Fawzia Afzal Khan July 5, 2007
#552 Posted by MantoLives on July 10, 2007 6:03:31 am
Re: # 551
Some are more dishonest than others...
Waisay in case of this one I think the emphasis was too much. The person is question is too stupid to be a crook... just someone who is dishonest and stupid.... so how about dishonest Stupid.
Some are more dishonest than others...
Waisay in case of this one I think the emphasis was too much. The person is question is too stupid to be a crook... just someone who is dishonest and stupid.... so how about dishonest Stupid.
#553 Posted by Chennai on July 10, 2007 6:06:50 am
Re: # 552
Thanks for clarifying...Take care:)
Prakash
Thanks for clarifying...Take care:)
Prakash
#550 Posted by mohar11 on July 10, 2007 5:49:52 am
I heard you pakis whacked couple more chinese nationals in FATA or somewhere... way to go... :)
#548 Posted by MantoLives on July 10, 2007 5:37:07 am
nb,
Perhaps instead of being a dishonest crook, you should see the context in which I brought up Gandhi .... you would not have to ask that question.
I have no desire to talk of something as disgusting as Gandhi... but if people on your side will harp back to partition and Jinnah, I am well within my rights to point out the obvious - Gandhi`s connection to Islamic fundamentalists which is a matter of historical record.
Supposedly I should discuss serious issues with real impact on our immediate present with idiots like Jayp, harish_hyd and yourself the genius. One wonders what world you live in?
JayP,
Why would Jehadis want to drive into pictures of Gandhi- their greatest benefactor in history and the first of their kind- unless its the moth to flame logic?
Perhaps instead of being a dishonest crook, you should see the context in which I brought up Gandhi .... you would not have to ask that question.
I have no desire to talk of something as disgusting as Gandhi... but if people on your side will harp back to partition and Jinnah, I am well within my rights to point out the obvious - Gandhi`s connection to Islamic fundamentalists which is a matter of historical record.
Supposedly I should discuss serious issues with real impact on our immediate present with idiots like Jayp, harish_hyd and yourself the genius. One wonders what world you live in?
JayP,
Why would Jehadis want to drive into pictures of Gandhi- their greatest benefactor in history and the first of their kind- unless its the moth to flame logic?
#545 Posted by harish_hyd on July 10, 2007 3:21:19 am
#544 by jayp
They can paint a picture of Gandhi on the concrete and tell them that they are crashing into gandhi to kill him. Even YLH might be ready for this job.
Hilarious!!!!
They can paint a picture of Gandhi on the concrete and tell them that they are crashing into gandhi to kill him. Even YLH might be ready for this job.
Hilarious!!!!
#544 Posted by jayp on July 10, 2007 3:13:43 am
Today is a sad day for the rest of the world. The lal majid saga is over, and none of the jihadis have been killed, they did not get their passport to heaven. These jihadis seek death, shehdad, and now they will be pushed into kashmir, afghanistan and the like to get their passports. Killings in other countries will shoot up as the hundred odd death seeking jihadis are sent out side pakistan.
Here is an option for the jihadis. They can be used as crash test dummies for car tests. A few can be sent India where crash test for the Tata cars are underway. They can paint a picture of Gandhi on the concrete and tell them that they are crashing into gandhi to kill him. Even YLH might be ready for this job.
Please contact tata.com for more information
Here is an option for the jihadis. They can be used as crash test dummies for car tests. A few can be sent India where crash test for the Tata cars are underway. They can paint a picture of Gandhi on the concrete and tell them that they are crashing into gandhi to kill him. Even YLH might be ready for this job.
Please contact tata.com for more information
#543 Posted by echoboom on July 10, 2007 3:13:28 am
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#542 Posted by rf786 on July 10, 2007 3:02:32 am
Pee Wax
Dawn reporting latest your army leader (Mdm Umme Hassan) RESCUED:
Lal Masjid: 50 women, one dozen children rescued ISLAMABAD, July 10: Security forces rescued about 50 women and nearly a dozen boys from the basement of the Lal Masjid complex as Operation Silence completed eight hours, private TV channels reported. A teenage boy came running out one of the 70 rooms at the basement and enabled troops to rescue the trapped women and children in the rooms at the basement. No resistance or exchange of fire took place is this rescue operation, reports said. Among those rescued were Umme Hassan, wife of captured Maulana Abdul Aziz, and their daughter, the TV reported. (Posted @ 14:22 PST)
#541 Posted by jayp on July 10, 2007 2:43:10 am
Pak Economy,
In yesterdays Dawn, in business section, there is a set of shocking numbers.
