Preventing More Lal Masjids
Pervez Hoodbhoy July 10, 2007
#700 Posted by philosopher on July 15, 2007 3:34:52 pm
Re: # 699
karishna
((((What can I say. Even if you were born into this cult, if you were more intelligent, you would have figured it out. But you don`t have what it takes.)))))
Hi guys....i tell what it takes to figure it out what karishna is suggeting......
A hot cup of gao-muttar in the morning before breakfast(remeber it must be after morning walk...dont shake that muttar too much in your stomach.....coz gao ji doesnt want you to piss it in the `devta toilet bowl ji`) (shhhhh...karishna has told me a secret.....there is fight going on between gao ji and baghwaan toilet bowl ji on the issue of muttar.......even they have blamed `linga` devta as well. but `linga` devta was found sleeping 24/7 so it is being assumed in the circle of bhagwaans that....this mess is being created by the paki or muslim linga terrorists......Gao knows best)
Three spoon hot and fresh Goaber with bread. one cup of gao-muttar tea. Always smell the smoke rising from the goaber and muttar and try to find,deep and multi layred spirtual truth. feel the spirtual mystry sorrounding the smoke of muttar.And don`t forget to go to zoo to have `darashan` of all the gods.
Eat gao-goaber........drink muttar......be hindu.
karishna
((((What can I say. Even if you were born into this cult, if you were more intelligent, you would have figured it out. But you don`t have what it takes.)))))
Hi guys....i tell what it takes to figure it out what karishna is suggeting......
A hot cup of gao-muttar in the morning before breakfast(remeber it must be after morning walk...dont shake that muttar too much in your stomach.....coz gao ji doesnt want you to piss it in the `devta toilet bowl ji`) (shhhhh...karishna has told me a secret.....there is fight going on between gao ji and baghwaan toilet bowl ji on the issue of muttar.......even they have blamed `linga` devta as well. but `linga` devta was found sleeping 24/7 so it is being assumed in the circle of bhagwaans that....this mess is being created by the paki or muslim linga terrorists......Gao knows best)
Three spoon hot and fresh Goaber with bread. one cup of gao-muttar tea. Always smell the smoke rising from the goaber and muttar and try to find,deep and multi layred spirtual truth. feel the spirtual mystry sorrounding the smoke of muttar.And don`t forget to go to zoo to have `darashan` of all the gods.
Eat gao-goaber........drink muttar......be hindu.
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#699 Posted by krishna_abcd on July 15, 2007 3:13:15 pm
#696 by haideri
It hard to tell from one or two posts sometimes. But now it is clear. You are an uninformed islamic idiot. That`s called a tautology.
What`s the points discussing or arguing anything with you?
By the way. There was no winged creature in the cave. The old man made it all up. And he ruled over you guys and screwed around as he wanted, whoever he wanted and did pretty much what he wanted.
I feel sorry for you. And no - it`s not the hatred for the ``other`` religion. I like Parsees, for example, and Jews, and most Christians. And I respect Christ. He was a good man. No son of god, but a good man.
What can I say. Even if you were born into this cult, if you were more intelligent, you would have figured it out. But you don`t have what it takes.
Goodbye.
It hard to tell from one or two posts sometimes. But now it is clear. You are an uninformed islamic idiot. That`s called a tautology.
What`s the points discussing or arguing anything with you?
By the way. There was no winged creature in the cave. The old man made it all up. And he ruled over you guys and screwed around as he wanted, whoever he wanted and did pretty much what he wanted.
I feel sorry for you. And no - it`s not the hatred for the ``other`` religion. I like Parsees, for example, and Jews, and most Christians. And I respect Christ. He was a good man. No son of god, but a good man.
What can I say. Even if you were born into this cult, if you were more intelligent, you would have figured it out. But you don`t have what it takes.
Goodbye.
#698 Posted by haideri on July 15, 2007 3:12:12 pm
Re: # 695
Who screwed the peace loving Buddhist after the fall of Gupta?
It were Hindus who kicked them out and confined them to the border areas.
Why were peace loving Buddhist persecuted?
They refused to accept Brahma and Vedas bullshit
Who screwed the peace loving Buddhist after the fall of Gupta?
It were Hindus who kicked them out and confined them to the border areas.
Why were peace loving Buddhist persecuted?
