A Letter To President Musharraf

#292 Posted by cliftonbridge,

Arrey yaar everyone has seen my ugly mug (as well as my *female* companions)on UP ... but noone has yours ... do you have the courage? :-)

Re:#289 Posted by cliftonbridge

(((However even if you call her a misguided person she has done all she can even at personal risk to help others less fortunate than herself))))

clifton sister

Agreed....but what about her so called struggle for those ''values'' which can never be accomodated in the fold of Islam at any cost. what if she starts 'rouna dhona' and doing 'dukh dard' dialogue baazi in support of Lesbalianism(courtsy..echo...you guys are unbelievable ..lol).will you have any sympathy with her?

clifton sister

The 'dhol ka poal' of this so called moral struggle and 'dukhy insianiaat' ke dialogue baazi can be exposed by simple psychoanalysis.

According to the glorious Quran even religious belief can be a sort of product of some hidden 'psychological'facters which don't have any 'legitimate' quest of religious truths in the strict sense. That is why Quran raks 'imaan' higher than 'belief' and even 'islam'. Imaan is that stage of consciousness where we start looking things with the divine light completly putting aside our own tendencies and inclinations. In that case,for a follower, God becomes the ultimate source of moralities no matter how those values look like to our 'oon' minds. This stage of 'imaan' makes us transcendent all our own psychological facters and inclinations and makes us ignore all kind of 'moral fraudism' disguised in 'dukh dard' poetry and sad and ghamzada faces. These so called 'values' are so attractive and have the potential of producing hell lot of ''oons'' who always try to win crediability by showing 'dukh dard' for insaniaat. I wish kabhi un logo kay such much ka dil mein dard ho to duniya ka boajh halqa ho.

On the issue of morality and religion....if you consider the example of hazrat ibrahim and ismaeel....you will have no problem to understand the whole issue....you see slaughtering one's own son is an immoral act but when divine commands to act otherwise the prophet ibrahim had no reluctance to follow the commandment. It shows the highest level of God-consciousness' and in the end you see the son was not slaughter...it shows that what we consider moral and immoral independent of religion can be quite misleading and in fact an illusion. so always keep divine commandement in mind.

zee are you telling me you are a grupmy old granpappy because you have to put up with the l of u. spinsters because your face looks like the ass end of a rhino?

You have my sympathy. Faces cant be changed but you could work on your inner beauty and let it shine through :)

... i.e. 'labias of ugly spinsters ...'!!! :-)

#288 Posted by cliftonbridge,

err ... yes ... all of those PLUS 'labias' ... :)

philospoher bhai,

its quite o.k for people to disagree , i respect your contention that all morality should come from religion. However even if you call her a misguided person she has done all she can even at personal risk to help others less fortunate than herself.
I dont think she deserves to be dragged through mud and oggled at. Although its clear that any woman who defies the cultural stereotype will ofcourse be regarded with hostility and ...strangely ....a weird almost lustful hatred.

I wouldnt know from personal experiance , - but you can tell me all about mirrors, ass ends of rhinos and bitter grumpy old men. I think there is an obvious connection.

#280 Posted by cliftonbridge

cliften ji

with all due respect.....whatever the 'moral' status of asma's 'struggle'' one thing is clear that ,as muslims, we can never accept such struggle which is not based on islam. Islam categorically asserts that moralities have absolutly no significance without 'imaan' i.e. God-consciouness. the jargons these liberaloon carry are,no doubt, attractive. The glourious Quran says that 'falsehood is unable to stand on itself therefore it always carries an element of truth in it.

I have absolutly no sympathy with the people who pretend to be moral without having imaan,in fact, all their struggle carries the hidden agenda of destroying the islamic values by jargons disguised in ''dukh dard' dialogue baazi.

This kind of thinking is the product of ethical interpretation of religion and because of a fallacy that religion is a moral philosophy,what i have repeated here so many times.

This ''tarka values' group pick and chose whatever they want and appologist and pseudo intellectual(dime a dozen on chowk) join the bandwagon.

If youn claim to be muslim,you just cannot admire the person who openly criticises islamic values and system.

Does her struggle validates her BS philosophy?you can not have moral philosophy without certain philosophical basis and the philosophical basis of the value system she follows is oclearly unislamic.you cannot have it both ways...choose your pick.

#280 Posted by cliftonbridge,

lOOKS LIKE YOU'RE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE ASS END OF RHINOS ... IS IT THE MIRROR EVERYDAY?

Oops sorry for the caps lock ... :)

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Chowk Staff, you threw the baby out with the bath water !!!


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The civilized way of doing it would have been to have a parallel run with a folder in the site named www.chowk.com/beta or something like that, and let people evaluate it before bringing it live ... but no ... chowk-staff are dictators as usual ... this is the gift they hand out on their lousy 10th anniversary of spreading hatred and ridicule ... Thanks !!!

#266 Posted by tahmed32

... but at least she stick her neck out for the oppressed women from poor families, which is more than can be said for any hadood-loving mullah.

No. She's all for married women and young girls eloping with their lovers ... but nothing for the women subjected to spousal abuse ...

Must be a slow day in jihadistan if the topic of the day is does asma jehangir shave her arm pits should she be allowed to smoke and is she f*ckable.
No offence but while second class citizens flail and moan on FP like a bunch of elephants in labour, Asma Jehangir has been a true inspiration for courage, truth and justice.
BTW her detractors here are probably as pretty as the ass end of a rhino and def. twice as dense.

Re: # 256

Kia kush lagaiya hai..... that drag is pure pleasure....Asma Jehangir is great.