Asif Naqshbandi July 19, 2007
#113 Posted by HP on July 23, 2007 11:45:50 pm
In Sindh the word “Tit” has two meanings. With English gaining popularity, there is a third one too but we will ignore that.
So in Sindhi
Tit = passing gas or fart
Tit = bragging, lying
The Pir of Ranipur was a big wadera in Sindh. He was a big fat man and had two habits; one was passing gas or rather passing gas bombs and the other was lying about his friendship with President Ayub, Gen. Yahya and ZAB.
Whenever he lied his servants would say, “sain tit hanees” and whenever he passed gas; his servant would say sain wadi tit hanees, wah sain wha toon jairi tit tay Bhutto sain kadhain bhi kona hanees.
See the posts below? I don’t know which Tit is that.
#114 Posted by PM on July 24, 2007 12:09:49 am
THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING!
A summary of the all-important questions being asked on this board:
"Does Islam, in fact, encourage paedophilia?"
"Did Muhammed consummate his marriage with Ayesha when she was what would be considered 'underaged' today?"
"What is an appropriate age for sex -- between minors and with minors?"
"Is there an inherent power disparity between a 55-year-old and a 13 year-old?"
One question not asked, that I think should be asked is:
Is there any evidence at all that Ayesha's emotional or intellectual health was stunted by her marriage at an early age? Is there, in fact, any evidence to the contrary?
...otherwise, all the mumbo-jumbo about enlightened morality, sexual "maturity", power-imbalances and the rest is just so much of inherited dogma masquerading as Reason.
A summary of the all-important questions being asked on this board:
"Does Islam, in fact, encourage paedophilia?"
"Did Muhammed consummate his marriage with Ayesha when she was what would be considered 'underaged' today?"
"What is an appropriate age for sex -- between minors and with minors?"
"Is there an inherent power disparity between a 55-year-old and a 13 year-old?"
One question not asked, that I think should be asked is:
Is there any evidence at all that Ayesha's emotional or intellectual health was stunted by her marriage at an early age? Is there, in fact, any evidence to the contrary?
...otherwise, all the mumbo-jumbo about enlightened morality, sexual "maturity", power-imbalances and the rest is just so much of inherited dogma masquerading as Reason.
#115 Posted by ajeya on July 24, 2007 12:28:09 am
#114 Posted by PM
[One question not asked, that I think should be asked is:
Is there any evidence at all that Ayesha's emotional or intellectual health was stunted by her marriage at an early age? Is there, in fact, any evidence to the contrary?
...otherwise, all the mumbo-jumbo about enlightened morality, sexual "maturity", power-imbalances and the rest is just so much of inherited dogma masquerading as Reason.]
A few months ago a man was arrested by the police because the neighbors complained that he used to engage in sex with his pet animals (dogs, horses etc.).
He appealed to the judge with the argument that his sexual acts caused no emotional or physical harm to the animals. So why was he was being accused of doing anything wrong?
The judge was non-Muslim, so he didn't get the logic.
[One question not asked, that I think should be asked is:
Is there any evidence at all that Ayesha's emotional or intellectual health was stunted by her marriage at an early age? Is there, in fact, any evidence to the contrary?
...otherwise, all the mumbo-jumbo about enlightened morality, sexual "maturity", power-imbalances and the rest is just so much of inherited dogma masquerading as Reason.]
A few months ago a man was arrested by the police because the neighbors complained that he used to engage in sex with his pet animals (dogs, horses etc.).
He appealed to the judge with the argument that his sexual acts caused no emotional or physical harm to the animals. So why was he was being accused of doing anything wrong?
The judge was non-Muslim, so he didn't get the logic.
#116 Posted by ajeya on July 24, 2007 12:42:25 am
#113 Posted by HP
[See the posts below? I don’t know which Tit is that.]
You wouldn't. Because you are not very bright.
[See the posts below? I don’t know which Tit is that.]
You wouldn't. Because you are not very bright.
#117 Posted by hamzaad on July 24, 2007 3:03:23 am
Re: # 114
PM,
Your miskeen personality won't even let you ask the right question!
Here is a question: The creator of the planets and universal laws commissioned a man to recite Arabic for posterity. If indeed this man, at the age of 53, enagaged in kissing/fondling, say, a 19 year old girl, should we hold his ways of doing other things as exemplary?
PS1. The Arabic recital and its contents are totally immune from any kind of judgement that we may pass on this fella.
PS2. There is a hadeeth through Ayesha that she used to scratch off dry semen from Mohammad's clothes by her nails. And Mohammad would go to the mosque wearing those clothes. Notwithstanding the circumstance through which semen flew about in Ayesha hujra, a 53 year old man being serviced by at most a 19 year old.. we have to resolve this for the all the 19 year old girls who are saying no to 53 year old good men..
PM,
Your miskeen personality won't even let you ask the right question!