They refused to accept Brahma and Vedas bullshit
#697 Posted by philosopher on July 15, 2007 3:01:03 pm
Echo Dada says..;
#686 by echoboom on July 15, 2007 12:08pm PT
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July 15, 2007
Krishna-abcd:
Qur`aan instructs us to edit those who even dare to even imply to edit the Qura,an -Al-Hakeem. Did anybody tell you that the plight of muslims lie in NOT following the clear cut instruction by the Quraa-Al-Majeed--including this injunction.
Never let Mullato tsmithers32 & other assorted & motrley Kanjaroons keep you in the dark. An open , chivalrous, and bold enemy is your best friend....and their is no shortage of those in your neighborhood.
Never Never ever forget that.))))))
(((((Qur`aan instructs us to edit those who even dare to even imply to edit the Qura,an -Al-Hakeem. Did anybody tell you that the plight of muslims lie in NOT following the clear cut instruction by the Quraa-Al-Majeed--including this injunction)))))
Echo/zee
A couple of weeks ago i wont accept it.....and i have always opposed zeemax on the issue of the capital punishment of apostates.....Now I am for the merciless beheading of apostates and any `oon` who tries to dilute the message of Islam.
#686 by echoboom on July 15, 2007 12:08pm PT
((((((#686Preventing More Lal Masjids on
July 15, 2007
Krishna-abcd:
Qur`aan instructs us to edit those who even dare to even imply to edit the Qura,an -Al-Hakeem. Did anybody tell you that the plight of muslims lie in NOT following the clear cut instruction by the Quraa-Al-Majeed--including this injunction.
Never let Mullato tsmithers32 & other assorted & motrley Kanjaroons keep you in the dark. An open , chivalrous, and bold enemy is your best friend....and their is no shortage of those in your neighborhood.
Never Never ever forget that.))))))
(((((Qur`aan instructs us to edit those who even dare to even imply to edit the Qura,an -Al-Hakeem. Did anybody tell you that the plight of muslims lie in NOT following the clear cut instruction by the Quraa-Al-Majeed--including this injunction)))))
Echo/zee
A couple of weeks ago i wont accept it.....and i have always opposed zeemax on the issue of the capital punishment of apostates.....Now I am for the merciless beheading of apostates and any `oon` who tries to dilute the message of Islam.
#696 Posted by haideri on July 15, 2007 2:57:00 pm
Re: # 684
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!...I have worked in India with UNDP and know your culture better than you can ever imagine. Brahmin`s don`t even let Dalits come into their kitchen or touch their food. According to one of my Hindu Indian friends ``Our Gods even don`t speak the truth...and you expect us to speak the truth`` then he explained the ``Makhan`` stealing episode.
haideri
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!...I have worked in India with UNDP and know your culture better than you can ever imagine. Brahmin`s don`t even let Dalits come into their kitchen or touch their food. According to one of my Hindu Indian friends ``Our Gods even don`t speak the truth...and you expect us to speak the truth`` then he explained the ``Makhan`` stealing episode.
haideri
#695 Posted by krishna_abcd on July 15, 2007 2:48:50 pm
#691 by Salim_Chauhan
[#685 by krishna_abcd on July 15, 2007 11:57am PT
{``.A case in point - Malayasia.
For centuries, it was a Hindu/Buddhist country with gentle and nonviolent practices. THEN Islam came in. Today death threats for apostasy, mob lynching etc. are commonplace in Malayasia. ...``}
O Enlightened One!
Please tell us when the armies of the Muslims conquered Malaysia and Indonesia and whether these invaders were Ottoman Turks or Indian Mughals - maybe they were Tartars who came from Crimea or the Muslims who came from Al Andalus. So much for your constant crap about forcible conversion of Hindus, Buddhists, and others. ]
Let me enlighten you.
You are trying to change the issue. My point was not that ``Islam is bad for a society IF that society was conquered/converted``. My point was that ``Islam is ALWAYS bad for a society, PERIOD``.
Do you get the difference? I`m sure you do.
But since you brought up a new point, let me educate you about this one too.
About the forcible conversion issue. As I have said in many posts before, in any Muslim-ruled land, the conversions take place due to gradual and inexorable pressure exerted upon the non-Mulsim population.
Islam has many instruments directed to this very end.
One is economic pressure - in the for of grossly unequal taxation. Poor peasants succumb more easily than the rest. For them, it is the difference between starvation, jail, flogging, or conversion and immediate relief. (ask me, I`ll give examples). Also, non-Muslims are systematically discriminated against in government and related jobs (Ask me, I`ll give examples). Many people convert just to make their life easier.
