A Letter To President Musharraf

If our neighbors are macacas, then why is there a lower species of monkeys driving the bus that is called Pakistan?

Parvaiz Musharraf`s stupidity in this premature assault on the Lal Masjid and the ensuing massacre of numerous men, women, and children explains the lack of strategic or tactical thinking in Pakistan`s military and civilian leadership. This also helps explain why the Paki Army has NEVER won a war - even against an enemy who was practically beaten by its own lack of preparedness (1965 war).

Which stupid general would allow his forces to be trapped a thousand miles away while fighting a superior force and a rebellious local population?

Which stupid general would abandon his attacking troops in enemy-held territory and not provide them air cover while the enemy blasted them with full air superiority?

Which stupid leader would unleash his/her own armed forces against his/her own fellow-citizens in a prolonged war costing thousands of lives and years of patriotism?

The Paki Army has killed far more Bengalis, Pathans, Mohajirs, Baluchis, and even Sindhis than the Indian Army. It has now even started to kill fellow Punjabis.

Pakistan is often compared to Israel - both being born of religious motivation. How many Israelis or Jews has the IDF killed in its 60 year history?

# 139 Jahangir Bhai (you have been promoted now :))

{H. S. Suwar Wardy, Zina Owl Hack, Bezamir Bhutni, Goo Lame Isaac Kahn}

You have unmatched gift with words. Some of us are very envious :)

#144 Pardesi {``# 139 Jahangir Bhai (you have been promoted now :))
{H. S. Suwar Wardy, Zina Owl Hack, Bezamir Bhutni, Goo Lame Isaac Kahn}
You have unmatched gift with words. Some of us are very envious :) ``}

Pardesi Bhai,
Thank you for your compliment. No need for envy, my friend. It`s the least I can do to get even with these vampires who have sucked the life out of my poor Pakistan. What do they say? ``Khisiaani billi khamba nochay.`` :(

#140 Jahangir Bhai,

Do not know. Too lazy to google. I know that Iskandar Mirza provided the ``constitutional cover`` and brought in Ayub. and after a year or two, ``Field Marshall`` Ayub retired him.

I have not read the article because I take strong exception to addressing Butcher of Islamabad`` as ``President`` or ``General``. As he violated the constitution of Pakistan both designations of President and General stand annuled. Pakistanis should always keep this in mind.

On the other hand I see that the bloodbath perpetrated by this dictator has quite emboldened the atheists, ex-commies, syasee yateems and other enemies of God. So I suggest to them to just lay off this munafaqat and side with the dictator openly. From now on very existence of you depends on his guns, so why not.

#102 by tahmed32 on July 14, 2007 7:34am PT
{``...Precisely. Musharraf`s stock is high again (internally and externally) thanks to these stupid maulvis. ... Now the chief justice`s job of restoring the rule of law in Pakistan has taken back seat to the shenanigans of the mullahs. ``}

Janaab Mohtaram Hazmat Tauheed Sahib Qibla,

I beg to differ with your esteemed analysis. Au contraire, mon frere. I think that Musharraf may gain some temporary kudos from fickle ``elitist, liberal democrats,`` for massacring the fundos by the hundreds. He will, however, lose the support of many Pakistanis - like myself and other Urdu-speaking Mohajirs and compassionate people who, despite their politics, abhor the wanton loss of life and display of arrogance and cruelty by this dictator. Many of us who are forced to be identified as Mohajirs, thanks to the necessity of survival, are also Pakistanis, Muslims, and above all human beings. Whether it is the killing of Sikhs and Hindus, the killing of Bengalis and Mohajirs, the bombings of Baluch or Pathans, and now the senseless murder of many Punjabis and more Pathans, or the shamless denial of justice for ``stranded`` so-called Biharis, we Mohajirs are always suckers for the poor, the underprivileged, and the weak. Even though Mushy may be from Delhi, he will rapidly lose the support of Mohajirs - despite his success in halting the massacres of Mohajirs in Karachi at the hands of the Rangers. While we will never accept Bezamir or Besharif, we may now see the Great Khan or Fazloo in better light, while most of us hold our noses. Thank you for listening. :)

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Re: # 141 by hamidm2 on July 14, 2007 1:33pm PT

{.... masadi will return to the us to drive a cab in ny city after being kicked out of government college ....} why do you wish this on masadi?

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re. malik99 #65

First, a disclaimer: None of the following comments are to be supportive of the army operation. I`m very much on the same page as the author on the question of where to assign blame and responsibility for the `necessary` massacre.

``Since alcohol and prostitution are against the current laws, arent those who engage in alcohol and prostitution just as guilty of taking law in their own hands as those who tried to stop them?``

Not really. There`s a clear difference. Whatever the morality relating to prostitution and alcohol usage/sale, these are relatively victimless crimes. The only victims, if you must, are those bringing the ``victimization`` upon themselves, or those for whom they are responsible, for which there does exist legal recouse. You cannot say the same for vcitims of kidnapping, looting and death threats.

If the lal masjid custodians and their militant following really wanted to rid society of its evils, why not kidnap a few high ranking income tax officers, loan-defaulting politiicans and the like, known to benefit immensely at the expense of the common man? No, they targets in all cases were those engaging in victimless, plesureable ``crimes``; exhibiting their essentially joyless mentality. Before someone now comes forward and says that the existence of some vices shouldn`t prevent one from protesting against others, let me point out that, even by Islamic standards, the ``other`` vices in this case were the much larger, more harmful ones. It is little wonder that moderates feel uneasy about the lal masjid brand of militancy... Under the pretense of a war against injustice and inquality, it`s possible that all they really want is a dour, joyless society mirroring their own existence.