Here is a question: The creator of the planets and universal laws commissioned a man to recite Arabic for posterity. If indeed this man, at the age of 53, enagaged in kissing/fondling, say, a 19 year old girl, should we hold his ways of doing other things as exemplary?
PS1. The Arabic recital and its contents are totally immune from any kind of judgement that we may pass on this fella.
PS2. There is a hadeeth through Ayesha that she used to scratch off dry semen from Mohammad's clothes by her nails. And Mohammad would go to the mosque wearing those clothes. Notwithstanding the circumstance through which semen flew about in Ayesha hujra, a 53 year old man being serviced by at most a 19 year old.. we have to resolve this for the all the 19 year old girls who are saying no to 53 year old good men..
#118 Posted by tahmed32 on July 24, 2007 4:01:49 am
hmmmm...naqshbandi puts out a piece of garbage, and dung beetles from India are happily jumping around in it. :-)
#119 Posted by masanamuthu on July 24, 2007 4:29:19 am
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hmmmm...naqshbandi puts out a piece of garbage, and dung beetles from India are happily jumping around in it. :-)
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The writer was talking about this
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. The reason for this is that the Beloved Prophet married Sayyida Aisha when she was 9. Indeed, most of the sources claim that the nikah took place when she was 6 and that it was consummated when Bibi Aisha was 9. This is the whole basis of the non-Muslims attacks on Islam allowing paedophilia. Muslims can either be honest and admit that this is what all our fiqh books say or they can claim that the traditional reports are wrong (which some modernists have tried to do but not very convincingly as Shaykh Haddad has shown.)
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So do you think Mohammad's life story is full of garbage..
hmmmm...naqshbandi puts out a piece of garbage, and dung beetles from India are happily jumping around in it. :-)
*******
The writer was talking about this
*******
. The reason for this is that the Beloved Prophet married Sayyida Aisha when she was 9. Indeed, most of the sources claim that the nikah took place when she was 6 and that it was consummated when Bibi Aisha was 9. This is the whole basis of the non-Muslims attacks on Islam allowing paedophilia. Muslims can either be honest and admit that this is what all our fiqh books say or they can claim that the traditional reports are wrong (which some modernists have tried to do but not very convincingly as Shaykh Haddad has shown.)
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So do you think Mohammad's life story is full of garbage..
#120 Posted by Folio on July 24, 2007 4:34:42 am
Re: # 119
Muthu,
That's what happens when dirty fellows start acting like judges!
Muthu,
That's what happens when dirty fellows start acting like judges!
#121 Posted by arjun2 on July 24, 2007 4:35:30 am
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#122 Posted by tahmed32 on July 24, 2007 4:39:52 am
#119 Given that Indians have even more backward customs today (including marriages of children to old men), given that Indians have far more stupid, superstitious ways (bathing gods in milk, allowing cows to roam on streets and create a mess on the roads, and so on) than perhaps any people on earth today other than some remote jungle tribes, why do they act so shocked that 14 centuries ago (when societies were far more primitive than today) a man married an underage girl? That is what I mean.
#123 Posted by Folio on July 24, 2007 4:44:18 am
Excepts some sundry arabs who come to Hyd to get youngish brides, nobody - as far as I know - practice this peadophilia.
Lets not act like some dirty fellows here and brush all Muslims and Pakistanis as peadophiles.
Lets not act like some dirty fellows here and brush all Muslims and Pakistanis as peadophiles.
#124 Posted by arjun2 on July 24, 2007 4:44:27 am
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#126 Posted by harish_hyd on July 24, 2007 4:46:59 am
#122 by tahmed32
Are you saying in Pakistan, such things do not happen? Here's something top burst your bubble, and no this is not from India.
4-yr-old Pakistani girl marries 45-yr-old
As for bathing gods in milk and cows roaming streets, does that pose a danger to someone's life or emotional wellbeing?
Are you saying in Pakistan, such things do not happen? Here's something top burst your bubble, and no this is not from India.
4-yr-old Pakistani girl marries 45-yr-old
As for bathing gods in milk and cows roaming streets, does that pose a danger to someone's life or emotional wellbeing?
#127 Posted by tahmed32 on July 24, 2007 4:49:01 am
#123 Folio: Sure. India is the only country in the world where modern technology has been perverted to match your primitive mindsets in the killing of millions of fetuses. India is the only country in the world where tens of thousands of brides are burnt by greedy husbands searching for more dowry. As for weddings - there are more stupid customs (women getting married to trees and dogs) reported from India in the world's press than any other country.
Just picking up a few supposedly US slang words like arjun does and acting high and mighty does not fool anyone except yourselves.
Just picking up a few supposedly US slang words like arjun does and acting high and mighty does not fool anyone except yourselves.
#128 Posted by tahmed32 on July 24, 2007 4:51:11 am
#126 Pakistanis spend all their time on chowk cussing each other out on our domestic issues. They dont pretend there are no issues in Pakistan and spend their time insulting other communities.
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