Second, there is the constant stigma and ostracization by the Islamic society of the non-Mulsims. The method to accomplish this is listed out in great detail in your manual. If you are a non-Mulsim, your women will never be as safe as the Muslims. Your businesses will be much less likely to thrive.
Then there are other ways. During the Ottoman Empire, in Greece and in Yugoslavia, every family had to send their eldest son (I think it was the eldest - I have to look it up) to join the Islamic army. There they were converted to Islam. Many Greek mothers used to maim their own son to prevent their son from being converted. (ask me - I`ll give references). The deep and abiding hatred for Muslims in Yugoslavia did not happen in a vacuum.
Ther are many other ways, too. Maybe we can go over those later.
But one thing I can tell you. You are following a very bad man. You don`t have to. Just be yourself. And be good to others.
[#685 by krishna_abcd on July 15, 2007 11:57am PT
{``.A case in point - Malayasia.
For centuries, it was a Hindu/Buddhist country with gentle and nonviolent practices. THEN Islam came in. Today death threats for apostasy, mob lynching etc. are commonplace in Malayasia. ...``}
O Enlightened One!
Please tell us when the armies of the Muslims conquered Malaysia and Indonesia and whether these invaders were Ottoman Turks or Indian Mughals - maybe they were Tartars who came from Crimea or the Muslims who came from Al Andalus. So much for your constant crap about forcible conversion of Hindus, Buddhists, and others. ]
Let me enlighten you.
You are trying to change the issue. My point was not that ``Islam is bad for a society IF that society was conquered/converted``. My point was that ``Islam is ALWAYS bad for a society, PERIOD``.
Do you get the difference? I`m sure you do.
But since you brought up a new point, let me educate you about this one too.
About the forcible conversion issue. As I have said in many posts before, in any Muslim-ruled land, the conversions take place due to gradual and inexorable pressure exerted upon the non-Mulsim population.
Islam has many instruments directed to this very end.
One is economic pressure - in the for of grossly unequal taxation. Poor peasants succumb more easily than the rest. For them, it is the difference between starvation, jail, flogging, or conversion and immediate relief. (ask me, I`ll give examples). Also, non-Muslims are systematically discriminated against in government and related jobs (Ask me, I`ll give examples). Many people convert just to make their life easier.
Second, there is the constant stigma and ostracization by the Islamic society of the non-Mulsims. The method to accomplish this is listed out in great detail in your manual. If you are a non-Mulsim, your women will never be as safe as the Muslims. Your businesses will be much less likely to thrive.
Then there are other ways. During the Ottoman Empire, in Greece and in Yugoslavia, every family had to send their eldest son (I think it was the eldest - I have to look it up) to join the Islamic army. There they were converted to Islam. Many Greek mothers used to maim their own son to prevent their son from being converted. (ask me - I`ll give references). The deep and abiding hatred for Muslims in Yugoslavia did not happen in a vacuum.
Ther are many other ways, too. Maybe we can go over those later.
But one thing I can tell you. You are following a very bad man. You don`t have to. Just be yourself. And be good to others.
#694 Posted by echoboom on July 15, 2007 2:48:39 pm
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#693 Posted by anil on July 15, 2007 2:45:58 pm
Re: # 676
Dost Sahib:
Since you have studied Koran, please write an essay on your study of this book? Knowing you, it would not be one-sided critique either.
Dost Sahib:
Since you have studied Koran, please write an essay on your study of this book? Knowing you, it would not be one-sided critique either.
#692 Posted by arjun2 on July 15, 2007 2:19:25 pm
#690 by philosopher on July 15, 2007 1:45pm PT
HAHa....feeling frustrated? I hope you`re in the land of the pure and not in the west...here, you can`t do it with a 9 year old and get away with saying pbuh guy did it too...
HAHa....feeling frustrated? I hope you`re in the land of the pure and not in the west...here, you can`t do it with a 9 year old and get away with saying pbuh guy did it too...
#691 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on July 15, 2007 1:46:23 pm
#685 by krishna_abcd on July 15, 2007 11:57am PT
{``.A case in point - Malayasia.
For centuries, it was a Hindu/Buddhist country with gentle and nonviolent practices. THEN Islam came in. Today death threats for apostasy, mob lynching etc. are commonplace in Malayasia. ...``}
O Enlightened One!