Pakistan is a major exporter of textiles, but only 15 percent of local production is used in pakistan while the numbers are 70 percent for china and 60 percent for India.
So what do pakistanis wear, they wear second hand clothes, 24 million tons were imported last year while india imported only 27,000 tons.
I find it hard to believe, if only some one in pakistan had given sewing machines to the women of pakistan. That would have greatly created employment in pakistan and stimulated the economy. No one in pakistan is interested in improvements, the YLH of pakistan are wearing second hand suits and posting pictures on chowk.
Pakistans is a classic case, the jihadic mind cannot see the reality out there and address it, it is always due to some one else, jiahdism in pakistan is due to gandhi, military rule is due to zia, terrorism is due to americans.
When will an educated pakistani take responsibility and do something to change it/
In yesterdays Dawn, in business section, there is a set of shocking numbers.
Pakistan is a major exporter of textiles, but only 15 percent of local production is used in pakistan while the numbers are 70 percent for china and 60 percent for India.
So what do pakistanis wear, they wear second hand clothes, 24 million tons were imported last year while india imported only 27,000 tons.
I find it hard to believe, if only some one in pakistan had given sewing machines to the women of pakistan. That would have greatly created employment in pakistan and stimulated the economy. No one in pakistan is interested in improvements, the YLH of pakistan are wearing second hand suits and posting pictures on chowk.
Pakistans is a classic case, the jihadic mind cannot see the reality out there and address it, it is always due to some one else, jiahdism in pakistan is due to gandhi, military rule is due to zia, terrorism is due to americans.
When will an educated pakistani take responsibility and do something to change it/
#540 Posted by jayp on July 10, 2007 2:10:51 am
YLH 451,
Thanks for supporting the pictures by zeemax. You have confirmed what I always suspected, that your such strong defense of everything Jinnah islamic will only lead to the defense of zeemax pictures.
Here you have departed from your standard line, islam is good, muslims are bad. Now it appears islam is good, pakistanis are good. Pathetic is the only word to describe you.
Thanks for supporting the pictures by zeemax. You have confirmed what I always suspected, that your such strong defense of everything Jinnah islamic will only lead to the defense of zeemax pictures.
Here you have departed from your standard line, islam is good, muslims are bad. Now it appears islam is good, pakistanis are good. Pathetic is the only word to describe you.
#549 Posted by MantoLives on July 10, 2007 5:40:25 am
Re: # 540
Only a psycho would describe the contents of 451 in that manner... but then we already know that about you thackerey.
Only a psycho would describe the contents of 451 in that manner... but then we already know that about you thackerey.
#539 Posted by masadi on July 10, 2007 12:06:39 am
Okhla writes
<<< Remember the hiding you got at faithfreedom.org ???
Remember the unceremonious manner in which you were deported from the US ???
Remember how you were kicked out of the Pakistani college you joined???
Remember how all your ``articles`` have been comprehensively rejected by Chowk editors???
Do you realise that even lulu.com will not permit you to self-publish any more ???? >>>
Idiot, the faithfreedom people were so afraid that they censored the ``debate`` part with me and have conveniently got rid of the major debate in which Ali Senile and his 40 e-coli received the drubbing of their lives
I was never deported from the US, left of my own free volition
I was not kicked out of the Pakistani college, I told them I wouldn`t show up for work till they handed me my contract and released my pay, the director of that peon creating factory didn`t like my ``mini strike`` though that was an excuse to cover up his larger insecurities that of my busting the mythology of the land of ``milk and honey`` that he was indoctrinating his students with and pusing the World Bank agenda.