`` Private citizens who shame government into enacting its own laws should be commended, not bombed. In US, when the government failed to protect borders, citizens took over that responsibility a la Minute Men in Arizona. And they enjoy much admiration. NO one will bomb them for sure.

Again, apples and orages. A vast majoirty of Arizona (and Texas) residents opposed the illegal entry of Mexicans into their states. No prized for guessing why. In taking the law into their own hands in that case, they were not only serving to uphold the law, but acting in accordance with the pulse of the people. You also can`t compare this with the Lal Masjid/Jamia Hafsa actions because: (1) This involved foreigners who`d, if let into the country, end up taking American jobs (or deflating their money-value) and (2) the actions of the Minute Men were essentially deterrent, and non-violent.

A more valid comparison would be between the LM/JH militants and abortion bombers in anti-abortion states (or, to be fair, those issuing threats against abortion clinics). (In fact, even that comparison might not be correct because abortion is viewed, and arguably s murder itself. In any event, no-one but the most extreme of conservatives would commend such bombings because the bombers believed they were simply helping enforce the law!

re. #120 philospher:

Not many will agree with your contention that an ideological persuation precludes ethics, or an independent sort of ethical approach anyway.

But, yes, some ideologies discourage this indpendent ethical sensitivity more than others.

re. masadi #121
``The CIA outpost in Pakistani media, i.e. GEO was adding fuel to the fire .. ``

Yesterday this CIA outpost was airing statements of burqah-covered Jamia Hafsa students professing their love for their dear shaheed brother and for their cause, saying that neither they nor anyone was held back in the premises by the militants under duress.

I guess someone`s gonna get a pink slip at GEO huh? ;-)

Re: # 153

PM

((((Not many will agree with your contention that an ideological persuation precludes ethics))))

pm......will you please enlighten me with your definition of ``ideology``???
And will you please name those ``ideologies`` here which are ``dependent`` on ethical system rather than some abstract philosophical basis.

Thanx.

Philosopher:
Yes, I guess it comes down to a matter of definition. I, personally would like to think that I subscribe to an ideology characterized by the oneness, ultimately, and the sameness, fundamentally of all humans, and that such can only be `seen` when one engages in a jihad to find the truth.

I think that there is room for ethics here.

I did not suggest that ideologies ``here`` are `dependent` on ethical systems. I`m sure you`re aware that there are other relations between the two entities apart from (in)dependence.

Re: # 155

PM

((((Philosopher:
Yes, I guess it comes down to a matter of definition. I, personally would like to think that I subscribe to an ideology characterized by the oneness, ultimately, and the sameness, fundamentally of all humans, and that such can only be `seen` when one engages in a jihad to find the truth.))))


MY REPONSE...;

Agreed...you are right on the spot....that`s what an ideology claims by any definition that it encompasses the ``oneness`` and the `sameness` for all humans. That is what makes it ideology, for ideology is always synthetic and it always carries a `theory of truth` to justify its orientation and validity. An ideology can never be purely `analytical`.so far we agree with each other.

PM said..;

(((I think that there is room for ethics here))))

Did i deny that??? i have never said that an ideology is without any ethical syastem, how can it satisfy the definition of ideology without having an ethical system,All i have said is that,this ethical system is always based on its philosophical basis.(does anybodey deny that? please let me know if anyone does).


PM said...;


(((
I did not suggest that ideologies ``here`` are `dependent` on ethical systems. I`m sure you`re aware that there are other relations between the two entities apart from (in)dependence))))

No doubt there are other relations between two entities but can do you think that these two entities have different relation absolutly idependent of the philosophical basis that ideology devolops itself on???


I have quoted three quotations from your interacts. Regardless of my analysis,do you think these three propositions that you have asserted are consistent with each other?if yes, how.

Anybody can join the debate.

Salim #148 The impact to date of lal masjid on Musharraf`s standing (internal and external) is I think obvious from the reaction - there have been no mass demonstrations (except by maulvis) to protest, and (from interviews etc.) most people, while horrified by the killings, think that lal masjid maulvis left him no choice. And that has given a setback to efforts to get Musharraf to step down as dictator.

This setback will probably prove temporary, and in that sense I agree with you.

Here is an interview of people in the street on the lal masjid issue - and while this was taken in karachi, it could have been anywhere in Pakistan. And I think the assessment of these people is by and large very reasonable, and certainly much more reasonable than the posturing and one-sided arguments one hears too often on chowk.

dhobia ka mushy, na allah ka na amrika ka...

expect a few more lal masjids in the tribal areas...and a few more hellfires..

Musharraf has failed to contain Al Qaeda: US

LAHORE: President Pervez Musharraf has failed to contain Al Qaeda and must regain control over areas bordering Afghanistan, said Stephen Hadley, President George Bush’s national security adviser.

Answering questions in an interview with Bloomberg Television’s ‘Political Capital with Al Hunt’, Hadley said Musharraf’s strategy of giving tribal leaders more autonomy “has not worked the way it should have”.

The US is working with the Pakistani government to thwart the latest threats, Hadley said, adding that the Musharraf government is “beginning to take some moves that will reassert control in those areas”.