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Nadeem F Paracha June 12, 2007
#49 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 13, 2007 8:05:04 am
Urstruly #47 {``. The ethnic hatered that you, salim, and many other MQM supporters spew at this website is in fact the normal discourse that MQM engages its own people in``}
Maulana Sahib,
Somehow your consistently anti-Urdu speaking, anti-Mohajir rhetoric betrays the sincerity of your pan-Islamic and pious self-righteous propaganda. Sir, your mominocity is under suspicion - you come across as a racist, fundo, bigot - albeit with a beard. :(
Maulana Sahib,
Somehow your consistently anti-Urdu speaking, anti-Mohajir rhetoric betrays the sincerity of your pan-Islamic and pious self-righteous propaganda. Sir, your mominocity is under suspicion - you come across as a racist, fundo, bigot - albeit with a beard. :(
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#50 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 8:17:36 am
Re: # 49
Despite being the first hand witness to the attrocities committed by MQM, I actaully had forgiven and forgotten since MQM was begining to enter into mainstream politics albiet under the auspices of a dictator ( who isn`t) but two events have changed my mind. One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution.
Despite being the first hand witness to the attrocities committed by MQM, I actaully had forgiven and forgotten since MQM was begining to enter into mainstream politics albiet under the auspices of a dictator ( who isn`t) but two events have changed my mind. One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution.
#51 Posted by zeemax on June 13, 2007 8:45:15 am
What amazes me even more is NFP has the cheek to say:
But had you been on the streets of Karachi on May 12, you too would have realized that each and every political party exhibited the kind of violence MQM is blamed for.
Did `each and every political party` use the entire tanker fleet of the city to block roads (while the residents went without water/fuel and the arriving air-passengers had to wait out 36 hours surviving on biscuits) as well as make the law enforcing agencies disappear in thin air?
But had you been on the streets of Karachi on May 12, you too would have realized that each and every political party exhibited the kind of violence MQM is blamed for.
Did `each and every political party` use the entire tanker fleet of the city to block roads (while the residents went without water/fuel and the arriving air-passengers had to wait out 36 hours surviving on biscuits) as well as make the law enforcing agencies disappear in thin air?
#52 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 8:48:43 am
Re: # 47
Urstruly,
{I am a survivor of ethnic cleansing of MQM}....fast foward.....{The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition of} change MQM to every self-righteous bigot, huund kuch samaj ayee, gamay.
Its very easy to copy and paste, stereo-type people, counter opinions by demonizing the messenger and forment popular propaganda.
Urstruly,
{I am a survivor of ethnic cleansing of MQM}....fast foward.....{The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition of} change MQM to every self-righteous bigot, huund kuch samaj ayee, gamay.
Its very easy to copy and paste, stereo-type people, counter opinions by demonizing the messenger and forment popular propaganda.
#53 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 8:59:03 am
Re: # 50
{One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year}
For your generous knowledge, it was the Wahabi connection responsible for the attack not Mqm and this has been proven by continued warfare btw Sunni-wahabi factions in Frontier.
{and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution}
Aik tho becharra camel is always given the third degree (broken back). Mqm chose to side with the dictator? You are looking for excuses to perpetuate your narrow minded bigotry, had u been a benevolent, fair minded person u wud have not made this conclusion. MMA was and remains part of the Govt in Baluchistan, runs NWFP and has the leader of opposition enjoying all the benefits. Not one member, not one has resigned from Baluchistan or Frontier as a token of protest, niether has the leader of opposition. So where is the morality, political principles you lament? Duplicity is the name off the game, this is politics and mma like mqm has chosen their political allies.
{One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year}
For your generous knowledge, it was the Wahabi connection responsible for the attack not Mqm and this has been proven by continued warfare btw Sunni-wahabi factions in Frontier.
{and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution}
Aik tho becharra camel is always given the third degree (broken back). Mqm chose to side with the dictator? You are looking for excuses to perpetuate your narrow minded bigotry, had u been a benevolent, fair minded person u wud have not made this conclusion. MMA was and remains part of the Govt in Baluchistan, runs NWFP and has the leader of opposition enjoying all the benefits. Not one member, not one has resigned from Baluchistan or Frontier as a token of protest, niether has the leader of opposition. So where is the morality, political principles you lament? Duplicity is the name off the game, this is politics and mma like mqm has chosen their political allies.
#54 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 9:01:05 am
Re: # 51
Zeemax
How is the security business? iam sure u must be thrilled with all this free marketing.
Zeemax
How is the security business? iam sure u must be thrilled with all this free marketing.
