What Lies Beneath: Dispatch from the Frontlines of the Burqa Brigades

Fawzia Afzal Khan July 5, 2007

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#585 Posted by hamidm2 on July 10, 2007 8:48:36 am

Re: # 581

kaal,

``India`s diversity is more on the surface. Your diversity is of real mindsets``

............ very true ...... even within my family i know some folks who seem to be from another planet - batagram (and you thought it was a fictional place !)

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#584 Posted by zeemax on July 10, 2007 8:44:39 am

#577 by hamidm2,

Hamidm, if you call these kids indoctrinated, how do you explain that nearly all parents sitting outside, when asked why didn`t they take their children home when the siege first began, said their kids were doing nothing wrong. Some even said they were not there to take away their children, but their bodies.

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#583 Posted by Chennai on July 10, 2007 8:43:16 am

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Dear hamidm2 ........I am not sure how well the Govt (Any Govt) is equipped to handle this........We need professional child physcologists for this.......not sure how many are there in Pakistan.......

Your suggestion on a fund is most welcome.....I second it.....We need a good number cruncher to work out the details.....I am generally wary of funds being sent to the sub-continent.........You know why......However the over riding issue is to get these kids back to a semblance of normalcy.......More suggestions are welcome.............

Prakash

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#582 Posted by tahmed32 on July 10, 2007 8:42:07 am

Urstruly 578 You always sounded hollow when berating the Pakistan army for doing anything to oppose the foreign ghoondas trying to take over the tribal areas. But never as hollow as now, when berating the Pakistan army for taking out these two-taka thugs in lal masjid dreaming of becoming khalifas of Pakistan.

With the distraction provided by these ghoondas taken care of, Pakistanis can get back to the struggle for democracy.

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#581 Posted by KaalChakra on July 10, 2007 8:39:19 am

hamdim

``as someone on bbc pointed out this morning, there are two pakistans.``

That`s a very old idea. The Atlantic Weekly archives might hold some very good articles on that theme. In Pakistan the question has always been (as clear to outsiders) which of the two very different Pakistans will pull the other closer to itself (hopefully, avoiding bloodshed).

India`s diversity is more on the surface. Your diversity is of real mindsets.

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#580 Posted by rf786 on July 10, 2007 8:33:51 am

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{Well all the men fought to the last bullet, just as they had promised. Rashid Ghazi was wounded but stsill didn`t accept offer to surrender and was killed}

On the contrary, Rashid Pajee wanted to surrender but was shot by his own militants. So u r partly right, he was killed but by his own people.

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#579 Posted by rf786 on July 10, 2007 8:30:39 am

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Pee Wax

{Whatever girls remain now, will carry on the movement}

Are u talking about these girls:

Lal Masjid: 50 women, one dozen children rescued ISLAMABAD, July 10: Security forces rescued about 50 women and nearly a dozen boys from the basement of the Lal Masjid complex as Operation Silence completed eight hours, private TV channels reported. A teenage boy came running out one of the 70 rooms at the basement and enabled troops to rescue the trapped women and children in the rooms at the basement. No resistance or exchange of fire took place is this rescue operation, reports said. Among those rescued were Umme Hassan, wife of captured Maulana Abdul Aziz, and their daughter, the TV reported. (Posted @ 14:22 PST)

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#578 Posted by Urstruly on July 10, 2007 8:28:42 am

NA-PAK FOUJ KO SALAM, ON THEIR LATEST CONQUEST

This time they have conquered a school in Islamabad

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#577 Posted by hamidm2 on July 10, 2007 8:24:45 am

Re: # 571

chennai,

..... you are right ..... the best thing the government can do for these kids is to take them away from their parents and send them to regular schools where they can get a fair shot at recovery ........ if somone sets up a fund for this purpose i would be willing to pay the expenses for a couple of these unfortunate kids ........

...... thanks for your concern ......... ideologues like philosopher and zeemax are devoid of humanity and like their messiah, abdul rashid ghazi, they love death more than most people love life ...........

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#576 Posted by zeemax on July 10, 2007 8:23:17 am

Complete post of echoboom here.

I wonder why echo is being filtered in the first place.

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#575 Posted by zeemax on July 10, 2007 8:19:25 am

Missed that in #572

........45.54 %
...... 50.05 %
. ....... 4.4 %

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#574 Posted by echoboom on July 10, 2007 8:18:04 am

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#573 Posted by PewResearch on July 10, 2007 8:12:59 am

Re: # 565 Zeemax

``...Whatever girls remain now, will carry on the movement. ...``
Lovely. So, we can expect many more examples of the Lal Masjid episode?

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#572 Posted by zeemax on July 10, 2007 8:12:08 am

echoboom

Geo.tv Vote on 10th July, 2007 ....6.pm

Geo Vote

and this is TV...which makes it skewed because of the Kanjaroon factor.. URDU newspaper vote would be more close to the ``ground-realities``

InshaAllah! the days of the Kanjaroons are numbered... It is aperfect replay of events leading to the great revolution in Iran.

The Kanjaroons still have time to keep their visas uptodate...better still if they leave now they will not be looking for a country to grant them asylum even in their graveyards..like The ShaWH of ``Persia``

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#571 Posted by Chennai on July 10, 2007 8:11:57 am

Re: # 566
566 by philosopher :
Did I say that..........selective reading I guess.......

These kids must be counselled asap......In Pakistan only...... As a person who is in early learning ability/disabilties I know the trauma these innocent kids are undergoing..........

My suggestion was to help & support these kids.......If you want to take a cynical view go ahead...........

Prakash

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#570 Posted by hamidm2 on July 10, 2007 8:08:08 am

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ylh,

..... when we called my in-laws in f/8 at 7 this morning they had no idea what was going on! ............ and here we were glued to geo and ary and worried sick about what was going on ......... the double pane windows must work !

........ i partly agree with your statement that ``Ayaz Amir and Imran Khan were right in so much when they said that there is no talibanisation possible in Pakistani society`` ......... it is true in the punjab, sindh and most of baluchistan, but the frontier (and fata) is another story ....... as someone on bbc pointed out this morning, there are two pakistans - let`s hope your pakistan wins .............

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