Please tell us when the armies of the Muslims conquered Malaysia and Indonesia and whether these invaders were Ottoman Turks or Indian Mughals - maybe they were Tartars who came from Crimea or the Muslims who came from Al Andalus. So much for your constant crap about forcible conversion of Hindus, Buddhists, and others.
{``.A case in point - Malayasia.
For centuries, it was a Hindu/Buddhist country with gentle and nonviolent practices. THEN Islam came in. Today death threats for apostasy, mob lynching etc. are commonplace in Malayasia. ...``}
O Enlightened One!
Please tell us when the armies of the Muslims conquered Malaysia and Indonesia and whether these invaders were Ottoman Turks or Indian Mughals - maybe they were Tartars who came from Crimea or the Muslims who came from Al Andalus. So much for your constant crap about forcible conversion of Hindus, Buddhists, and others.
#690 Posted by philosopher on July 15, 2007 1:45:13 pm
Re: # 689
yap...my hindu daughter in law is not here....the one that i got as a war booty.....i need some fresh maal......arjun you are already a ``kalank ka teeka`` on the ass of gao-maata from where she gives you fresh and hot goaber and give you the muttar to keep the energy flowing in your body...so it won`t be big prblem for you do it onnce more....why don`t you send your sister?????i promise......after islamic revolution I would screw your ass at least twice a day.....believe me.
yap...my hindu daughter in law is not here....the one that i got as a war booty.....i need some fresh maal......arjun you are already a ``kalank ka teeka`` on the ass of gao-maata from where she gives you fresh and hot goaber and give you the muttar to keep the energy flowing in your body...so it won`t be big prblem for you do it onnce more....why don`t you send your sister?????i promise......after islamic revolution I would screw your ass at least twice a day.....believe me.
#689 Posted by arjun2 on July 15, 2007 1:32:57 pm
#688 by philosopher on July 15, 2007 12:59pm PT
aww...what`s the matter...your daughter not around for you to do the ass thing on? feeling frustrated?
aww...what`s the matter...your daughter not around for you to do the ass thing on? feeling frustrated?
#688 Posted by philosopher on July 15, 2007 12:59:13 pm
Re: # 687
arjun the son of stampede crowd...
((((If muslims stopped flying planes into buildings, blowing up nightclubs, blowing up subways, blowing up trains and beheading people..))))
You forgot another point that is real reason behind this pain in your bloody Ass
(((( and stop screwing hindu`s dirty hairy ass....))))
arjun the son of stampede crowd...
((((If muslims stopped flying planes into buildings, blowing up nightclubs, blowing up subways, blowing up trains and beheading people..))))
You forgot another point that is real reason behind this pain in your bloody Ass
(((( and stop screwing hindu`s dirty hairy ass....))))
#687 Posted by arjun2 on July 15, 2007 12:48:04 pm
#682 by haideri on July 15, 2007 10:54am PT
If muslims stopped flying planes into buildings, blowing up nightclubs, blowing up subways, blowing up trains and beheading people..most people wouldn`t give mohammad`s behind about what they did in their own backyard....
get it?
If muslims stopped flying planes into buildings, blowing up nightclubs, blowing up subways, blowing up trains and beheading people..most people wouldn`t give mohammad`s behind about what they did in their own backyard....
get it?
#686 Posted by echoboom on July 15, 2007 12:08:45 pm
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#685 Posted by krishna_abcd on July 15, 2007 11:57:18 am
In addition to my previous posts...
All those who try to ascribe the ills of Muslim societies to social backwardness, are LYING.
A case in point - Malayasia.
For centuries, it was a Hindu/Buddhist country with gentle and nonviolent practices. THEN Islam came in. Today death threats for apostasy, mob lynching etc. are commonplace in Malayasia. The SAME society, reverted back towards barbarian practices with the introduction of Islam.
Muslims should stop making excuses and make some changes. Edit the Koran, and Muhammad`s life history, to begin with. Both set VERY bad examples.
All those who try to ascribe the ills of Muslim societies to social backwardness, are LYING.
A case in point - Malayasia.
For centuries, it was a Hindu/Buddhist country with gentle and nonviolent practices. THEN Islam came in. Today death threats for apostasy, mob lynching etc. are commonplace in Malayasia. The SAME society, reverted back towards barbarian practices with the introduction of Islam.
Muslims should stop making excuses and make some changes. Edit the Koran, and Muhammad`s life history, to begin with. Both set VERY bad examples.