#55 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 9:28:05 am
Re: # 53
The sirkari moulvis of MMA are definitely several degrees worst than the lowest that Pakistani political arena has to offer. These despicable sorry excuse for human beings are direct responsible for the attrocities and crimes that NaPak fouj has committed against the people of Pakistan - among which massacre of school children and disappearance of citizens are most notable. Their crimes against the people of pakistan also include legitmizing an unconstitutional dictatorship, vilation of the constitution of 1973, and being part of an illegal and unconstitutional set up perpetrated by military mafia. Rest assured, I consider MQM way better than these syassi haramzadas.
The factional fighting of ``sunnis and wahabis in frontier`` comes as a news to me. Could you please elaborate.
The sirkari moulvis of MMA are definitely several degrees worst than the lowest that Pakistani political arena has to offer. These despicable sorry excuse for human beings are direct responsible for the attrocities and crimes that NaPak fouj has committed against the people of Pakistan - among which massacre of school children and disappearance of citizens are most notable. Their crimes against the people of pakistan also include legitmizing an unconstitutional dictatorship, vilation of the constitution of 1973, and being part of an illegal and unconstitutional set up perpetrated by military mafia. Rest assured, I consider MQM way better than these syassi haramzadas.
The factional fighting of ``sunnis and wahabis in frontier`` comes as a news to me. Could you please elaborate.
#56 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 13, 2007 9:38:21 am
Urstruly,
I had more respect for you when you were just a Muslim. Now, you can join Chacha Chaar Sau Bees and others in the Punju Bigot`s Hall of Shame. Whast a waste of perceived mominocity! :)
I had more respect for you when you were just a Muslim. Now, you can join Chacha Chaar Sau Bees and others in the Punju Bigot`s Hall of Shame. Whast a waste of perceived mominocity! :)
#57 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 10:02:57 am
Re: # 55
google Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman, this feud has been going on for quite sometime and has resulted in numerous deaths on both sides.
google Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman, this feud has been going on for quite sometime and has resulted in numerous deaths on both sides.
#58 Posted by iron_mask on June 13, 2007 10:08:35 am
all of you guys - what makes you think NFP is interetsted in all of this. He has just asked you guys to ``fuks off``...dont you read the title of the article....
#59 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 10:10:22 am
THE POLITICAL INGREDIENTS OF AN ISLAMIC POLITY
By Dr. Israr Ahmad
[Interesting that I absolutely agree with Dr. Israr on his take on American Presidential System]
#60 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 10:20:04 am
Re: # 57
Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman are non-entities beyond their own district; I would rather pay heed to what Sunni Tehrik itself has to say. In addition, when MQM has people like Babar Ghouri it doesn`t need enemies. His interview with Dr. Shahid Masud leaves little to doubt that what MQM and fouj had been upto prior to and after the masacre of 4/11 at Nishtar Park.
Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman are non-entities beyond their own district; I would rather pay heed to what Sunni Tehrik itself has to say. In addition, when MQM has people like Babar Ghouri it doesn`t need enemies. His interview with Dr. Shahid Masud leaves little to doubt that what MQM and fouj had been upto prior to and after the masacre of 4/11 at Nishtar Park.
#61 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 11:32:47 am
Re: # 60
Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif ur Rehman non-entities? Maybe they do not qualify as ``problem terrorists`` in your book of righteousness, but reality is very different and scary.
Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif ur Rehman non-entities? Maybe they do not qualify as ``problem terrorists`` in your book of righteousness, but reality is very different and scary.
#62 Posted by ana on June 13, 2007 6:48:06 pm
baaghiyon ka raja #17
apologies. I had momentarily forgotten the irony of the ``inverted commas.`` but i don`t know if anything should even be compared to fox ``news.`` at least CNN and BBC are still news channels, whereas Fox is not. :)
apologies. I had momentarily forgotten the irony of the ``inverted commas.`` but i don`t know if anything should even be compared to fox ``news.`` at least CNN and BBC are still news channels, whereas Fox is not. :)
#63 Posted by Urstruly on June 14, 2007 7:21:47 am
WHO THE GUCK ASKED FOR YOUR OPINION
I really resent NaPak Fauj selling out our country to foreigners. Chief election commissioner should be telling all this to people of Pakistan, take them into confidence, instead of masters of fouji mafioso who are on cia payroll.
#64 Posted by AhmadBilal on June 14, 2007 2:28:22 pm
Nadeem, have you switched to Khabarnama on PTV as the most authentic news source? The graphic content on public television channels should be moderated, but censorship beyond that steps on the freedom of expression. Ultimately, given all choices, the viewers need to make the call on what they want to watch. The state of affairs in Pakistan is not ``normal`` these days and that is reflected in the media (both local and international). Unfortunately, it just seems to be getting worse, as Musharraf is trying to cling to power by all means while his honeymoon with the US is approaching its logical end.
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