kamil rextin June 23, 2007
#322 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 28, 2007 6:26:21 am
#321 are you talking about ``gender`` or ``sexuality``?
#321 Posted by Chennai on June 28, 2007 5:57:27 am
Re: # 320
Chennai,
I am not sure of ur gender. Hope I didnt offend u with my crude joke. :-(
No No, I am one of either male or female and not the ``other`` so no offence taken........:))
Chennai,
I am not sure of ur gender. Hope I didnt offend u with my crude joke. :-(
No No, I am one of either male or female and not the ``other`` so no offence taken........:))
#320 Posted by Folio on June 28, 2007 5:43:55 am
Chennai,
I am not sure of ur gender. Hope I didnt offend u with my crude joke. :-(
BJ,
Call it iIslamic or Persian, these guyz were well advanced in mathematics and science. If u see the Golconda fort u wud see a couple of things that standout. First and foremost is Acoustics!
U can stand still at the focal point under any dome and make a faintest sound eg like pull ur shirt tight and snap it with ur finger or a tap on a pencil. U would hear it loudly in resound. Look at the roof of those domes. They were symmetric, curvy and perfectly united in their focal points i.e unless they all had one focal point, it cant generate such huge resound. This is possible even after the fort was ran over by the maruading Mogul forces under Aurangzeb!
Look at another magic of their science. Stand at the entracne of the fort and give a small clap. U can hear it on the top of the mountain right at the main palace of the King. Btw, these claps are not heard in any other part of the fort and mind u that the Gate and King`s Palace are like a km away!
Look at the contemporary list of Mathematical Olympiads. U`d find Iranians in top 10, way ahead of Indians in some cases.
I need not elaborate on the mathematicians of the Middle East, predating Islam.
I am not sure of ur gender. Hope I didnt offend u with my crude joke. :-(
BJ,
Call it iIslamic or Persian, these guyz were well advanced in mathematics and science. If u see the Golconda fort u wud see a couple of things that standout. First and foremost is Acoustics!
U can stand still at the focal point under any dome and make a faintest sound eg like pull ur shirt tight and snap it with ur finger or a tap on a pencil. U would hear it loudly in resound. Look at the roof of those domes. They were symmetric, curvy and perfectly united in their focal points i.e unless they all had one focal point, it cant generate such huge resound. This is possible even after the fort was ran over by the maruading Mogul forces under Aurangzeb!
Look at another magic of their science. Stand at the entracne of the fort and give a small clap. U can hear it on the top of the mountain right at the main palace of the King. Btw, these claps are not heard in any other part of the fort and mind u that the Gate and King`s Palace are like a km away!
Look at the contemporary list of Mathematical Olympiads. U`d find Iranians in top 10, way ahead of Indians in some cases.
I need not elaborate on the mathematicians of the Middle East, predating Islam.
#319 Posted by samar1982 on June 28, 2007 5:12:34 am
masadi Saheb,
Religion can`t unite one billion plus people even if you eliminate USA/UK/India/China from the map of the world. It is useless to blame others for the infighting within Islam be it for ethnicity, language, colour in addition to the religion itself.
Till the likes of you are there only allah can save poor Muslims from the schism created by the interpreters of Quran, you appear to be one of them.
Samar
Religion can`t unite one billion plus people even if you eliminate USA/UK/India/China from the map of the world. It is useless to blame others for the infighting within Islam be it for ethnicity, language, colour in addition to the religion itself.
Till the likes of you are there only allah can save poor Muslims from the schism created by the interpreters of Quran, you appear to be one of them.
Samar
#318 Posted by iron_mask on June 28, 2007 4:17:14 am
Masadi, zeemax, and echo-boom-boom have any of you guys read ``Children of Gebelaawi`` by Naguib Mahfouz. I have just managed to get this and I am about start reading it - so any insight into this book from your perspective would be helpful. Thanks a lot, in advance for the information.
#317 Posted by nutcasejob on June 28, 2007 4:12:33 am
zeemax bahijaan, you true musalmaan!you going red with anger on salman rushdie for that bad book. your wife right. now your kids also follow willing to you are path
#316 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 28, 2007 4:05:06 am
Tahmed32 - a chihuahua, sir, I hope you have found the right owner in Brazil, like this one has
#315 Posted by bjkumar on June 28, 2007 3:56:07 am
#306 Masadi sahib
If you indeed wish your write-ups to be published here - in order to further illuminate these dark halls of power with the glow of your incomparable light, I recommend holding back on comparisions to little Mexican canines while talking of chowk luminaires in the same breath.