My articles have not been ``rejected`` by Chowk editors like Gill, they have been censored. I have reporduced them on my ilog and people can judge their calibre compared to the other articles published here
Lulu does not stop anyone from publishing, another lie you have invented.
Since you are surrounded by lies, supported by dictators and murderers, it is little wonder that when threatened you will relapse into lying and invented Ad hominems to discredit your opponent who happens to have valid argument compared to your horse sh**.
<<< Remember the hiding you got at faithfreedom.org ???
Remember the unceremonious manner in which you were deported from the US ???
Remember how you were kicked out of the Pakistani college you joined???
Remember how all your ``articles`` have been comprehensively rejected by Chowk editors???
Do you realise that even lulu.com will not permit you to self-publish any more ???? >>>
Idiot, the faithfreedom people were so afraid that they censored the ``debate`` part with me and have conveniently got rid of the major debate in which Ali Senile and his 40 e-coli received the drubbing of their lives
I was never deported from the US, left of my own free volition
I was not kicked out of the Pakistani college, I told them I wouldn`t show up for work till they handed me my contract and released my pay, the director of that peon creating factory didn`t like my ``mini strike`` though that was an excuse to cover up his larger insecurities that of my busting the mythology of the land of ``milk and honey`` that he was indoctrinating his students with and pusing the World Bank agenda.
My articles have not been ``rejected`` by Chowk editors like Gill, they have been censored. I have reporduced them on my ilog and people can judge their calibre compared to the other articles published here
Lulu does not stop anyone from publishing, another lie you have invented.
Since you are surrounded by lies, supported by dictators and murderers, it is little wonder that when threatened you will relapse into lying and invented Ad hominems to discredit your opponent who happens to have valid argument compared to your horse sh**.
#537 Posted by masadi on July 9, 2007 11:31:06 pm
Allow me to reporduce this classic from echo:
<<<<
Philosopher/masadi/zeemax & fellow muslims:
Humped2 & his tsmithers32 have become kind of subdued & forlorn.....no good for CHOWK`s reputation.
Can you please say something about the ones on the other side of their leashes so
that the Cantonment canines start yelping & whimpering again.
>>>>>>

Humped Dumped 2 and his Chihuahua R2D(T)32
Enjoy!
<<<<
Philosopher/masadi/zeemax & fellow muslims:
Humped2 & his tsmithers32 have become kind of subdued & forlorn.....no good for CHOWK`s reputation.
Can you please say something about the ones on the other side of their leashes so
that the Cantonment canines start yelping & whimpering again.
>>>>>>

Humped Dumped 2 and his Chihuahua R2D(T)32
Enjoy!
#538 Posted by okhla99 on July 9, 2007 11:54:51 pm
Re: # 537
Foolish MAsadi,
In your mad rantings, you have left the topic far behind. But then irrelevant, incoherent rantings have always been your trademark.....
Remember the hiding you got at faithfreedom.org ???
Remember the unceremonious manner in which you were deported from the US ???
Remember how you were kicked out of the Pakistani college you joined???
Remember how all your ``articles`` have been comprehensively rejected by Chowk editors???
Do you realise that even lulu.com will not permit you to self-publish any more ????
But stiil, you go on merrily, attacking ration and reason, defending the indefensible, sowing hatred instead of tolerance......
Foolish MAsadi,
In your mad rantings, you have left the topic far behind. But then irrelevant, incoherent rantings have always been your trademark.....
Remember the hiding you got at faithfreedom.org ???
Remember the unceremonious manner in which you were deported from the US ???
Remember how you were kicked out of the Pakistani college you joined???
Remember how all your ``articles`` have been comprehensively rejected by Chowk editors???
Do you realise that even lulu.com will not permit you to self-publish any more ????
But stiil, you go on merrily, attacking ration and reason, defending the indefensible, sowing hatred instead of tolerance......
