Allama Iqbal and His Women

Re: # 16

I`m assuming your post is facetious....

Brother echoboom,

Could you email this tortuous piece to President Khatami just as he tortured us with his long winded schpiel about Iqbal?

Re: # 17

neembu,

Kindly post your response without that assumption.

Re: # 19

Kaka,

Kindly refrain from making ridiculous comments.

Kehtay heN ke Iqbal ka hey adaaz-e-bayan aur
Le aaeNgay bazaar se hum jaa ke dilo jaan aur :)

Salim-Chauhan: #21
Unfortunately, you garbled two beautiful verses of Ghalib together into one and ascribed it to Iqbal. The correct verses are as follows:

Tum shahr mein ho, tau hamai`n kya gham? jabb uthai`n gay
Lay a`ai`nay gay bazar say ja kar dil-o-jaa`n aur

Hain aur bhee duniya mein sukhnwar bahut achhay
Kahtay hain keh Ghalib ka haiy andaz-e-baya`n aur.

With regards,

Mohammad Gill

ghusse meN aa ke maiN ne kaha apni saas se
kucch der merii biibii ka piichha bhii chooR de
beTii ke saath maaN mujhe tasliim hai magar
lekin kabhii kabhii ise tanha bhii chooR de

On a serious note, though, there is a verse of Iqbal, that together with one by Faiz, has stood me in good stead in moments of despair. I post both these below:

nahiiN hai na-ummiid Iqbal apnii kasht-e-viiraaN se
zara nam ho to yeh mitti baRi zar-Khez hai saaqii


dil na-ummiid to nahiiN, na-kaam hii to hai
laMbii hai gham kii shaam, magar shaam hii to hai

Personal lives are just that - stories of human interest (which, as in this case, can be great). Agree with colonel and hamzaad. Iqbal was a great poet who accomplished much. Enough to earn a huge amount of genuine respect for his positive contributions.

he was also the most original muslim thinker since the middle ages...and a great devotee of the Messenger, especially in his latter years where his persian verse pining for Madina leaves tears in one`s eyes.

``Abru-ye ma zi naam e Mustafa ast``

not to mention the greatest Farsi poet in the classical mode since probably Mawlana Jami.

Not bad for a single person eh? A great, great man. His human flaws make him even more endearing.

As for his Persian book Javidnamah it is one of the greatest masterpieces of world literature on a par with anything by Goethe, Shakespeare, Dante or Rumi (for example). It was also brilliantly translated by Arberry. If I had the money to personally republish that translation as part of the Oxford World Classics series I would.

Tere azaad bandon ki na yeh duniya na woh duniya
Yahaan marnay kii pabandi, wahaan jeenay ki pabandi!

---

Do aalam se karta hai begaana dil ko
Ajab cheez hai, lazzat e aashna`ee!

(I wonder if he wrote that after one of his meetings with Atiya? It also can be interpreted in a Sufi sense).

Re: # 25
naqshbandi saheb...


...in yout honest opinion,who is a better poet between allama iqbal and reza khan barelvi...

#22 by freethinker on June 10, 2007 1:42pm PT
Salim-Chauhan: #21
Unfortunately, you garbled two beautiful verses of Ghalib together into one and ascribed it to Iqbal. The correct verses are as follows:

Gil Sahib,
Thank you very much. I knew that it was Ghalib - I was just having fun at Iqbal`s amorous quantity. :)

Salim-Chauhan: #29
I am sorry if I misread your subtle ``play of words.`` This ghazl of Ghalib is so popular that it was sung by Mohammad Rafi for a film. May be that was the reason for its popularity with the movie-goers. I wondered how one could mix it up with Iqbal. The fact is that both Ghalib and Iqbal are my favorite poets and if any one misquotes them, I feel hurt.
Be well,
Mohammad Gill

Gill Sahib {``The fact is that both Ghalib and Iqbal are my favorite poets and if any one misquotes them, I feel hurt. ``}

I know what you mean. The pain was totally unintentional. :)
I too, in my limited knowledge of Urdu literature and poetry, admire both of these giants.

Ya Rab dil-e-Muslim ko woh zinda tamanna de
Jo dil ko taRpaade Jo qalb ko garmaade

or was the qalb part before the dil part?

Jo qalb ko garmaade Jo dil ko taRpaade. :)

salim chauhan...
forget shair-o-shayeri...your forte is denigrating people...specially punjabis whom you still consider humans...but who knows... irtiqaii manaazil tayy kerne ke baad aap unheN kissi aur sinf maiN bhi tabdeel ker saktay haiN...