#314 Posted by bjkumar on June 28, 2007 3:28:42 am
#312 Folio
Your perspective is unusually refreshing! It provides a whole new angle of thought into what becoming a sadhu may have been about all along!
I wonder if the maulvijis utilize an equivalent device - perhaps mian Urstruly could enlighten us. If they do, perhaps that would explain why Science got nowhere in the Muslim world - as Dr. Gill pointed out earlier. :(
#313 Posted by Chennai on June 28, 2007 3:25:36 am
Re: # 312
Well since he could not understand the joke I guess he must be from UP.........
Well since he could not understand the joke I guess he must be from UP.........
#312 Posted by Folio on June 28, 2007 3:17:30 am
Chennai,
Yes, of course. I have functional knowledge in Gujarati, Tamil and Hindi. Right now I am learning Bengali.
I was pokingfun at BJ & the erectile nozzile of the lota. ;-)
Yes, of course. I have functional knowledge in Gujarati, Tamil and Hindi. Right now I am learning Bengali.
I was pokingfun at BJ & the erectile nozzile of the lota. ;-)
#311 Posted by Chennai on June 28, 2007 2:59:37 am
Re: # 309
Yaar, My Hindi is indeed functional. I am not a UPwallah. ;-)
Thank God for his benevolance........An APwallah perhaps....:))
Yaar, My Hindi is indeed functional. I am not a UPwallah. ;-)
Thank God for his benevolance........An APwallah perhaps....:))
#310 Posted by bjkumar on June 28, 2007 2:41:49 am
#308
HP, what`s the matter?! Too lazy to write your own blog?
What empire?
#309 Posted by Folio on June 28, 2007 1:56:24 am
BJ & Chennai,
Yaar, My Hindi is indeed functional. I am not a UPwallah. ;-)
Yaar, My Hindi is indeed functional. I am not a UPwallah. ;-)
#308 Posted by HP on June 27, 2007 11:54:10 pm
Okay do you agree with this!
from a blog.
That Rushdie affair in full
I venture, readers, that you are as sick of this idiotic topic as I am. Should Salman have received the gong? Was it the right time? Must we always give in to these zealots? Doesn`t `Sir Salman` have a nice ring to it? Doesn`t he have a nice ring to him? Etc etc. So I will make this quick. I will admit, at the risk of being considered a fence-sitter, that I am almost as sick of the tawdry arguments against his knighthood as the endless arse-kissing and adulation in favor of it. The idea, for instance, that such an award is unsuitable for someone who has offended so many Muslims is surely correct, but only because to truly merit an award from the British Empire, one ought to have killed at least a few thousand of them as well as offending the rest.
It is true that Rushdie argued in favor of the war on Iraq, thus helping legitimize the murder of thousands of Muslims, but that doesn`t really cut it. If he really wants to earn that despicable award from that despicable, nasty, blood-drenched crew of gangsters of both ancient and modern regimes, he needs to strap on the pith helmet and get racing to Basra.
As it is, however, he has so far only written a complex work of fiction which understandably offended some Muslims, but not at all understandably also resulted in his living in fear of murder for about a decade. All because Khomeini was running into a bit of trouble after the budget-draining war with Iraq and the revelations about Iran-Contra. What`s more, Rushdie did spend a lot of time apologizing for the offense and even made a big deal about converting.
The trouble with `both sides` of this preposterous argument is that a) they both invest the honours system with legitimacy, and b) they either disappear up Salman`s cherubic backside or completely miss the point by waffling about legitimate offense. And the worst of it is the media coverage, which constantly references a `row` or a `furore`, as if there is one. As if a bit of empty fist-shaking from an Iranian ambassador, a few lonely crowds of right-wing Islamists in Pakistan, and a reference to possible suicide attacks by a politician working in the shaky Pakistani military government, constitutes a brewing clash of civilisations.
It doesn`t help either that most of Rushdie`s defenders are those who vocally favor imperialist crusades, concurrently write the most ignorant, bilious, piss-poor nonsense about Islam, and are actually moist in the crevices at seeing one of their number ennobled for services to the empire. Incidentally, one of his defenders today is a rather smug neocon provocateur named Mark Steyn. When the first bounty was offered on Rushdie`s head, Steyn was full of scorn for his defenders, for Rushdie`s fiction, for his left-wing politics and, strangely, for Rushdie`s physiognomy which he seemed to think had been improved in hiding. Rushdie had morphed from being a ``sinister Bombay exotic`` to being ``an amiable Julian Critchley type``, but still ``those unnerving eyes gave him away - more heavily hooded than ever before, rolled upwards with the upper half of the irises permanently invisible. It was like watching some sort of intermediate stage between life and death.`` Yes. Muslims. Faaaasands of em. Wait till you the whites of their eyes, lads.
from a blog.
