Rafi Aamer July 12, 2007
#1 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 12, 2007 10:33:13 am
Chowk Staff,
Thanks for publishing the story. The description that you added (``Short Story``) should have been ``A Longish Short Story`` :)
Thanks for publishing the story. The description that you added (``Short Story``) should have been ``A Longish Short Story`` :)
#2 Posted by echoboom on July 12, 2007 10:43:01 am
..............``Zebras never become pets and tools like horses.”
Fiction aside, I wait for others to comment if this is a fact.
In my opinion, the land where zebras are found are horse itself is not a prized species..and maybe not even found!
There used to be a ``Zebra`` trade-mark ink in Pakistan...during the fountain-pen era. They had a Zebra driven delivery carriage.
We always wondered whether the stripes were real or marked by ``Zebra`` ink ..to advertise the power of the ink.
Now I think , it must have been a Zebra..because it would have been quite a task to do that...besides in sun , rain, & dust it was bound to fade.
.
I do not mind Zebras being Zebras refusing to be tamed...but they should not smoke hash
while accepting pet-food from their parents.
THe westoxicated scum is truly is a con artist....he wants to be a Zebra while making an ass of himself.
Fiction aside, I wait for others to comment if this is a fact.
In my opinion, the land where zebras are found are horse itself is not a prized species..and maybe not even found!
There used to be a ``Zebra`` trade-mark ink in Pakistan...during the fountain-pen era. They had a Zebra driven delivery carriage.
We always wondered whether the stripes were real or marked by ``Zebra`` ink ..to advertise the power of the ink.
Now I think , it must have been a Zebra..because it would have been quite a task to do that...besides in sun , rain, & dust it was bound to fade.
.
I do not mind Zebras being Zebras refusing to be tamed...but they should not smoke hash
while accepting pet-food from their parents.
THe westoxicated scum is truly is a con artist....he wants to be a Zebra while making an ass of himself.
#3 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 12, 2007 10:52:25 am
Re: # 2
Echoboom:
I really don`t care what names you call me but do you think that its a decent thing to do to give the ending of the story away?
Regards,
Rafi Aamer
Echoboom:
I really don`t care what names you call me but do you think that its a decent thing to do to give the ending of the story away?
Regards,
Rafi Aamer
#4 Posted by echoboom on July 12, 2007 11:02:02 am
rafi-aamer:
No bad intent there & you were NOT called any names...just a tinka in your darRhee.
Once looking at the length of the story, I immediately scrolled to see the answer. Human failing suppose.....
No one would have noticed if I gave away the ending..had you yourself had not brought it to everyones notice.
No bad intent there & you were NOT called any names...just a tinka in your darRhee.
Once looking at the length of the story, I immediately scrolled to see the answer. Human failing suppose.....
No one would have noticed if I gave away the ending..had you yourself had not brought it to everyones notice.
#5 Posted by drsohail on July 12, 2007 12:52:56 pm
dear rafi....a wonderful short/long story. your analogies of horse and zebra for traditional
and creative (non-traditional) people are wonderful. creative people have to pay a price to
be non-traditional. i hope you keep on writing essays and stories and not be discouraged
by the criticism...all the best...sohail
and creative (non-traditional) people are wonderful. creative people have to pay a price to
be non-traditional. i hope you keep on writing essays and stories and not be discouraged
by the criticism...all the best...sohail
#6 Posted by neembu on July 12, 2007 12:54:00 pm
A really well written story-one of the psychologically complex, well structured and emotionally present pieces to be published on Chowk. Almost perfect.
#7 Posted by neembu on July 12, 2007 12:54:56 pm
Re: # 6
correction: A really well written story-one of the most psychologically complex
correction: A really well written story-one of the most psychologically complex
#8 Posted by neembu on July 12, 2007 1:05:21 pm
also, aamer sahib, you ought to start shopping this around to literary mags and publications in the US.
#9 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 12, 2007 1:06:51 pm
Sohail and neembu,
Thanks. I am glad you liked it.
Rafi Aamer
Thanks. I am glad you liked it.
Rafi Aamer
#10 Posted by stuka on July 12, 2007 1:18:29 pm
Rafi Amer:
I`ll be honest. I enjoyed the story and was taken in by the end. Till I read Echobbom`s comment...
``
I do not mind Zebras being Zebras refusing to be tamed...but they should not smoke hash
while accepting pet-food from their parents. ``
You have to be intellectually honest and admit that Echoboom`s comment is right on the money and it does rob Shazi of sympathy.
I`ll be honest. I enjoyed the story and was taken in by the end. Till I read Echobbom`s comment...
``
I do not mind Zebras being Zebras refusing to be tamed...but they should not smoke hash
while accepting pet-food from their parents. ``
You have to be intellectually honest and admit that Echoboom`s comment is right on the money and it does rob Shazi of sympathy.
#11 Posted by MaulaJutt on July 12, 2007 1:22:03 pm
Rafi Sahib,
Excellent peace of writing. Ending was great good job and please keep it up.
Question so which character would you think was the zebra and who was the horse?
I would say shazi was the zebra and you were the horse? am I right.
Excellent peace of writing. Ending was great good job and please keep it up.
Question so which character would you think was the zebra and who was the horse?
I would say shazi was the zebra and you were the horse? am I right.
#12 Posted by Raw_Dust on July 12, 2007 1:22:12 pm
This is like Shahab meets Ashfaq meets Banu Qudsia meets AN Qasmi meets Munnu Bhai all rolled into one. I don`t like it. There is no story here, it is more like a cliched character sketch peppered with obligatory details of the narrator. But for chowk standards - it`s definitely one of the tops. Please, keep writing.
#13 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 12, 2007 1:35:14 pm
Re: # 11 by MaulaJutt
Thanks. And you are right.
Thanks. And you are right.
#14 Posted by neembu on July 12, 2007 1:41:41 pm
Re: # 12
Just for the sake of discussion, do you think this is really cliched? I found the nuances of the protectiveness of Shazi`s friends to be fairly accurate. Also, good discussion of addiction, depression and how these aspects are enabled by his fam who dont seem to know how to address Shazi`s issues. This enablement, codependency, whatever you want to call it, would be totally acceptable if Shazi did all the ``right`` things for his parents.
Just for the sake of discussion, do you think this is really cliched? I found the nuances of the protectiveness of Shazi`s friends to be fairly accurate. Also, good discussion of addiction, depression and how these aspects are enabled by his fam who dont seem to know how to address Shazi`s issues. This enablement, codependency, whatever you want to call it, would be totally acceptable if Shazi did all the ``right`` things for his parents.
#15 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 12, 2007 1:42:56 pm
Re: # 10 by stuka.
Thanks for your honest feedback.
Echoboom`s observation is based on an assumption, one which I had addressed in the first draft but then removed it. In a short story, which is already too long to be qualified as a short one, I didn`t have room enough to cover every possible base. The pet-food thing was one of those bases.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Rafi
Thanks for your honest feedback.
Echoboom`s observation is based on an assumption, one which I had addressed in the first draft but then removed it. In a short story, which is already too long to be qualified as a short one, I didn`t have room enough to cover every possible base. The pet-food thing was one of those bases.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Rafi
#16 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 12, 2007 1:46:20 pm
Re: # 12 by Raw Dust
Thanks for your feedback. This was my very first attempt at fiction and I intend to follow your advice of keep writing. Who knows, I might one day succeed to unroll and separate all the people you have mentioned. :)
Rafi
Thanks for your feedback. This was my very first attempt at fiction and I intend to follow your advice of keep writing. Who knows, I might one day succeed to unroll and separate all the people you have mentioned. :)
Rafi
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