#534 Posted by bjkumar on July 9, 2007 8:50:43 pm
The ``Third`` class compartment - which exists no more, was once upon a time fondly called ``Gandhi class``! :)
#533 Posted by PewResearch on July 9, 2007 8:21:04 pm
Dear Pakis:
Take a moment to reflect upon this Op/Ed piece by Tom Friedman of The New York Times
At a Theater Near You ...
by Thomas L. Friedman
Reposted from The NYTimes
I knew something was up when I couldn`t get a cab. Then there were sirens and helicopters whirring overhead. I stopped a passerby to ask what was going on. He said something about a car bomb outside a disco six blocks from my hotel. A few hours later, I finally found a taxi. The driver warned me that it was nearly impossible to get across town. Another bomb had been uncovered in a car park. Next day, more news: a suicide bomber had driven his Jeep into an airport and jumped out, his body on fire, screaming ``Allah! Allah!``
Where was I? Baghdad? Kabul? Tel Aviv? No, I was in England. But it could have been anywhere. The Middle East: Now playing at a theater near you.
But this movie gets more confusing every time you watch it. When you watched it on 9/11 it was about America`s presence in the heart of Arabia. And when you watched it on 7/7 it was about unemployed and alienated Muslim youth in Britain. In Jordan not long ago it was about a wedding at a Western hotel. In Morocco recently it was about an Internet cafe. And two days ago in Yemen it was about seven Spanish tourists who were killed when a suicide bomber drove into them at a local tourist site. Wasn`t Spain the country that quit Iraq to get its people out of the line of fire?
Because these incidents are scattered, we`re growing numb to just how crazy they are. In the past few years, hundreds of Muslims have committed suicide amid innocent civilians — without making any concrete political demands and without generating any vigorous, sustained condemnation in the Muslim world.
Two trends are at work here: humiliation and atomization. Islam`s self-identity is that it is the most perfect and complete expression of God`s monotheistic message, and the Koran is God`s last and most perfect word. To put it another way, young Muslims are raised on the view that Islam is God 3.0. Christianity is God 2.0. Judaism is God 1.0. And Hinduism and all others are God 0.0.
One of the factors driving Muslim males, particularly educated ones, into these acts of extreme, expressive violence is that while they were taught that they have the most perfect and complete operating system, every day they`re confronted with the reality that people living by God 2.0., God 1.0 and God 0.0 are generally living much more prosperously, powerfully and democratically than those living under Islam. This creates a real dissonance and humiliation. How could this be? Who did this to us? The Crusaders! The Jews! The West! It can never be something that they failed to learn, adapt to or build. This humiliation produces a lashing out.
In the old days, you needed a terror infrastructure with bases in Beirut or Afghanistan to lash out in a big way. Not anymore. Now all you need is the virtual Afghanistan — the Internet and a few cellphones — to recruit, indoctrinate, plan and execute. Hence, the atomization — little terror groups sprouting everywhere. Everyone now has a starter kit.
Gen. Michael Hayden, the C.I.A. director, recently noted in a speech that during the cold war ``the enemy was easy to find, but hard to finish,`` because the Soviet Union was so big and powerful. ``Intelligence was important`` back then, he added, ``but it was overshadowed by the need for sheer firepower.``
In today`s war against terrorist groups, said General Hayden, ``it`s just the opposite. Our enemy is easy to finish, but hard to find. Today, we are looking for individuals or small groups planning suicide bombings, running violent Jihadist Web sites, sending foreign fighters into Iraq.``
I`d go one step further. The Soviet Union was easy to find and hard to kill, but once it died, it was dead forever. It had no regenerative power because it had no popular base. The terrorists of Iraq or London are hard to find, easy to kill, but very difficult to eliminate. New recruits just keep sprouting.
Of course, not all Muslims are terrorists. But it`s been widely noted that virtually all suicide terrorists today are Muslims. Angry Norwegians aren`t doing this — nor are starving Africans or unemployed Mexicans. Muslims have got to understand that a death cult has taken root in the bosom of their religion, feeding off it like a cancerous tumor.
This cancer is erasing basic norms of civilization. In Iraq, we`ve seen suicide bombers blow up funerals and schools. In England, seven out of the eight people detained in the latest plot are Muslim doctors or medical students. Doctors plotting mass murder? Could that be? If Muslim leaders don`t remove this cancer — and only they can — it will spread, tainting innocent Muslims and poisoning their relations with each other and the world.