That Rushdie affair in full
I venture, readers, that you are as sick of this idiotic topic as I am. Should Salman have received the gong? Was it the right time? Must we always give in to these zealots? Doesn`t `Sir Salman` have a nice ring to it? Doesn`t he have a nice ring to him? Etc etc. So I will make this quick. I will admit, at the risk of being considered a fence-sitter, that I am almost as sick of the tawdry arguments against his knighthood as the endless arse-kissing and adulation in favor of it. The idea, for instance, that such an award is unsuitable for someone who has offended so many Muslims is surely correct, but only because to truly merit an award from the British Empire, one ought to have killed at least a few thousand of them as well as offending the rest.
It is true that Rushdie argued in favor of the war on Iraq, thus helping legitimize the murder of thousands of Muslims, but that doesn`t really cut it. If he really wants to earn that despicable award from that despicable, nasty, blood-drenched crew of gangsters of both ancient and modern regimes, he needs to strap on the pith helmet and get racing to Basra.
As it is, however, he has so far only written a complex work of fiction which understandably offended some Muslims, but not at all understandably also resulted in his living in fear of murder for about a decade. All because Khomeini was running into a bit of trouble after the budget-draining war with Iraq and the revelations about Iran-Contra. What`s more, Rushdie did spend a lot of time apologizing for the offense and even made a big deal about converting.
The trouble with `both sides` of this preposterous argument is that a) they both invest the honours system with legitimacy, and b) they either disappear up Salman`s cherubic backside or completely miss the point by waffling about legitimate offense. And the worst of it is the media coverage, which constantly references a `row` or a `furore`, as if there is one. As if a bit of empty fist-shaking from an Iranian ambassador, a few lonely crowds of right-wing Islamists in Pakistan, and a reference to possible suicide attacks by a politician working in the shaky Pakistani military government, constitutes a brewing clash of civilisations.
It doesn`t help either that most of Rushdie`s defenders are those who vocally favor imperialist crusades, concurrently write the most ignorant, bilious, piss-poor nonsense about Islam, and are actually moist in the crevices at seeing one of their number ennobled for services to the empire. Incidentally, one of his defenders today is a rather smug neocon provocateur named Mark Steyn. When the first bounty was offered on Rushdie`s head, Steyn was full of scorn for his defenders, for Rushdie`s fiction, for his left-wing politics and, strangely, for Rushdie`s physiognomy which he seemed to think had been improved in hiding. Rushdie had morphed from being a ``sinister Bombay exotic`` to being ``an amiable Julian Critchley type``, but still ``those unnerving eyes gave him away - more heavily hooded than ever before, rolled upwards with the upper half of the irises permanently invisible. It was like watching some sort of intermediate stage between life and death.`` Yes. Muslims. Faaaasands of em. Wait till you the whites of their eyes, lads.
#307 Posted by masadi on June 27, 2007 10:58:59 pm
teshah writes <<< Do you mean Saudi Arabia with its petrodollars >>>
Which are half-short to begin with, thanks to US oil companies and the rest are spent on supporting more so the Western defense corporations and supporting a luxurious lifestyle of the ruling elites than any that is spent in the religious sector. Do a comparison of how much flows back to the West and how much goes the other way, and then you will note that they worship the West moreso than they worship Allah, even in their narrow definition of what constitutes Islam. The missing link between the alliance of the US elite and the Jihadists are the Saudi Elite, they are mere tools that function as a tweaking mechanism for the cat and mouse game with the Jihadists that the US elite have started in order to further their ulterior motives... Try to look beyond Fox News in your analysis...
Which are half-short to begin with, thanks to US oil companies and the rest are spent on supporting more so the Western defense corporations and supporting a luxurious lifestyle of the ruling elites than any that is spent in the religious sector. Do a comparison of how much flows back to the West and how much goes the other way, and then you will note that they worship the West moreso than they worship Allah, even in their narrow definition of what constitutes Islam. The missing link between the alliance of the US elite and the Jihadists are the Saudi Elite, they are mere tools that function as a tweaking mechanism for the cat and mouse game with the Jihadists that the US elite have started in order to further their ulterior motives... Try to look beyond Fox News in your analysis...
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