Does Islam, in fact, Encourage Paedophilia?

If there is a guy flogging himself like a crazy on the road (or otherwise making an ass of himself), and if there is a crowd of bystanders cheering and jeering, would you get mad at the crowd, Sir?

Guruji our problems are too well known to be of any interest to anyone. They are boring, timeless, and there are no new developments (like the Lal Masjid thingy).

Guruji do you honestly believe that it is possible to go thru a million links (OK, even a thousand!). If it's not on first few pages, it's not there practically.

Anyway, the onus is on you, isn't it?

#197 I found a million links on bride burnings in India, and you come back after 5 minutes and say they are all useless. Try harder, sir.

#194 subhashjoshi: Perhaps you could do some research on some Indian problem (dowry burnings, female infanticide, caste system, superstitions masquerading as religion, communal problems and so forth) and write an article on them the way naqshbandi has written this article. I wont then run with it and start using those ills as proof that hinduism is inherently evil though, like some of your countrymen have been doing here. My interests are more modest - the problems we have in our own Pakistani community.

I did but all those links are useless. They say an article in NYT had some such figure but that's all.

When you find the link please post it. I will be very interested.

Yes the Indians have lots of problems, but somehow Pakistani problems are more newsworthy. You are living in more interesting times. Hence the focus.



Pakistanis refer to Modi at the drop of a hat. What about minorities in Pakistan, especially Hindus?

ajeya: as for the prophet - I believe that he had a spiritual experience in the cave, and he relayed it honestly (and this is the key, and I'll come back to it in a minute) to his followers. He thus fulfilled his role as messenger, which is all that is expected from him. He is not considered to be an angel or a divine being who must be perfect in every way - that is too much to expect from any human being, and it takes away nothing from the fact that he played his role of messenger quite faithfully.

His honesty: The message that he relayed (as written down in the Quran) clearly limits his role to that of a messenger. It explicitly denies him any role in implementation. If he was not honest, there is every reason to believe that he would have left these parts out.

Indians on chowk merely take the cue from christian priests in the middle ages who sought to demonize the prophet. The fact is that in the Bible itself you will find that prophets are far from perfect. And priests (and Indians taking the cue from them) are hardly free from pedophiliacs in their midst, I may add.

I googled "India bride burnings" and got over a million links. You may wish to check them out. You can also do searches on WP, NYT and there are plenty of references to social problems in India.

On honor killings, of course we have primtive practices in Pakistan too. That is not my point. My point is: Pakistanis on chowk focus on their problems and argue about it, and that is not the case with Indians.

(I got interrupted from by important chowk duties by a phone call. sorry for the delay in getting back).

India is far from a "la-la land". We know that. From morning till evening we live in perpetual fear of crime and lawlessness. You write an article about that and I will support you 100%.

But the topic at hand is very much different.

#183 Posted by tahmed32

[ajeya: no circular logic here.]

Of course there is - the koran validating the "prophet", and the "prophet" validating the Karan as having been received from a winged creature.

[in any case, come talk to me about problems with muslims]

Stop trying to create a diversion. We are not discussing problems with muslims. We are discussing problems with your prophet, and therefore the basis of your "religion".

Ok pakis - what's the final verdict? Is Mohamand just another bedouin whose life and actions are to be forgotten... or a sinless noble prophet worthy of worship and emulation?...

And BTW do you have any data for the honour killings in Pakistan?

Forget that, what about the population growth (???) of religious minorities in Pakistan?

subhash: I remember a front page article in the wp perhaps two years ago on dowry burnings in India. Let me check and I shall see what I find...

Guruji kaun sa Washington Post, kaun sa NY Times. Koi link -shink to hoga?

And why do you suppose I am going to deny this? When did I say we are living in a la-la land?

Now lets have some respectable link to that figure.

#187 Washington Post. NY Times.

Dont be in denial. Be brave and face the fact that India has more trash going on than perhaps any country in the world. Maybe you people are so overwhelmed that you have given up and so spend your time fixing problems of other people. Maybe you live in la la land and think all is really OK in India. Who knows.

TAhmed saheb

Could you please quote the source for "ten of thousands" of brides being burned by Hindus?

Really interested to know about that.