Take a moment to reflect upon this Op/Ed piece by Tom Friedman of The New York Times
At a Theater Near You ...
by Thomas L. Friedman
Reposted from The NYTimes
I knew something was up when I couldn`t get a cab. Then there were sirens and helicopters whirring overhead. I stopped a passerby to ask what was going on. He said something about a car bomb outside a disco six blocks from my hotel. A few hours later, I finally found a taxi. The driver warned me that it was nearly impossible to get across town. Another bomb had been uncovered in a car park. Next day, more news: a suicide bomber had driven his Jeep into an airport and jumped out, his body on fire, screaming ``Allah! Allah!``
Where was I? Baghdad? Kabul? Tel Aviv? No, I was in England. But it could have been anywhere. The Middle East: Now playing at a theater near you.
But this movie gets more confusing every time you watch it. When you watched it on 9/11 it was about America`s presence in the heart of Arabia. And when you watched it on 7/7 it was about unemployed and alienated Muslim youth in Britain. In Jordan not long ago it was about a wedding at a Western hotel. In Morocco recently it was about an Internet cafe. And two days ago in Yemen it was about seven Spanish tourists who were killed when a suicide bomber drove into them at a local tourist site. Wasn`t Spain the country that quit Iraq to get its people out of the line of fire?
Because these incidents are scattered, we`re growing numb to just how crazy they are. In the past few years, hundreds of Muslims have committed suicide amid innocent civilians — without making any concrete political demands and without generating any vigorous, sustained condemnation in the Muslim world.
Two trends are at work here: humiliation and atomization. Islam`s self-identity is that it is the most perfect and complete expression of God`s monotheistic message, and the Koran is God`s last and most perfect word. To put it another way, young Muslims are raised on the view that Islam is God 3.0. Christianity is God 2.0. Judaism is God 1.0. And Hinduism and all others are God 0.0.
One of the factors driving Muslim males, particularly educated ones, into these acts of extreme, expressive violence is that while they were taught that they have the most perfect and complete operating system, every day they`re confronted with the reality that people living by God 2.0., God 1.0 and God 0.0 are generally living much more prosperously, powerfully and democratically than those living under Islam. This creates a real dissonance and humiliation. How could this be? Who did this to us? The Crusaders! The Jews! The West! It can never be something that they failed to learn, adapt to or build. This humiliation produces a lashing out.
In the old days, you needed a terror infrastructure with bases in Beirut or Afghanistan to lash out in a big way. Not anymore. Now all you need is the virtual Afghanistan — the Internet and a few cellphones — to recruit, indoctrinate, plan and execute. Hence, the atomization — little terror groups sprouting everywhere. Everyone now has a starter kit.
Gen. Michael Hayden, the C.I.A. director, recently noted in a speech that during the cold war ``the enemy was easy to find, but hard to finish,`` because the Soviet Union was so big and powerful. ``Intelligence was important`` back then, he added, ``but it was overshadowed by the need for sheer firepower.``
In today`s war against terrorist groups, said General Hayden, ``it`s just the opposite. Our enemy is easy to finish, but hard to find. Today, we are looking for individuals or small groups planning suicide bombings, running violent Jihadist Web sites, sending foreign fighters into Iraq.``
I`d go one step further. The Soviet Union was easy to find and hard to kill, but once it died, it was dead forever. It had no regenerative power because it had no popular base. The terrorists of Iraq or London are hard to find, easy to kill, but very difficult to eliminate. New recruits just keep sprouting.
Of course, not all Muslims are terrorists. But it`s been widely noted that virtually all suicide terrorists today are Muslims. Angry Norwegians aren`t doing this — nor are starving Africans or unemployed Mexicans. Muslims have got to understand that a death cult has taken root in the bosom of their religion, feeding off it like a cancerous tumor.
This cancer is erasing basic norms of civilization. In Iraq, we`ve seen suicide bombers blow up funerals and schools. In England, seven out of the eight people detained in the latest plot are Muslim doctors or medical students. Doctors plotting mass murder? Could that be? If Muslim leaders don`t remove this cancer — and only they can — it will spread, tainting innocent Muslims and poisoning their relations with each other and the world.
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