moderate`` channel. I personally prefer watching a BBC news programme when I can, and going to their website, but CNN does its share of sensationalizing as well and with folks like Wolf Blitzer, well. . . . I think some would disagree with your characterization of the BBC as well. Still none of them can beat Fox TV. . .
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