Yasser Latif Hamdani June 28, 2007
#129 Posted by iron_mask on June 29, 2007 7:40:24 am
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#130 Posted by Chennai on June 29, 2007 7:42:51 am
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Careful, Big brother Sanatani is watching.......and will shortly start posting.....:)))
Careful, Big brother Sanatani is watching.......and will shortly start posting.....:)))
#131 Posted by iron_mask on June 29, 2007 7:44:17 am
Re: # 130 santani will soon become santana and will be good hear from him after his last hooray at woodstock!
#132 Posted by jang on June 29, 2007 7:45:41 am
manto yar, india was for hindus with who muslims could not live. so if muslims leave india, its par for the course. ``jinnahs pakistan`` was a heaven for minorities...MILLIONS get thir houses burnt, raped, killed and get forced out, not just at birth but over several years. That to a normal (i.e. non-paki) would be a simple QED death of jinahs pakistan. that is all..
i am not arguing for greatness of secular hindu state, all i am pointing to is absurdity of this article which seems to have a selective passion for ahmedi plight....they were not even thrown out of pakistan, (only out of islam), whereas hidus and sikhs were already out of ummah so it was a simple case i presume.
and are you like frothing at mouth? why are you refering to me in 3rd person as a bigot in #32?
i am not arguing for greatness of secular hindu state, all i am pointing to is absurdity of this article which seems to have a selective passion for ahmedi plight....they were not even thrown out of pakistan, (only out of islam), whereas hidus and sikhs were already out of ummah so it was a simple case i presume.
and are you like frothing at mouth? why are you refering to me in 3rd person as a bigot in #32?
#133 Posted by mohar11 on June 29, 2007 7:48:08 am
Re: # 126
yep - that`s a typical paki refrain.... ``have you been to pakiland?``... for people like DM - who have gone to pakiland, the refrain is `` you won`t know from couple of visits``...
you don`t have to go to calcutta to know that it`s filled with filth... :) images and news coming out of pakiland is loud and clear...
yep - that`s a typical paki refrain.... ``have you been to pakiland?``... for people like DM - who have gone to pakiland, the refrain is `` you won`t know from couple of visits``...
you don`t have to go to calcutta to know that it`s filled with filth... :) images and news coming out of pakiland is loud and clear...
#134 Posted by Chennai on June 29, 2007 7:56:41 am
Re: # 131
U were warned......he also goes by the nick ``Chennai``......:))))
U were warned......he also goes by the nick ``Chennai``......:))))
#135 Posted by cliftonbridge on June 29, 2007 8:07:15 am
Guys in all honesty the plight of Indian muslims who are at this point ``worse than dalits in India`` by a recent BBC report is hardly likely to convince anyone of the pointlessness of the two nation theory.
Its not wrong to suggest that its possible India may break itself out of the shackles of chauvanism sooner than pakistan can break away from its own fascists. Till that happens though the TNT is king.
Its not wrong to suggest that its possible India may break itself out of the shackles of chauvanism sooner than pakistan can break away from its own fascists. Till that happens though the TNT is king.
#136 Posted by Zakkk on June 29, 2007 8:16:49 am
A thought occurred to me, is there any research into National Assembly proceedings in general and in particular in those days of the 1970`s?
#137 Posted by MantoLives on June 29, 2007 8:19:48 am
After having failed to show us how 70 million + of 100 million or even 5.5 of 30 million constitute a miniscule number.. chennai is calling me mad...
You have another Indian (samar1982) who is congratulating himself on the greatness of India... based on a misinterpretation of this article... and in clear contravention of logic... declaring the partition which Congress so vehemently insisted on as an ``absurd blunder``.
If industrialisation and economic progress in British India was any indication ... India would have always been manifold more industrialised than the region that constituted Pakistan.
I might not be happy with the state of affairs constitutionally but there is no question that god forbid had we been part of India... many of us would be nothing more than clerks at best...
#138 Posted by mohar11 on June 29, 2007 8:27:01 am
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[...Till that happens though the TNT is king...]
That`s fine with us hinuds... you can shove TNT up yours and keep it there as long as you want.... we are only too happy to get rid of the wannabe-bedouin riff-raff...
only person who says TNT is dead is YLH... so talk to him :)
[...Till that happens though the TNT is king...]
That`s fine with us hinuds... you can shove TNT up yours and keep it there as long as you want.... we are only too happy to get rid of the wannabe-bedouin riff-raff...
only person who says TNT is dead is YLH... so talk to him :)
#139 Posted by mohar11 on June 29, 2007 8:30:10 am
Re: # 137
[...many of us would be nothing more than clerks at best...]
Not even that... you personally would have been a janitor, no offense to janitors... hinuds would have dominated your mediocre a$$ so completely... :)
[...many of us would be nothing more than clerks at best...]
Not even that... you personally would have been a janitor, no offense to janitors... hinuds would have dominated your mediocre a$$ so completely... :)
#140 Posted by MantoLives on June 29, 2007 8:33:30 am
Since we are so good at counting absurdities....
What is absurd is that a half naked racist casteist hindu fascist bigot called Gandhi - who was till 1918 British India`s chief recruiter for the army- got up and introduced religion into politics... and made the whole issue of identity non-negotiable.. Despite this... the Muslim League bent over backwards to compromise with the Congress and the Congress kept on shooting down one reasonable proposal after another... and chose partition only as the last resort....
And yet Indians today can get up... and without shame or sense of honesty and fairness call partition absurd... it is precisely because the lessons learnt from the absurdity of the Congress Party`s positions and its follies and its blind majoritarian fascism have been forgotten ... that Jinnah`s Pakistan has been deadwood.... while to India`s credit... Dr. Ambedkar firmly stood against Gandhi and his medievalist fascist ideas ... that India atleast has a constitution that is not absurd...
In reality ofcourse... outside of that constitution by Dr. Ambedkar, India is mostly absurd.... a poverty stricken hell hole which claims to be a developed nation... and yet 800 million people in this developed and shining India don`t have access to toilets let alone clean drinking water.... and they have the nerve to call us absurd... brilliant.... India and those who champion India as some sort of utopia remind me of that scrawny freaky kid who has been given a headstart by his gora master.... and at the end of the first lap is only a few steps ahead and is turning around and proclaiming victory.
What is absurd is that a half naked racist casteist hindu fascist bigot called Gandhi - who was till 1918 British India`s chief recruiter for the army- got up and introduced religion into politics... and made the whole issue of identity non-negotiable.. Despite this... the Muslim League bent over backwards to compromise with the Congress and the Congress kept on shooting down one reasonable proposal after another... and chose partition only as the last resort....
And yet Indians today can get up... and without shame or sense of honesty and fairness call partition absurd... it is precisely because the lessons learnt from the absurdity of the Congress Party`s positions and its follies and its blind majoritarian fascism have been forgotten ... that Jinnah`s Pakistan has been deadwood.... while to India`s credit... Dr. Ambedkar firmly stood against Gandhi and his medievalist fascist ideas ... that India atleast has a constitution that is not absurd...
In reality ofcourse... outside of that constitution by Dr. Ambedkar, India is mostly absurd.... a poverty stricken hell hole which claims to be a developed nation... and yet 800 million people in this developed and shining India don`t have access to toilets let alone clean drinking water.... and they have the nerve to call us absurd... brilliant.... India and those who champion India as some sort of utopia remind me of that scrawny freaky kid who has been given a headstart by his gora master.... and at the end of the first lap is only a few steps ahead and is turning around and proclaiming victory.
#142 Posted by mohar11 on June 29, 2007 8:35:14 am
here is one more absurdity: Brave martial race warrior pure moslems are sh!t scared of coward baniya pagan hinud domination... :)
#143 Posted by MantoLives on June 29, 2007 8:38:45 am
Zakk,
Despite what Zeemax says.... the fact is that not only was the 1974 a violation of the principle on which Jinnah got Pakistan - that by numerical strength a permanent majority should not be allowed to bulldose a permanent minority.... but also a violation of the principle that Islam and Quran and Sunnah would be interpretted according to each Islamic sect`s own interpretation....
In other words the National Assembly went beyond its mandate in coming up with the ridiculous amendment which was merely the tyranny of the majority... and a violation of the basic founding principle of Pakistan.
There was nothing democratic or constitutional about it.
Despite what Zeemax says.... the fact is that not only was the 1974 a violation of the principle on which Jinnah got Pakistan - that by numerical strength a permanent majority should not be allowed to bulldose a permanent minority.... but also a violation of the principle that Islam and Quran and Sunnah would be interpretted according to each Islamic sect`s own interpretation....
In other words the National Assembly went beyond its mandate in coming up with the ridiculous amendment which was merely the tyranny of the majority... and a violation of the basic founding principle of Pakistan.
There was nothing democratic or constitutional about it.
#144 Posted by MantoLives on June 29, 2007 8:41:19 am
Mohar11...
On the contrary... thanks to partition... the absurd theory of martial races has been laid to rest and the brightest and the best of West Punjab ... especially the Potohar Plateau no longer choose army as a career as they did in British India...
On the contrary... thanks to partition... the absurd theory of martial races has been laid to rest and the brightest and the best of West Punjab ... especially the Potohar Plateau no longer choose army as a career as they did in British India...
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